RE: Fatal windows crash
Could be the hard drive going??? -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Fatal windows crash I'm getting a BSOD on my system everytime I boot it up. After about a minute it crashes. Sometimes it says that winlogon.exe has a problem, sometimes not. The BSOD message is: STOP: c21a {Fatal Systems Error} The windows Logon Process system process terminated unexpectedly with a status of 0xc005 (0x 0x). The system has been shut down. Anyone have a clue as to what I can do. I'm really worried about this as I can't reinstall without losing a lot of data. Just how screwed am I? Thanks ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234097 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fatal windows crash
did ya try safe mode yet? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234098 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Fatal windows crash
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Fatal windows crash I'm getting a BSOD on my system everytime I boot it up. After about a minute it crashes. Sometimes it says that winlogon.exe has a problem, sometimes not. The BSOD message is: STOP: c21a {Fatal Systems Error} The windows Logon Process system process terminated unexpectedly with a status of 0xc005 (0x 0x). The system has been shut down. Anyone have a clue as to what I can do. I'm really worried about this as I can't reinstall without losing a lot of data. Just how screwed am I? Assuming XP the only BSOD that I've ever gotten are for hardware issues (bad drivers) or corrupt files (bad or degrading hard drives). Have you added any hardware recently? Updated any drivers? If not you might consider running a boot (Floppy-based) disk checker - I know that both IBM and Maxtor have tool available for download. There are also decent floppy-based RAM checkers that might be worth running through. If none of that bears fruit you might just have to bite the bullet and try a repair. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234106 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fatal windows crash
bummer...here we've created The Ultimate Boot Disk which was cobbled together I think from this site one of my biz partners made it). It's simply awesome when trying to sort out these sorts of nasty situations: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ HTH Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com - Original Message - From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: Re: Fatal windows crash Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware question). Someone said it might be the registry but I don't have any good registry repair tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into something, but what that something is is a question. Network in or out it still crashes. :( did ya try safe mode yet? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234108 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Fatal windows crash
-Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fatal windows crash Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware question). Someone Actually it doesn't at all - SafeMode definitely uses a reduced hardware profile. At the very least it uses the default Windows VGA driver instead of the card manufacturer's and non-accelerated graphics and sound. said it might be the registry but I don't have any good registry repair tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into something, but what that something is is a question. Network in or out it still crashes. You might try the Last Known Good configuration (which uses a copy of the registry made during the last good boot) but in my experience that never works. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234109 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Fatal windows crash
If it's WinXP, you could try a system restore. Often times I see an event in the restore list that I wasn't aware of, or forgot about, and that could be your culprit. Also, you could try removing services and/or startup items (in msconfig). Regardless of what others say, software does sometimes cause a BSOD. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fatal windows crash Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware question). Someone said it might be the registry but I don't have any good registry repair tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into something, but what that something is is a question. Network in or out it still crashes. :( did ya try safe mode yet? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234112 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Fatal windows crash
Munson, Jacob wrote: Regardless of what others say, software does sometimes cause a BSOD. Yes it does, often. And since the machine runs ok in safe mode, it is most likely a driver issue. I would go into the device manager and disable any network devices, video cards, sound cards, etc. Then start to enable them one-by-one (reboot in between) to narrow the problem down. Steve --- --- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234114 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Fatal windows crash
Another thing to look into is the motherboard. Motherboards are notorious for giving inconsistent errors. It might work once but not again in the same situation. If you're out of options, try switching it and see what happens. Baz -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Fatal windows crash If it's WinXP, you could try a system restore. Often times I see an event in the restore list that I wasn't aware of, or forgot about, and that could be your culprit. Also, you could try removing services and/or startup items (in msconfig). Regardless of what others say, software does sometimes cause a BSOD. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Fatal windows crash Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware question). Someone said it might be the registry but I don't have any good registry repair tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into something, but what that something is is a question. Network in or out it still crashes. :( did ya try safe mode yet? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:234121 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54