Re Help with Dedicated Server
I don't know what happened to my original reply 1 1/2 days ago but here it is as it should have been. This is a difficult one to answer as things like people's opinions about hosters, who's good-bad and why etc get in the way. I spent some time working as a consultant with Allaire so I saw a lot of different environments and set-ups here is my opinion and point of view from those experiences. BANDWIDTH I'll start at the end, with regard to bandwidth needs if the new installation application will be the same or similar to the current "on two servers running CF server 4.5" get your current bandwidth usage from that set up. MOVING - It looks like you are moving from a clustered environment to a single server? "web site to a dedicated server". I would not do that it is a retrograde step however accept my apologies if I misunderstood your email. If the new environment will have two servers make sure they are as similar as possible and if you are not using it use the clustering software that comes with ColdFusion, I would start to use it. It is good for up to 8 servers in a cluster and is native to ColdFusion. COLDFUSION 5 DEDICATED vs COLOCATION. Again from my experience I would avoid a fully managed service where ColdFusion is included. That is because a lot of the Managed Services people don't know much about ColdFusion and also often slap restrictions on what you can and cannot do. To be fair this is far more prevalent in the really big hosting companies. I much prefer to own and run ColdFusion myself, however if you don't have a lot of ColdFusion expertise in-house you will be better off getting a fully managed service with a hosting company who really knows ColdFusion. If you go that route ask for some client referrals. REMOTE MANAGEMENT - Over the years I have used PC Anywhere in a Windows Setting for this and have found it to be the best around. In Unix I simply use Telnet and sometimes xWindows software. ONE HAND CLAPPING - This is the toughest but I do have a sort of suggestion. I have seen and heard Jimi Hendrix and Stevie Ray Vaughan do very magical things with one hand, a Stratocaster and a Marshall stack (or two). Find some old videos/dvd's/cd's look listen and enjoy it. I hope this is of some help to you. Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages." -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Help with dedicated server I am getting ready to help the move a web site to a dedicated server. I have know idea where yet. It is currently load balanced on two servers running CF server 4.5 and Informix. Can anyone give me some advice, words of caution, or things to look for when I go to pick out the company to host us? I need help with things like: Do I buy CF Server 5 or does that usually come with a service? How do I manage the server when its half way across the US? What is the sound of one hand clapping? How do I find out how much band width I need? You get the idea. TIA Phillip ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Help with dedicated server
Most ISPs that offer dedicated services also rent you all the software as well, so in most cases you don't need to buy anything. That should be included in the monthly lease. Two servers is probably going to run you between $1600-$2000 per month for a decent ISP, but you can get it much cheaper if you go with a smaller network. You can manage your servers with PC Anywhere. You need at least a cable modem connection to do that effectively. The sound of one hand clapping would depend upon the friction of the air, water, or whatever surface it's clapping against. You should know what your expected traffic levels are upfront based upon the logs you should already be keeping. This will be a factor in pricing. For example, if you're running a porn site, you're probably going to pay high fees for excess bandwidth charges. Keep in mind that a lot of hosting companies are in trouble right now because the whole internet economy is in a slump. Just because a company is big doesn't mean that they are stable. With that in mind, always have a backup plan. If you can afford the hardware and software, I recommend bringing everything inhouse. If you need a more detailed analysis, I have a document I prepared for one of my previous clients which goes into much deeper detail - email me directly if you're interested. ---mark -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Help with dedicated server I am getting ready to help the move a web site to a dedicated server. I have know idea where yet. It is currently load balanced on two servers running CF server 4.5 and Informix. Can anyone give me some advice, words of caution, or things to look for when I go to pick out the company to host us? I need help with things like: Do I buy CF Server 5 or does that usually come with a service? How do I manage the server when its half way across the US? What is the sound of one hand clapping? How do I find out how much band width I need? You get the idea. TIA Phillip ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Help with dedicated server
Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226 "It's a little-known fact that the Y1K problem caused the Dark Ages." -Original Message- From: Phillip Broussard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 2:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Help with dedicated server I am getting ready to help the move a web site to a dedicated server. I have know idea where yet. It is currently load balanced on two servers running CF server 4.5 and Informix. Can anyone give me some advice, words of caution, or things to look for when I go to pick out the company to host us? I need help with things like: Do I buy CF Server 5 or does that usually come with a service? How do I manage the server when its half way across the US? What is the sound of one hand clapping? How do I find out how much band width I need? You get the idea. TIA Phillip ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
