Re: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Try Dreamweaver, if you can walk them through using it, the wysiwyg editor is a lot more code friendly than M$ - Original Message - From: "Peter Theobald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
You might want to try First Page. It's a free html editor and decent. http://www.evrsoft.com/ - Original Message - From: "Peter Theobald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:09 AM Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
If you use Dreamweaver you can create template files that allow you to "lock" sections of the page that you don't want the cl-idiot-nt touching. J (alternately suggest re-building the whole site with a remote management system that hold editable content in a huge database and create a js pseudo html editor package - or go for Spectra - or really frighten them with the cost of something broadvision or vignette!) -Original Message- From: Bryan LaPlante [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:21 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Try Dreamweaver, if you can walk them through using it, the wysiwyg editor is a lot more code friendly than M$ - Original Message - From: "Peter Theobald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:09 AM Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
I never thought I'd suggest such a programme, but Dreamweaver might be what you're after. With the new version (4) you can make templates which have 'editable' and 'uneditable' regions, which allows you to lock off navigation and things that you don't want anyone to mess with. Also it includes ftp stuff aswell. It should be ideal for a situation like this, Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
If this is no good you could look at making th content dynamic and building a Remote Management System for the client to use to change the content. By using Java Script you can even allow the users to italisise, make bold, underline, etc.without requiring them to have any HTML knowledge. This just involves more work on your part initially -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd http://www.thoughtbubble.net -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Tel: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -Original Message- From: Katherine Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? I never thought I'd suggest such a programme, but Dreamweaver might be what you're after. With the new version (4) you can make templates which have 'editable' and 'uneditable' regions, which allows you to lock off navigation and things that you don't want anyone to mess with. Also it includes ftp stuff aswell. It should be ideal for a situation like this, Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
If you decide to write your own solution, you may consider forcing your client to use a IE browser. Then you can use the HTML editing features of the browser. It's very easy to code. Here's some DOCS from MSDN... http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/edit/default.asp The basic idea is this. You make a DIV editable. This DIV on course contains the text that you want your client to edit. You'll have to code up a submit button to move the innerHTML of the DIV to a hidden field. You'll also have a few issues with escaping characters, but it's pretty easy to clean that up. Hope that helps... /\/\ichael -Original Message- From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? If this is no good you could look at making th content dynamic and building a Remote Management System for the client to use to change the content. By using Java Script you can even allow the users to italisise, make bold, underline, etc.without requiring them to have any HTML knowledge. This just involves more work on your part initially -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd http://www.thoughtbubble.net -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Tel: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -Original Message- From: Katherine Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? I never thought I'd suggest such a programme, but Dreamweaver might be what you're after. With the new version (4) you can make templates which have 'editable' and 'uneditable' regions, which allows you to lock off navigation and things that you don't want anyone to mess with. Also it includes ftp stuff aswell. It should be ideal for a situation like this, Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
One thing that I've done that has REALLY cut down on mainenance is I've incorporated EZEdit into some of my internal, end-user administrative templates and stored the resultant HTML in a DB for retreival. That way, there is no access to the source CFM files and any modifications are taken care of using a WYSIWYG interface by the end user. They can even cut and paste from Word into it. It's also free. Not as robust as say ActiveEdit, but it serves my purposes just fine. One caveat though, I access it using a Cold Fusion mapping since it uses .htr files for some of the button functions. (.htr = no no via IIS) Jeff Garza Web Developer/Webmaster Spectrum Astro, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.spectrumastro.com -Original Message- From: Larry W. Virden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 8:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:31:42 +0100 From: James Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternately suggest re-building the whole site with a remote management system that hold editable content in a huge database Boy, this is something that I would love to see. However, on the sites where I would find this useful, no funds are available for packages like Spectra, etc. Anyone aware of any articles that might have been written describing the issues and possible solutions to make implementing something like this easier? -- Larry W. Virden URL: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.purl.org/net/lvirden/ Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Take a look at eWebEditPro (http://www.ektron.com/single.cfm?doc_id=36) or even eMPower Express http://www.ektron.com/product.cfm?doc_id=843. There have been posts to this list that suggest other HTML editing tools so you might want to search the mail archives (http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/). Good luck. -Original Message- From: Michael Rosario [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:08 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? If you decide to write your own solution, you may consider forcing your client to use a IE browser. Then you can use the HTML editing features of the browser. It's very easy to code. Here's some DOCS from MSDN... http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/edit/default.asp The basic idea is this. You make a DIV editable. This DIV on course contains the text that you want your client to edit. You'll have to code up a submit button to move the innerHTML of the DIV to a hidden field. You'll also have a few issues with escaping characters, but it's pretty easy to clean that up. Hope that helps... /\/\ichael -Original Message- From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? If this is no good you could look at making th content dynamic and building a Remote Management System for the client to use to change the content. By using Java Script you can even allow the users to italisise, make bold, underline, etc.without requiring them to have any HTML knowledge. This just involves more work on your part initially -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd http://www.thoughtbubble.net -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Tel: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Tel: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 -- The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0)207 387 8890. -Original Message- From: Katherine Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? I never thought I'd suggest such a programme, but Dreamweaver might be what you're after. With the new version (4) you can make templates which have 'editable' and 'uneditable' regions, which allows you to lock off navigation and things that you don't want anyone to mess with. Also it includes ftp stuff aswell. It should be ideal for a situation like this, Kath Katherine Maltby Senior Producer -- United Kingdom http://www.thoughtbubble.co.uk/ Ph: +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -- New Zealand http://www.thoughtbubble.co.nz/ Ph: +64 (0) 9 488 9131 The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s) . Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Thoughtbubble. This information may be subject to legal, professional or other privilege and further distribution of it is strictly prohibited without our authority. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message. Please notify us on +44 (0) 20 7387 8890 -Original Message- From: Peter Theobald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2001 15:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Sorry for the OT post... I have a client who needs to be able to make simple text changes to static HTML pages. I tried having him use FrontPage but he managed to destroy the entire site, which I had to restore from backups. Can someone recommend an HTML editor that will simply download ONE page, allow SIMPLE editing of text, and upload THAT page. Something that my grandmother could use (hint: she wonders why she never has to put new ice in her "icebox"). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.c
RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation?
Hi everyone, For a great alternative to Spectra look at Zope (www.zope.org) it is very comparable to Spectra although doesn't cost anything. Jared Clinton. Software Engineer, Maxi Multimedia NEC Australia. -Original Message- From: Larry W. Virden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 19 April 2001 1:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: HTML editor for idiots? recommendation? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:31:42 +0100 From: James Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] (alternately suggest re-building the whole site with a remote management system that hold editable content in a huge database Boy, this is something that I would love to see. However, on the sites where I would find this useful, no funds are available for packages like Spectra, etc. Anyone aware of any articles that might have been written describing the issues and possible solutions to make implementing something like this easier? -- Larry W. Virden URL: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.purl.org/net/lvirden/ Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should be construed as representing my employer's opinions. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
