RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
if you want to see my rough solution. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm again Thanks to all who helped me! have a great weekend! -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Dan G. Switzer, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 5:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? Paul, It's impossible to overlay a layer over a multiple frames. In order to have something appear over multiple frames, you'd need to use an ActiveX control or some other external control that's not bound to the browser window. The one thing you can do-but it's a big pain, is to have you're main topics in frame 1 then have the actual layers pop-up in frame 2. It'll appear to expand frames, but really the pieces are in two completely different frames. There's a library here that will work with frames, but the library is really slow loading for a lot of options (at least it was last time I looked at it.) http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column51/ -Dan -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? here is the example i speak of. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm how would i put the sub menu in the frame set for the main page with the corporate Babel? also if i did that would the linked pages to that main frame set keep the sub menu intact? any advice would be Superb! thank you! -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? Hey Paul. I had some other problems as well with DHTML menus, and unfortunately, there are no workarounds. DHTML menus appear under IFRAMEs and SELECT boxes. Because you're loading two different pages, there is no workaround other than creating a layer in the other fram that you want the layer to appear in... Becauase in a normal framset, your framesets occur in the head of the page, not the body, I don't think you can put layers inside of the head tags successfully... Good luck... Hope you find a better answer =) -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
CSS elements cant overlap frame borders. -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
Hey Paul. I had some other problems as well with DHTML menus, and unfortunately, there are no workarounds. DHTML menus appear under IFRAMEs and SELECT boxes. Because you're loading two different pages, there is no workaround other than creating a layer in the other fram that you want the layer to appear in... Becauase in a normal framset, your framesets occur in the head of the page, not the body, I don't think you can put layers inside of the head tags successfully... Good luck... Hope you find a better answer =) -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
do you have any suggestions? i would hate to include this chunk of code on every page... that is very tiresome. some one must have an idea? -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? CSS elements cant overlap frame borders. -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
here is the example i speak of. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm how would i put the sub menu in the frame set for the main page with the corporate Babel? also if i did that would the linked pages to that main frame set keep the sub menu intact? any advice would be Superb! thank you! -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? Hey Paul. I had some other problems as well with DHTML menus, and unfortunately, there are no workarounds. DHTML menus appear under IFRAMEs and SELECT boxes. Because you're loading two different pages, there is no workaround other than creating a layer in the other fram that you want the layer to appear in... Becauase in a normal framset, your framesets occur in the head of the page, not the body, I don't think you can put layers inside of the head tags successfully... Good luck... Hope you find a better answer =) -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
Thanks Richard. the dhtml menu i was tweaking out began in FireWorks. then i tweaked the *.js file then all the code to get it to look right. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm do you have an example of a menu that spans frames? url??? thank you so much. this could be cool if i could get it to work right. -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: richard ten barge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? I don't knnow whbich DHTML menu you are using, but Hiermenus has an option for this, making it possible to show (sub) menu's in another frame... richard ten Barge 1MB At 11:08 5-4-2001 -0400, you wrote: ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax: 614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
I'm not sure what you might be looking for as a replacement, currently I'm using the Joust DHTML menu (http://www.ivanpeters.com/) which is freeware. Although it doesn't accomplish what you are looking for as far as the 'overlapping' it does allow you to specify that a menu item's description be 'wrapped' to accommodate text that extends beyond the width of your frame. It's quite flexible and I'm currently using it to create several dynamic menu systems based upon multiple queries. Hope this helps. Steven Semrau SRA International, Inc. Senior Member, Professional Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com: (703) 805-1095 DSN: (703) 655-1095 -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? do you have any suggestions? i would hate to include this chunk of code on every page... that is very tiresome. some one must have an idea? -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? CSS elements cant overlap frame borders. -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
Here's the problem: Your framset page looks like this: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" html head titleCF Enterprise Manager/title link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="styles/cfem.css" /head frameset cols="250px,*" border="0" frameborder="no" framespacing="0" frame name="left" src="left.cfm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" frame name="mainframe" src="runquery.cfm" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" /frameset noframes body /body /noframes Notice the body tag is only envoked when the browser doesn't support frames. Unfortunately, layers need to be inside the body tag... Too bad iframe is only supported by newer browsers... One technique I have seen is to hide and show the objects depending on the layer showing. Still a pain though. -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 11:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? here is the example i speak of. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm how would i put the sub menu in the frame set for the main page with the corporate Babel? also if i did that would the linked pages to that main frame set keep the sub menu intact? any advice would be Superb! thank you! -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -----Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? Hey Paul. I had some other problems as well with DHTML menus, and unfortunately, there are no workarounds. DHTML menus appear under IFRAMEs and SELECT boxes. Because you're loading two different pages, there is no workaround other than creating a layer in the other fram that you want the layer to appear in... Becauase in a normal framset, your framesets occur in the head of the page, not the body, I don't think you can put layers inside of the head tags successfully... Good luck... Hope you find a better answer =) -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
Paul, It's impossible to overlay a layer over a multiple frames. In order to have something appear over multiple frames, you'd need to use an ActiveX control or some other external control that's not bound to the browser window. The one thing you can do-but it's a big pain, is to have you're main topics in frame 1 then have the actual layers pop-up in frame 2. It'll appear to expand frames, but really the pieces are in two completely different frames. There's a library here that will work with frames, but the library is really slow loading for a lot of options (at least it was last time I looked at it.) http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column51/ -Dan -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? here is the example i speak of. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm how would i put the sub menu in the frame set for the main page with the corporate Babel? also if i did that would the linked pages to that main frame set keep the sub menu intact? any advice would be Superb! thank you! -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? Hey Paul. I had some other problems as well with DHTML menus, and unfortunately, there are no workarounds. DHTML menus appear under IFRAMEs and SELECT boxes. Because you're loading two different pages, there is no workaround other than creating a layer in the other fram that you want the layer to appear in... Becauase in a normal framset, your framesets occur in the head of the page, not the body, I don't think you can put layers inside of the head tags successfully... Good luck... Hope you find a better answer =) -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax:614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
an example of the popup object in IE 5.5 http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/objects/popup.asp - Original Message - From: "Paul Ihrig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? here is the example i speak of. http://www.columbus.nbbj.com/Dhtml/Default.htm how would i put the sub menu in the frame set for the main page with the corporate Babel? also if i did that would the linked pages to that main frame set keep the sub menu intact? any advice would be Superb! thank you! -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax: 614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 -Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? Hey Paul. I had some other problems as well with DHTML menus, and unfortunately, there are no workarounds. DHTML menus appear under IFRAMEs and SELECT boxes. Because you're loading two different pages, there is no workaround other than creating a layer in the other fram that you want the layer to appear in... Becauase in a normal framset, your framesets occur in the head of the page, not the body, I don't think you can put layers inside of the head tags successfully... Good luck... Hope you find a better answer =) -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 8:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax: 614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq: 47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset?
Thanks to all! especially Richard who turned me on to this site that does exactly what i needed! http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column18/ i feel some tight design coming on! this list is great! -paul -Original Message- From: Semrau, Steven L Mr SRA [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? I'm not sure what you might be looking for as a replacement, currently I'm using the Joust DHTML menu (http://www.ivanpeters.com/) which is freeware. Although it doesn't accomplish what you are looking for as far as the 'overlapping' it does allow you to specify that a menu item's description be 'wrapped' to accommodate text that extends beyond the width of your frame. It's quite flexible and I'm currently using it to create several dynamic menu systems based upon multiple queries. Hope this helps. Steven Semrau SRA International, Inc. Senior Member, Professional Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Com: (703) 805-1095 DSN: (703) 655-1095 -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 2:30 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? do you have any suggestions? i would hate to include this chunk of code on every page... that is very tiresome. some one must have an idea? -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax: 614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq:47658358 -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? CSS elements cant overlap frame borders. -Original Message- From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 4:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: DHTML Menu :: Spanning frameset? ok. i have a dhtml menu in my left frame set. is there a way that i can have the sub menus overlap the main frame or right frame? right now in the left frame nav, if i open a few sub menus they are partially hidden due to the next frameset. i would like the sub menu on top of all the frames? any ideas? please advise.. thank you -paul Web Developer, NBBJ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 241-3534 fax: 614 485-5534 Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 614 449-1681 icq:47658358 ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
