Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
No solution - just a fellow sufferer. I too have a form that is carrying multiple hidden fields (about 40). I have written a debug script to catch the error and when the page fails, I send an e-mail to myself reporting all cgi and form variables. What is apparent is that the majority of users are using IE 6.0, they have NOT directly accessed the page and not a single form variable is present - even form.fieldnames is absent. And I get the error in CF4.5, 5.0 and MX 6.1 It's been a while since anyone posted to this thread - were there any solutions found? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
Also What browser are they using? Some older versions of browsers have been known to drop form fields. Kola >> -Original Message- >> From: Robert Kogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 28 July 2003 09:01 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? >> >> Let me describe the problem I'm experiencing -- there's a form on our >> site that is very long and contains many inputs (of type hidden, text, >> select, etc.). When the submit button is pressed, it submits to a second >> page. This all worked perfectly for many months, but this week we >> upgraded to ColdFusion MX from 5.0. Now the page still works for me, but >> about 10 times a day from other users I get an error email saying that on >> the second page, the form fields are undefined. The error occurs on the >> very first form field that the page tries to access, which is a select >> box. >> >> From reading others' suggestions, I've moved the and tags >> to outside the table, and I've fixed all ill-formed HTML. I've also run >> the ColdFusion updater to make sure that we have the latest version and >> patches. The problem is still occurring. >> >> I see in this forum that several people have experienced this problem and >> no solution was ever posted. If anyone has any info on this problem, >> please let me know. >> >> Thanks so much, >> Rob Kogan >> ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
If it's the first FORM variable you try to use that isn't there, it's probably someone accessing the page directly rather than via the form post. Run the page and see if the same error occurs. Ade -Original Message- From: Robert Kogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2003 09:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? Let me describe the problem I'm experiencing -- there's a form on our site that is very long and contains many inputs (of type hidden, text, select, etc.). When the submit button is pressed, it submits to a second page. This all worked perfectly for many months, but this week we upgraded to ColdFusion MX from 5.0. Now the page still works for me, but about 10 times a day from other users I get an error email saying that on the second page, the form fields are undefined. The error occurs on the very first form field that the page tries to access, which is a select box. >From reading others' suggestions, I've moved the and tags to outside the table, and I've fixed all ill-formed HTML. I've also run the ColdFusion updater to make sure that we have the latest version and patches. The problem is still occurring. I see in this forum that several people have experienced this problem and no solution was ever posted. If anyone has any info on this problem, please let me know. Thanks so much, Rob Kogan ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
Post your codeWhat is CardType? CheckBox? Joe Eugene > -Original Message- > From: Robert Kogan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? > > > I just upgraded from CF 5.0 to CFMX, and I am having this same > problem. The form submission works fine for me, but I still see > a few errors per day where the receiving form submission page > generates the error, "Element CARDTYPE is undefined in FORM". > I've made sure there is no ill-formed HTML or form code. Has > anyone found a solution to this problem? > > Thanks, > Rob Kogan > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
> I have a very similar story to Benjamin's. Form fields > that absolutely, > positively are accounted for (required on the form, > cfparam'd on the > action page etc. etc.) and cannot be blank... are on > random occasions. > Not just IE5 on the mac, unfortunately. Various versions > of IE and NN. > Did the same exhaustive research. Never found an answer, > although my > form construction is more solid from the efforts. Happens > to maybe 1 > form submission out of 100, although come to think of it I > haven't seen > one of these in quite a while. I'm using CF 4.5.1 sp2. Maybe something in SP2 fixed it? > Was interested to note Isaac's comment on nesting form > tags inside of > tables. I do that all the time, for the same reasons > Isaac did. What > browsers barf on that? I've never seen it be an issue... > Or is it just > bad nesting practice? Well, I've never seen it personally -- but I'd heard people mention it ... and I thought it was in reference to some version of ie for Mac, although my memory is fuzzy... In general it's "bad nesting" practice in so much as that it's technically illegal syntax according to the w3c standard for html. Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
I've seen thing similar in the past but not on the level you guys have. I've even experienced it here on my development machine... submit the form... variables don't get passed. A simple reboot (my dev box... so both the client and server were on it... sorry) solved the problem in my case. I've only seen it happen twice. I have a feeling your problems are much more severe. Does this happen every single time or is it intermittent? -Novak - Original Message - From: "Benjamin S. Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:58 AM Subject: RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? > I had a form on the Grand Canyon NPS site that used to get hundreds of > submissions a day. Periodically, like once every couple weeks, we'd get > a complaint from a user that the form didn't work. The user explained > that they filled out the form and tried to submit it only to receive an > error. > > I'd see the error in the ColdFusion logs. Form fields that absolutely > should have been submitted (such as hidden form fields) simply weren't > submitting. We spent quite a few hours trying to debug it. We even > rewrote the form from scratch twice, breaking it down in to smaller and > smaller multipart forms. We added JavaScript checks, server side checks, > and everything else we could think of. Still, the form fields would not > get submitted. > > You're probably hoping that we came across a solution and that I'm now > about to share that solution. Unfortunately, that is not the case. We > simply gave up. We blamed it on a thousand different things, everything > from AOL's proxy servers, to browser caching, to corporate firewalls. > The truth is we never figured it out. Looking back, the only regret I > have is that I spent so much time trying to fix a problem that I had no > control over. > > Benjamin S. Rogers > http://www.c4.net/ > v.508.240.0051 > f.508.240.0057 > > -Original Message- > From: Vishal Narayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:31 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? > > > Has anyone else experienced these missing form data errors ? These are > not > due to improper bookmarking, or due to browser having JavaScript > disabled. > The form field exists, but on submittting, is somehow not available to > the > next page. These occur randomly, and therefore cannot be a coding > issue. > > We are getting these errors more frequently when the traffic is higher. > This seems to imply some problem with session management, either with CF > > Server or IIS. We are using CF 4.5 SP2 on Win 2K Server, with IIS 5 and > SQL > 2000 DB. > > Has anyone experienced similar problems with their websites ? > > Vishal. > > > > __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
I have a very similar story to Benjamin's. Form fields that absolutely, positively are accounted for (required on the form, cfparam'd on the action page etc. etc.) and cannot be blank... are on random occasions. Not just IE5 on the mac, unfortunately. Various versions of IE and NN. Did the same exhaustive research. Never found an answer, although my form construction is more solid from the efforts. Happens to maybe 1 form submission out of 100, although come to think of it I haven't seen one of these in quite a while. I'm using CF 4.5.1 sp2. Was interested to note Isaac's comment on nesting form tags inside of tables. I do that all the time, for the same reasons Isaac did. What browsers barf on that? I've never seen it be an issue... Or is it just bad nesting practice? --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
I had a form on the Grand Canyon NPS site that used to get hundreds of submissions a day. Periodically, like once every couple weeks, we'd get a complaint from a user that the form didn't work. The user explained that they filled out the form and tried to submit it only to receive an error. I'd see the error in the ColdFusion logs. Form fields that absolutely should have been submitted (such as hidden form fields) simply weren't submitting. We spent quite a few hours trying to debug it. We even rewrote the form from scratch twice, breaking it down in to smaller and smaller multipart forms. We added JavaScript checks, server side checks, and everything else we could think of. Still, the form fields would not get submitted. You're probably hoping that we came across a solution and that I'm now about to share that solution. Unfortunately, that is not the case. We simply gave up. We blamed it on a thousand different things, everything from AOL's proxy servers, to browser caching, to corporate firewalls. The truth is we never figured it out. Looking back, the only regret I have is that I spent so much time trying to fix a problem that I had no control over. Benjamin S. Rogers http://www.c4.net/ v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 -Original Message- From: Vishal Narayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? Has anyone else experienced these missing form data errors ? These are not due to improper bookmarking, or due to browser having JavaScript disabled. The form field exists, but on submittting, is somehow not available to the next page. These occur randomly, and therefore cannot be a coding issue. We are getting these errors more frequently when the traffic is higher. This seems to imply some problem with session management, either with CF Server or IIS. We are using CF 4.5 SP2 on Win 2K Server, with IIS 5 and SQL 2000 DB. Has anyone experienced similar problems with their websites ? Vishal. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
Oh, on that note, I remember someone else mentioning that some browsers don't pass stuff properly if the html for the form is improperly nested, i.e. years ago when I started, I used to use In order to eliminate the quarter inch or half inch margin on the top and/or bottom of the form ( this was before I started working with style sheets )... In this example, make sure your form tags are either inside of a or or outside of the form... And double-check your table tags to make sure they all validate properly, i.e. a missing or the like might render properly on the form page in ie for Mac and then screw up the form so it doesn't pass a field or two... this might be especially helfpul if it turns out the form fields not being passed are all huddled together at the bottom of the form. hth Isaac Dealey Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 > I've seen this happen on Mac's using IE 5. Apparently there is some sort > of > bug in that browser which does not pass all form fields. > Check your logs and see which browsers are experiencing this problem. > - Original Message - > From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:24 AM > Subject: Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? >> > Has anyone else experienced these missing form data errors >> > ? These are not >> > due to improper bookmarking, or due to browser having >> > JavaScript disabled. >> > The form field exists, but on submittting, is somehow not >> > available to the >> > next page. These occur randomly, and therefore cannot be >> > a coding issue. >> >> > We are getting these errors more frequently when the >> > traffic is higher. >> > This seems to imply some problem with session management, >> > either with CF >> > Server or IIS. We are using CF 4.5 SP2 on Win 2K Server, >> > with IIS 5 and SQL >> > 2000 DB. >> >> Off the top of my head, the only suggestion I have is to make sure that >> you're not talking about checkboxes, radio buttons or multiple-select > boxes >> which could potentially not have a value selected to pass to the next > page. >> >> Isaac >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer >> >> www.turnkey.to >> 954-776-0046 >> >> > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
I've seen this happen on Mac's using IE 5. Apparently there is some sort of bug in that browser which does not pass all form fields. Check your logs and see which browsers are experiencing this problem. - Original Message - From: "S. Isaac Dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ? > > Has anyone else experienced these missing form data errors > > ? These are not > > due to improper bookmarking, or due to browser having > > JavaScript disabled. > > The form field exists, but on submittting, is somehow not > > available to the > > next page. These occur randomly, and therefore cannot be > > a coding issue. > > > We are getting these errors more frequently when the > > traffic is higher. > > This seems to imply some problem with session management, > > either with CF > > Server or IIS. We are using CF 4.5 SP2 on Win 2K Server, > > with IIS 5 and SQL > > 2000 DB. > > Off the top of my head, the only suggestion I have is to make sure that > you're not talking about checkboxes, radio buttons or multiple-select boxes > which could potentially not have a value selected to pass to the next page. > > Isaac > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 > > __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Missing form fields - anyone experienced this error ?
> Has anyone else experienced these missing form data errors > ? These are not > due to improper bookmarking, or due to browser having > JavaScript disabled. > The form field exists, but on submittting, is somehow not > available to the > next page. These occur randomly, and therefore cannot be > a coding issue. > We are getting these errors more frequently when the > traffic is higher. > This seems to imply some problem with session management, > either with CF > Server or IIS. We are using CF 4.5 SP2 on Win 2K Server, > with IIS 5 and SQL > 2000 DB. Off the top of my head, the only suggestion I have is to make sure that you're not talking about checkboxes, radio buttons or multiple-select boxes which could potentially not have a value selected to pass to the next page. Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
