RE: How can it be done ?
pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
Good idea, though after the installation, there is a reboot, page is gone. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
or use session vars and pass the cfid and cftoken (or jsessionid) in the url and the user can't muck about with the userid -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How can it be done ? pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
can you store the users ip address and associate it with the id? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Good idea, though after the installation, there is a reboot, page is gone. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
So why not have them log in again and pass the ID in the URL string? - Original Message - From: Chris To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 8:56 AM Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Good idea, though after the installation, there is a reboot, page is gone. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
HmmmI'm trying to imagine getting around the reboot.I'd think about either storing the id in a new field in the login database or setting a flag, depending on your design, that would be pulled down after the reboot and re-log-in. Rick -Original Message- From: John Stanley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2003 10:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How can it be done ? can you store the users ip address and associate it with the id? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Good idea, though after the installation, there is a reboot, page is gone. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
No such thing. IP-address is out of the question as some users use dynamic IP. Fact is that after the installation and reboot a html page is called in which the ID is filled out in a form. So... I need to get that ID from somewhere on the client's computer. - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? can you store the users ip address and associate it with the id? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Good idea, though after the installation, there is a reboot, page is gone. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? pass the ID in the url. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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hmmmtricky especially since there is a reboot...if cookies are a no go, then I am not sure how you will keep state etc? you could write a file with the userid to the hard drive (as you are allowing a download). but even that will require a user to accept the download. _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
Been thinking of wrting a file to the HD, though that is a second download for the user. Should all be done in 1 download. Anyway of writing into the registry with CF, if so what about security limitations ? - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:08 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? hmmmtricky especially since there is a reboot...if cookies are a no go, then I am not sure how you will keep state etc? you could write a file with the userid to the hard drive (as you are allowing a download). but even that will require a user to accept the download. _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
I do agree with Neil, but another option before CFMX would be to write the information into the registry by using the cfregistry tag. Just another option for you. _ From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:09 AM To: CF-Talk hmmmtricky especially since there is a reboot...if cookies are a no go, then I am not sure how you will keep state etc? you could write a file with the userid to the hard drive (as you are allowing a download). but even that will require a user to accept the download. _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
Thanks Ricky, I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. - Original Message - From: Ricky Fritzsching To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? I do agree with Neil, but another option before CFMX would be to write the information into the registry by using the cfregistry tag. Just another option for you. _ From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:09 AM To: CF-Talk hmmmtricky especially since there is a reboot...if cookies are a no go, then I am not sure how you will keep state etc? you could write a file with the userid to the hard drive (as you are allowing a download). but even that will require a user to accept the download. _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
Oops, that is out of the question then... - Original Message - From: Nick de Voil To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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In a closed group of users (non-public) like this sounds, I would prefer users allow cookies for your specific domain if they are set to restrict cookies accross the board. For this I would code for modern IE, and in internet options-privacy you can override cookie handling for individual websites. Wouldn't this be best? Greg -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Oops, that is out of the question then... - Original Message - From: Nick de Voil To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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That would indeed be the best that I have some control over the browser (like IE), though this is not the case here;( Has to be multi-platform, multi-preference, multi-settings coded - Original Message - From: Greg Luce To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:44 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? In a closed group of users (non-public) like this sounds, I would prefer users allow cookies for your specific domain if they are set to restrict cookies accross the board. For this I would code for modern IE, and in internet options-privacy you can override cookie handling for individual websites. Wouldn't this be best? Greg -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Oops, that is out of the question then... - Original Message - From: Nick de Voil To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:34 PM Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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If a cookie is not set, and you can not use the IP, I can not think of another way.. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How can it be done ? hmmmtricky especially since there is a reboot...if cookies are a no go, then I am not sure how you will keep state etc? you could write a file with the userid to the hard drive (as you are allowing a download). but even that will require a user to accept the download. _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
-Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I think you are on a hiding to nothing on this one.. :-(sounds like you are trying to do something which the web was not designed to do.. if you get a good resolutionthen post it though! _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 15:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: How can it be done ?
Can be done, although snall problem then : The ID comes from the atabase, the downloaded file is a zip-file, means unzip, run, reboot. If I only could make the following download.zip?ID=5656565 with the zip-file - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Will keep working on this, and will post what I've done I also think it is one way street with a roadblock in the begining on this, although any ideas are welcome. Chris - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? I think you are on a hiding to nothing on this one.. :-(sounds like you are trying to do something which the web was not designed to do.. if you get a good resolutionthen post it though! _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 15:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
If they have to login, just associate the login with the provided ID. When the login occurs, retrieve the appropriate ID. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
If the user has to log in and then gets an id number from a database, why don't you create another table that stores the users login info and the id that matches up to it?That way you just check when they login if they already have an id number, if no assign one. Steve -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Will keep working on this, and will post what I've done I also think it is one way street with a roadblock in the begining on this, although any ideas are welcome. Chris - Original Message - From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? I think you are on a hiding to nothing on this one.. :-(sounds like you are trying to do something which the web was not designed to do.. if you get a good resolutionthen post it though! _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 15:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: How can it be done ?
How about on the page that presents the download you givea popup window in German (or another non English language... the intent here is deceive) that when they respond to you add the current URL with ID in it inside their favorites and make it their homepage so next time they launch their browser, you have their ID and they are at the URL you need them to be at!!! :-) -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Can be done, although snall problem then : The ID comes from the atabase, the downloaded file is a zip-file, means unzip, run, reboot. If I only could make the following download.zip?ID=5656565 with the zip-file - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Good ideas, though cannot be done. The login occurs, the id is being retrieved, download started, reboot occurs and immediately (without login) a html-page is started containing a form with the ID filled out. The user does not have to login again. - Original Message - From: Jeff Beer To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? If they have to login, just associate the login with the provided ID. When the login occurs, retrieve the appropriate ID. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Thanks Michael, That opens up a new perspective. Now, one thing that the page being called after reboot is started automatically. I would have to put it in the Startup Page of their browser, copy the old one first, start up browser and then after the page has been called put back the old startpage. Can that be done ? - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? How about on the page that presents the download you givea popup window in German (or another non English language... the intent here is deceive) that when they respond to you add the current URL with ID in it inside their favorites and make it their homepage so next time they launch their browser, you have their ID and they are at the URL you need them to be at!!! :-) -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Can be done, although snall problem then : The ID comes from the atabase, the downloaded file is a zip-file, means unzip, run, reboot. If I only could make the following download.zip?ID=5656565 with the zip-file - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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You are talking about setting client's system level parameters to launch their browser and open a specific page after a reboot... well beyond the capabilities of a web application unless you get into some very advanced concepts which you have already said can not be used: ActiveX for one... -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Good ideas, though cannot be done. The login occurs, the id is being retrieved, download started, reboot occurs and immediately (without login) a html-page is started containing a form with the ID filled out. The user does not have to login again. - Original Message - From: Jeff Beer To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? If they have to login, just associate the login with the provided ID. When the login occurs, retrieve the appropriate ID. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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No way... you can ASK them to set their homepage by clicking ok when the setHomePage method throws the confirmation box up, but you can not force them. Additionally, that functionality only works in IE I think... -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Thanks Michael, That opens up a new perspective. Now, one thing that the page being called after reboot is started automatically. I would have to put it in the Startup Page of their browser, copy the old one first, start up browser and then after the page has been called put back the old startpage. Can that be done ? - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? How about on the page that presents the download you givea popup window in German (or another non English language... the intent here is deceive) that when they respond to you add the current URL with ID in it inside their favorites and make it their homepage so next time they launch their browser, you have their ID and they are at the URL you need them to be at!!! :-) -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Can be done, although snall problem then : The ID comes from the atabase, the downloaded file is a zip-file, means unzip, run, reboot. If I only could make the following download.zip?ID=5656565 with the zip-file - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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hmmm I believe this dead end, I will keep you guys updated on this. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? No way... you can ASK them to set their homepage by clicking ok when the setHomePage method throws the confirmation box up, but you can not force them. Additionally, that functionality only works in IE I think... -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Thanks Michael, That opens up a new perspective. Now, one thing that the page being called after reboot is started automatically. I would have to put it in the Startup Page of their browser, copy the old one first, start up browser and then after the page has been called put back the old startpage. Can that be done ? - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? How about on the page that presents the download you givea popup window in German (or another non English language... the intent here is deceive) that when they respond to you add the current URL with ID in it inside their favorites and make it their homepage so next time they launch their browser, you have their ID and they are at the URL you need them to be at!!! :-) -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Can be done, although snall problem then : The ID comes from the atabase, the downloaded file is a zip-file, means unzip, run, reboot. If I only could make the following download.zip?ID=5656565 with the zip-file - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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What is the software you are downloading and installing?How are you installing it? The only way to do something like this that I can think of is to write an application that performs all these tasks for you. It might be easiest to use InstallShield (or similar) and create a custom install script.You can modify the registry on the client machine to hold the ID, and tell it to run IE to a specified URL one time at startup (runOnce).That url, stored in the registry, would contain the ID.InstallShield is very scriptable, and you can do things like check to see if the install went correctly and take corrective action if it did not, etc. It's certainly possible, without getting into all the political issues that this kind of forcing a user to install software brings up, but it's not entirely trivial.You can't do this with Coldfusion (or any other web/scripting language) alone. Good luck! Jeff -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: How can it be done ? You are talking about setting client's system level parameters to launch their browser and open a specific page after a reboot... well beyond the capabilities of a web application unless you get into some very advanced concepts which you have already said can not be used: ActiveX for one... -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Good ideas, though cannot be done. The login occurs, the id is being retrieved, download started, reboot occurs and immediately (without login) a html-page is started containing a form with the ID filled out. The user does not have to login again. - Original Message - From: Jeff Beer To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? If they have to login, just associate the login with the provided ID. When the login occurs, retrieve the appropriate ID. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Just email them the link they should run. Keeps it simple -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 16:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? hmmm I believe this dead end, I will keep you guys updated on this. - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:45 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? No way... you can ASK them to set their homepage by clicking ok when the setHomePage method throws the confirmation box up, but you can not force them. Additionally, that functionality only works in IE I think... -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Thanks Michael, That opens up a new perspective. Now, one thing that the page being called after reboot is started automatically. I would have to put it in the Startup Page of their browser, copy the old one first, start up browser and then after the page has been called put back the old startpage. Can that be done ? - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? How about on the page that presents the download you givea popup window in German (or another non English language... the intent here is deceive) that when they respond to you add the current URL with ID in it inside their favorites and make it their homepage so next time they launch their browser, you have their ID and they are at the URL you need them to be at!!! :-) -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Can be done, although snall problem then : The ID comes from the atabase, the downloaded file is a zip-file, means unzip, run, reboot. If I only could make the following download.zip?ID=5656565 with the zip-file - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:52 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? could the first download place a copy of the text file that is looked for when the user logs back in? -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Writing to a text file is another download, can only be one download (to keep it simple for the user) - Original Message - From: John Stanley To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? what about having the program write to a text file on the client machine, then when the user comes back up, read from that text file. -Original Message- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. cfregistry writes to the server's registry, not the client's. Nick _ _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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What about adding the userid as part of the file name that they download? Timothy Heald Information Systems Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How can it be done ? Thanks Ricky, I think that writing to the registry will be the best solution for this. - Original Message - From: Ricky Fritzsching To: CF-Talk Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: RE: How can it be done ? I do agree with Neil, but another option before CFMX would be to write the information into the registry by using the cfregistry tag. Just another option for you. _ From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 9:09 AM To: CF-Talk hmmmtricky especially since there is a reboot...if cookies are a no go, then I am not sure how you will keep state etc? you could write a file with the userid to the hard drive (as you are allowing a download). but even that will require a user to accept the download. _ From: Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 October 2003 14:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: How can it be done ? Good afternoon everyone, I have a small quetion, may be one of you skilled guys can help me out. I have a login page, when the users logs in an ID is pulled from a database with CFQUERY. After logging in, a download is started, which will install additional software on the users computer. Important is that the ID can be reused after the download, so I must find a way to remember that ID somewhere or pass it with the download. Cookies are out of the question. Users have complete control over their browser settings, and I know that some have cookies out, other users are behind a firewall which will not allow ActiveX. Anyone has any ideas ? Thanks, Chris Germany. _ _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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1) login occurs 2) id retrieved 3) write html page to disk on server with id field populated 4) generate fresh zip file containing the users customized html page and any other files needed 5) begin download 6) reboot occurs 7) load html page that was generated and included in zip Chris wrote: Good ideas, though cannot be done. The login occurs, the id is being retrieved, download started, reboot occurs and immediately (without login) a html-page is started containing a form with the ID filled out. The user does not have to login again. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
