RE: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Che Vilnonis
Could be the hard drive going???

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I'm getting a BSOD on my system everytime I boot it up. After about a minute
it crashes. Sometimes it says that winlogon.exe has a problem, sometimes
not. The BSOD message is:
STOP: c21a {Fatal Systems Error}
The windows Logon Process system process terminated unexpectedly with a
status of 0xc005 (0x 0x).
The system has been shut down.

Anyone have a clue as to what I can do. I'm really worried about this as I
can't reinstall without losing a lot of data. Just how screwed am I?

Thanks



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Re: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson
did ya try safe mode yet?

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RE: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 2:55 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Fatal windows crash
 
 I'm getting a BSOD on my system everytime I boot it up. After about a
 minute it crashes. Sometimes it says that winlogon.exe has a problem,
 sometimes not. The BSOD message is:
 STOP: c21a {Fatal Systems Error}
 The windows Logon Process system process terminated unexpectedly with a
 status of 0xc005 (0x 0x).
 The system has been shut down.
 
 Anyone have a clue as to what I can do. I'm really worried about this as I
 can't reinstall without losing a lot of data. Just how screwed am I?

Assuming XP the only BSOD that I've ever gotten are for hardware issues (bad
drivers) or corrupt files (bad or degrading hard drives).

Have you added any hardware recently?  Updated any drivers?

If not you might consider running a boot (Floppy-based) disk checker - I
know that both IBM and Maxtor have tool available for download.  There are
also decent floppy-based RAM checkers that might be worth running through.

If none of that bears fruit you might just have to bite the bullet and try a
repair.

Jim Davis



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Re: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Bryan Stevenson
bummer...here we've created  The Ultimate Boot Disk which was cobbled 
together 
I think from this site one of my biz partners made it).  It's simply awesome 
when trying to sort out these sorts of nasty situations:

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

HTH

Cheers

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 Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware question). Someone
 said it might be the registry but I don't have any good registry repair
 tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into something, but
 what that something is is a question. Network in or out it still crashes. :(


 did ya try safe mode yet?

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com



 

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RE: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Jim Davis
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 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware question). Someone

Actually it doesn't at all - SafeMode definitely uses a reduced hardware
profile.  At the very least it uses the default Windows VGA driver instead
of the card manufacturer's and non-accelerated graphics and sound.

 said it might be the registry but I don't have any good registry repair
 tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into something,
 but
 what that something is is a question. Network in or out it still crashes.

You might try the Last Known Good configuration (which uses a copy of the
registry made during the last good boot) but in my experience that never
works.

Jim Davis


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RE: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Munson, Jacob
If it's WinXP, you could try a system restore.  Often times I see an
event in the restore list that I wasn't aware of, or forgot about, and
that could be your culprit.  Also, you could try removing services
and/or startup items (in msconfig).  Regardless of what others say,
software does sometimes cause a BSOD.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:08 PM
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 Subject: Re: Fatal windows crash
 
 Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware 
 question). Someone 
 said it might be the registry but I don't have any good 
 registry repair 
 tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into 
 something, but 
 what that something is is a question. Network in or out it 
 still crashes. :(
 
 
  did ya try safe mode yet?
 
  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  phone: 250.480.0642
  fax: 250.480.1264
  cell: 250.920.8830
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
  
 
 

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Re: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Steve Milburn
Munson, Jacob wrote:
 Regardless of what others say,
 software does sometimes cause a BSOD.
Yes it does, often.  And since the machine runs ok in safe mode, it is 
most likely a driver issue.  I would go into the device manager and 
disable any network devices, video cards, sound cards, etc.  Then start 
to enable them one-by-one (reboot in between) to narrow the problem down.

Steve
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RE: Fatal windows crash

2006-03-03 Thread Baz
Another thing to look into is the motherboard. Motherboards are notorious
for giving inconsistent errors. It might work once but not again in the same
situation. If you're out of options, try switching it and see what happens.

Baz


-Original Message-
From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:22 PM
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If it's WinXP, you could try a system restore.  Often times I see an
event in the restore list that I wasn't aware of, or forgot about, and
that could be your culprit.  Also, you could try removing services
and/or startup items (in msconfig).  Regardless of what others say,
software does sometimes cause a BSOD.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 1:08 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Fatal windows crash
 
 Yep and it doesn't crash (which discounts the hardware 
 question). Someone 
 said it might be the registry but I don't have any good 
 registry repair 
 tools. It's definitely linked to something with logging into 
 something, but 
 what that something is is a question. Network in or out it 
 still crashes. :(
 
 
  did ya try safe mode yet?
 
  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  phone: 250.480.0642
  fax: 250.480.1264
  cell: 250.920.8830
  e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
  
 
 



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