Re: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
On Friday 01 Apr 2005 18:46 pm, Dave Watts wrote: generally works well, it is directly supported by the OS vendor, it is scriptable, it includes several application server technologies, and so on. Sounds like Apache... :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201327 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
generally works well, it is directly supported by the OS vendor, it is scriptable, it includes several application server technologies, and so on. Sounds like Apache... :-) Apache has a scripting API? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201330 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Web applications are written in high-level languages such as Java, Perl, C# and so on and Apache has several modules that integrate them with the server. In many cases the modules expose the Apache API so entire Apache modules can be written in those languages. (From http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Apache-Overview-HOWTO.html#ss2.6) The 1.3 API in brief: http://httpd.apache.org/dev/apidoc/ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 7:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? generally works well, it is directly supported by the OS vendor, it is scriptable, it includes several application server technologies, and so on. Sounds like Apache... :-) Apache has a scripting API? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201335 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Web applications are written in high-level languages such as Java, Perl, C# and so on and Apache has several modules that integrate them with the server. In many cases the modules expose the Apache API so entire Apache modules can be written in those languages. That's not what I meant at all. I'm not talking about writing web applications, but rather being able to script the web server's own operation. For example, with IIS you can write a command-line script to create virtual directories, or virtual web servers, or do practically anything else you can do through the management GUI. IIS has a scripting API. If I recall correctly, Apache has a C API. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201336 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Ah, I see. It would be straightforward enough to do all of that in any given language by writing to the Apache conf files. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 8:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Web applications are written in high-level languages such as Java, Perl, C# and so on and Apache has several modules that integrate them with the server. In many cases the modules expose the Apache API so entire Apache modules can be written in those languages. That's not what I meant at all. I'm not talking about writing web applications, but rather being able to script the web server's own operation. For example, with IIS you can write a command-line script to create virtual directories, or virtual web servers, or do practically anything else you can do through the management GUI. IIS has a scripting API. If I recall correctly, Apache has a C API. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201337 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Ah, I see. It would be straightforward enough to do all of that in any given language by writing to the Apache conf files. Well, yeah, except that you'd also have to kick the server to have it reread the conf files. You can do that with IIS 6 too, if you want to - the metabase is just a big XML file. But the point of a scripting API is that you don't have to do that work. You can just call the appropriate method and the work happens automatically. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201339 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Dave, Do you know of a good scripting API for creating sites and such in IIS? I'm trying to find a good reliable way of creating sites in IIS6 using CF. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Ah, I see. It would be straightforward enough to do all of that in any given language by writing to the Apache conf files. Well, yeah, except that you'd also have to kick the server to have it reread the conf files. You can do that with IIS 6 too, if you want to - the metabase is just a big XML file. But the point of a scripting API is that you don't have to do that work. You can just call the appropriate method and the work happens automatically. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201340 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Keyboard and mouse ;-) -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2005 14:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Dave, Do you know of a good scripting API for creating sites and such in IIS? I'm trying to find a good reliable way of creating sites in IIS6 using CF. John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Ah, I see. It would be straightforward enough to do all of that in any given language by writing to the Apache conf files. Well, yeah, except that you'd also have to kick the server to have it reread the conf files. You can do that with IIS 6 too, if you want to - the metabase is just a big XML file. But the point of a scripting API is that you don't have to do that work. You can just call the appropriate method and the work happens automatically. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201341 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
I used some vbscript and the Windows Scripting Host to create virtual
directories that web-enable our users' home directories.
I'm not sure if you can do this with CF, but it's worth a try. Search
for ADSI, IIS and some other related terms on Microsoft's dev site.
Here is my code to create the virtuals. It might give you some more
keywords on which to search:
PhysPath = d:\users\
Set oIIS = GetObject (IIS://localhost/W3SVC/1)
Set IISRoot = oIIS.GetObject(IIsWebVirtualDir, Root)
Set fso = CreateObject(Scripting.FileSystemObject)
Set rootFldr = fso.GetFolder(PhysPath)
Set subFldrs = rootFldr.SubFolders
Set oRE = New RegExp
oRE.IgnoreCase = True
oRE.Pattern = ^[a-z]{2}[0-9]{1,5}$
On Error Resume Next
For Each subFldr In subFldrs
If (oRE.Test(subFldr.Name) = True) Then
WScript.Echo subFldr.Path
Set oVirtDir = IISRoot.Create(IIsWebVirtualDir,
subFldr.Name)
oVirtDir.AccessRead = true
oVirtDir.AccessWrite = true
oVirtDir.EnableDirBrowsing = true
oVirtDir.AuthAnonymous = false
oVirtDir.AuthNTLM = true
oVirtDir.Path = subFldr.Path
oVirtDir.SetInfo
ovirtDir.AppCreate2(2)
oVirtDir.AppFriendlyName = subFldr.Name
oVirtDir.SetInfo
Set oVirtDir = Nothing
End If
Set oVirtDir = Nothing
Next
Thanks
M!ke
-Original Message-
From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 8:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Dave,
Do you know of a good scripting API for creating sites and such in IIS?
I'm trying to find a good reliable way of creating sites in IIS6 using
CF.
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web
Developer
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RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Here is the code to *delete* virtuals, just in case: ' Note: This script must be run numerous times until ' all virtuals have been removed. IIS can't keep ' up with the quick delete operations. Set oIIS = GetObject (IIS://localhost/W3SVC/1) Set IISRoot = oIIS.GetObject(IIsWebVirtualDir, Root) For Each ChildObject In IISRoot WScript.Echo ChildObject.Name Next For Each ChildObject In IISRoot IISRoot.Delete IISWebVirtualDir, / ChildObject.Name Next Set IISRoot = Nothing Set oIIS = Nothing ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201344 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Michael, Thanks for the useful info. I will definitely check this out. If anyone else has resources for this type of functionality, specifically creating new sites and retrieving site info (by name if possible) that would be great. Thanks! John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Here is the code to *delete* virtuals, just in case: ' Note: This script must be run numerous times until ' all virtuals have been removed. IIS can't keep ' up with the quick delete operations. Set oIIS = GetObject (IIS://localhost/W3SVC/1) Set IISRoot = oIIS.GetObject(IIsWebVirtualDir, Root) For Each ChildObject In IISRoot WScript.Echo ChildObject.Name Next For Each ChildObject In IISRoot IISRoot.Delete IISWebVirtualDir, / ChildObject.Name Next Set IISRoot = Nothing Set oIIS = Nothing ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201346 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Do you know of a good scripting API for creating sites and such in IIS? I'm trying to find a good reliable way of creating sites in IIS6 using CF. When you install IIS, by default, you get a bunch of WSH scripts that will do most of what you want. Look in your \Inetpub\Adminscripts folder. You might also check out http://www.iisfaq.com/. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201348 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
IIS is built-in and has a simple-to-use GUI. Other than that, I personally don't know why people even use it. Those are both pretty compelling reasons. Other reasons include that it generally works well, it is directly supported by the OS vendor, it is scriptable, it includes several application server technologies, and so on. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201227 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. -Original Message- From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 14:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Hi, Is ColdFusion MX 7 slow? I notice that House of Fusion site has been extremely slow since it moved to ColdFusion MX 7. Sometimes I cannot even connect to it. Is this ColdFusion MX 7 related problems House of Fusion site is having or totally different issues? Johnny ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200977 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Please tell me what you think of the site now. It should be at least a little faster as I moved all of the logging over to an async gateway. I have seen the CF engine slow down when the machine memory hits peak and after a cycle it moves back to full speed. I'm still investigating what app is causing this move. The HoF server is running on some older hardware (650 mhz, 640 meg ram) and is hosting a webserver, CF server, DB, 2 mail servers and an FTP server. Pound for pound, I'd say that the issue is NOT ColdFusion MX 7. I'm looking at an average page 'load' of less than 200 ms per page from home and work. If it takes more than 1 or 2 seconds to get a page than it has to be: 1. IIS 2. DNS 3. internet If you hit the site today and its still slow, let me know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, if you can do a ping to see what the connection looks like. One of my primary goals is to make sure that House of Fusion gets to people quickly and while I'm handling all of the issues that I can in code, there may well be network issues that I'm not seeing. Hi, Is ColdFusion MX 7 slow? I notice that House of Fusion site has been extremely slow since it moved to ColdFusion MX 7. Sometimes I cannot even connect to it. Is this ColdFusion MX 7 related problems House of Fusion site is having or totally different issues? Johnny ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200982 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Could be as the site should be faster than some people are seeing it. The issue might also be SQL as it wants every resource it can get its hands on and you need a tight reign on it. SQL might be pulling resources from IIS. No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200984 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
No, it isn't. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200992 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Wow, that's a lot of stuff running on that old box. For me, the site itself comes up quick. It appears it takes about 3 seconds or more to reach the site. I get ping times of about 65ms. Paging through the site right now is fairly speedy. -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Please tell me what you think of the site now. It should be at least a little faster as I moved all of the logging over to an async gateway. I have seen the CF engine slow down when the machine memory hits peak and after a cycle it moves back to full speed. I'm still investigating what app is causing this move. The HoF server is running on some older hardware (650 mhz, 640 meg ram) and is hosting a webserver, CF server, DB, 2 mail servers and an FTP server. Pound for pound, I'd say that the issue is NOT ColdFusion MX 7. I'm looking at an average page 'load' of less than 200 ms per page from home and work. If it takes more than 1 or 2 seconds to get a page than it has to be: 1. IIS 2. DNS 3. internet If you hit the site today and its still slow, let me know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, if you can do a ping to see what the connection looks like. One of my primary goals is to make sure that House of Fusion gets to people quickly and while I'm handling all of the issues that I can in code, there may well be network issues that I'm not seeing. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200994 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
I agree, it is a pretty good server. It is also in my opinion pretty easy to setup and configure. - Original Message - From: Connie DeCinko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:36 AM Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No, it isn't. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200997 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Hmmm...IIS may be crappy in other respects (though I personally don't think it is), but not regarding performance. It's fairly easy to demonstrate that IIS is as much as an order of magnitude (10 times) faster than Apache, for example, on equivalent hardware. Knowing this, the Apache developers have always dodged the performance question, saying their primary goal is correctness, not performance. Vince -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. -Original Message- From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 14:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Hi, Is ColdFusion MX 7 slow? I notice that House of Fusion site has been extremely slow since it moved to ColdFusion MX 7. Sometimes I cannot even connect to it. Is this ColdFusion MX 7 related problems House of Fusion site is having or totally different issues? Johnny ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200996 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
We argue about this continuously at work. I know for a fact that my site performs much better on Apache. I know this because I've had the same site running on the same server with both Apache and IIS and there is a noticeable difference. IIS is built-in and has a simple-to-use GUI. Other than that, I personally don't know why people even use it. HOF seems to come up fairly quickly for me though and the ping times I get are only 25-29 ms. By the way, if anyone has experience with BizTalk server and wants a job in Nashville, let me know! --Ferg -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No, it isn't. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:200998 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Yep, we found this. We are an MS house no messing: CF does run faster on Apache no arguments. If you run IIS in an Enterprise setup you will begin to suffer. I used to love IIS but over the years I have found it to be unreliable. Not to mention the Metabase -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 March 2005 16:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? We argue about this continuously at work. I know for a fact that my site performs much better on Apache. I know this because I've had the same site running on the same server with both Apache and IIS and there is a noticeable difference. IIS is built-in and has a simple-to-use GUI. Other than that, I personally don't know why people even use it. HOF seems to come up fairly quickly for me though and the ping times I get are only 25-29 ms. By the way, if anyone has experience with BizTalk server and wants a job in Nashville, let me know! --Ferg -Original Message- From: Connie DeCinko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:37 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No, it isn't. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201002 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
The reason I asked specifically about ColdFusion MX 7 is because either yesterday or the day before that (I can't remember), I could not connect to the site twice. It says it could not connect to JRUN. I didn't write down the message, but I believe it also gave me the JRUN version. After that the site was extremely slow. It is fast now. I should have posted the question yesterday while it was slow. I asked today because my company is planning to move to CFMX 7 and I want to make sure we won't run into this problem. Johnny Please tell me what you think of the site now. It should be at least a little faster as I moved all of the logging over to an async gateway. I have seen the CF engine slow down when the machine memory hits peak and after a cycle it moves back to full speed. I'm still investigating what app is causing this move. The HoF server is running on some older hardware (650 mhz, 640 meg ram) and is hosting a webserver, CF server, DB, 2 mail servers and an FTP server. Pound for pound, I'd say that the issue is NOT ColdFusion MX 7. I'm looking at an average page 'load' of less than 200 ms per page from home and work. If it takes more than 1 or 2 seconds to get a page than it has to be: 1. IIS 2. DNS 3. internet If you hit the site today and its still slow, let me know ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Also, if you can do a ping to see what the connection looks like. One of my primary goals is to make sure that House of Fusion gets to people quickly and while I'm handling all of the issues that I can in code, there may well be network issues that I'm not seeing. Hi, Is ColdFusion MX 7 slow? I notice that House of Fusion site has been extremely slow since it moved to ColdFusion MX 7. Sometimes I cannot even connect to it. Is this ColdFusion MX 7 related problems House of Fusion site is having or totally different issues? Johnny ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201005 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
No doubt IIS - it is quite possibly the crappiest Web Server there is. That's simply ridiculous. IIS is as good as any other web server running on Windows when it comes to performance - in fact, practically any web server is sufficient to use all the available bandwidth serving static files, which is all the web server really does when you get right down to it. Historically, the only real problem with IIS has been its insecurity, but (a) this could be fixed easily by proper configuration and (b) IIS 6 is pretty well-configured out of the box. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201007 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
Yep, we found this. We are an MS house no messing: CF does run faster on Apache no arguments. If you run IIS in an Enterprise setup you will begin to suffer. First, I haven't found this to be true on Windows. Second, if CF does run faster on one than another, is that because of the web server or because of CF? After all, the web server doesn't really have that much to do with how CF runs - with both IIS and Apache, CFMX is integrated with the web server using a module that sits at the front of the web serving process - in IIS, this is called an ISAPI filter. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201010 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
I think you could say that any web server is crappy if not properly configured! Just because you drive a race car does not mean it's tuned properly. -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Historically, the only real problem with IIS has been its insecurity, but (a) this could be fixed easily by proper configuration and (b) IIS 6 is pretty well-configured out of the box. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201011 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
I can't doubt that what you say is true. It makes perfect sense. However, I've tested it on my site several times. If I walk across the room right now and stop IIS and start Apache, I will see a positive impact on the performance of my CF site. I just can't do that because of my former-ms-employee network admin's absolute insistence on running only Windows and IIS. (With him in the boss's ear, I'm surprised I haven't been forced to rewrite everything in ASP.NET yet.) Furthermore, I have a very old intranet site that is all just static HTML that I'm about to rebuild in CF. The performance of that site, while hard to judge due to lower load and connections that are all internal, does not seem to be affected AT ALL. Given that, I've just always assumed that it was a CF and IIS issue. I can only report on my own concrete experiences. --Ferg -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow? Yep, we found this. We are an MS house no messing: CF does run faster on Apache no arguments. If you run IIS in an Enterprise setup you will begin to suffer. First, I haven't found this to be true on Windows. Second, if CF does run faster on one than another, is that because of the web server or because of CF? After all, the web server doesn't really have that much to do with how CF runs - with both IIS and Apache, CFMX is integrated with the web server using a module that sits at the front of the web serving process - in IIS, this is called an ISAPI filter. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201014 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion MX 7 slow?
I can't doubt that what you say is true. It makes perfect sense. However, I've tested it on my site several times. If I walk across the room right now and stop IIS and start Apache, I will see a positive impact on the performance of my CF site. I just can't do that because of my former-ms-employee network admin's absolute insistence on running only Windows and IIS. (With him in the boss's ear, I'm surprised I haven't been forced to rewrite everything in ASP.NET yet.) If you're running on Windows Server 2003, there's an important parameter that needs to be set: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_17277 Plus, there are a bunch of tunable parameters for IIS: http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_17277 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201019 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
