RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

2005-08-24 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
look out...thought...its been exactly 90 days since the installation, I bet CF 
is trying to do something with client variables..we have them stored in the SQL 
server and maybe something is funky in that task?
 
I have been searching the archives and saw this one thing mentioned that seems 
to apply directly to my Win 2003/iis/CF 7 box. 



From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 8:10 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control



Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every four hours I have to 
reboot.

I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the cumulative hotfixes 
to number 3 installed, etc, everything is up to date.  Besides performing an 
exorcism?

Thanks.





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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

2005-08-24 Thread Dustin Snell [Network Automation]
This is happening to us as well and it is driving us nuts If anyone can
provide any guidance it would be greatly appreciated.

-Dustin Snell
Network Automation, Inc

-Original Message-
From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every four hours I have
to reboot.
 
I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the cumulative
hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything is up to date.  Besides
performing an exorcism?
 
Thanks.
 
 



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Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

2005-08-24 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every
 four hours I have to reboot.

 I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the
 cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything
 is up to date.  Besides performing an exorcism?

 Thanks.


If you think it might be client variable related, disable global
client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P



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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

2005-08-24 Thread kola.oyedeji
Anything in the logs? Any out of memory errors?

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 From: Dustin Snell [Network Automation]
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 Sent: 24 August 2005 13:39
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 Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control
 
 This is happening to us as well and it is driving us nuts If anyone
can
 provide any guidance it would be greatly appreciated.
 
 -Dustin Snell
 Network Automation, Inc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 6:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control
 
 Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every four hours I have
 to reboot.
 
 I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the cumulative
 hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything is up to date.  Besides
 performing an exorcism?
 
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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

2005-08-24 Thread Micha Schopman
That does not solve the problem, it only covers the problem up. What
does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of SQL Server
traffic? 

Maybe Macromedia can come up with an answer, my guess is you are not the

only one with this bug.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: woensdag 24 augustus 2005 15:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

 Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every
 four hours I have to reboot.

 I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the
 cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything
 is up to date.  Besides performing an exorcism?

 Thanks.


If you think it might be client variable related, disable global
client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P



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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

2005-08-24 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
Okay, I think I have found the issueit was trying to run some file over and 
over.  
 
I removed the directory as it wasn't in use any longer.  Here's the freak show: 
 I removed all scheduled tasks, etc, mappings, etc to the Fusetalk Forums that 
was firing up this query over and over.  I even deleted *all* scheduled tasks 
for now.
 
Restarted.  
 
Now, it just gives me an error file not found in the exception.log every thirty 
seconds.  At least memory has stabilized, my i/o just getting some love now.   
But the server is staying up.
 
Stopped the IIS website even that was where the forums were stored.  Restarted 
CF.  Same flippin thing happening.
 
NOW, how can this be?  Is there a file that contains/runs certain scheduled 
tasks that in some way may not have properly deleted this process...I started 
to look for a scheduled task xml file somewhere but not real certain where its 
stored.  I mean, it starts right from the get go like a dog after a bone.
 
Any thoughts from other server guys on this one?



From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control



That does not solve the problem, it only covers the problem up. What
does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of SQL Server
traffic?

Maybe Macromedia can come up with an answer, my guess is you are not the

only one with this bug.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 24 augustus 2005 15:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

 Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every
 four hours I have to reboot.

 I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the
 cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything
 is up to date.  Besides performing an exorcism?

 Thanks.


If you think it might be client variable related, disable global
client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P



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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

2005-08-24 Thread Dustin M Snell [Network Automation]
This is very interesting. We use Fusetalk over here as well. Problem is, I
don't want to disable it because we actively use it! Can you be more
specific about what exactly you need to do to fix the problem? Does it
require discontinuing use of Fusetalk altogether?

-Dustin Snell
Network Automation, Inc

-Original Message-
From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

Okay, I think I have found the issueit was trying to run some file over
and over.  
 
I removed the directory as it wasn't in use any longer.  Here's the freak
show:  I removed all scheduled tasks, etc, mappings, etc to the Fusetalk
Forums that was firing up this query over and over.  I even deleted *all*
scheduled tasks for now.
 
Restarted.  
 
Now, it just gives me an error file not found in the exception.log every
thirty seconds.  At least memory has stabilized, my i/o just getting some
love now.   But the server is staying up.
 
Stopped the IIS website even that was where the forums were stored.
Restarted CF.  Same flippin thing happening.
 
NOW, how can this be?  Is there a file that contains/runs certain scheduled
tasks that in some way may not have properly deleted this process...I
started to look for a scheduled task xml file somewhere but not real certain
where its stored.  I mean, it starts right from the get go like a dog after
a bone.
 
Any thoughts from other server guys on this one?



From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control



That does not solve the problem, it only covers the problem up. What
does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of SQL Server
traffic?

Maybe Macromedia can come up with an answer, my guess is you are not the

only one with this bug.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 24 augustus 2005 15:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

 Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every
 four hours I have to reboot.

 I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the
 cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything
 is up to date.  Besides performing an exorcism?

 Thanks.


If you think it might be client variable related, disable global
client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P



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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

2005-08-24 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 That does not solve the problem, it only covers the
 problem up. What
 does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of
 SQL Server
 traffic?

Well that's not entirely accurate... If the problem is in fact
unnecessary global client updates, then turning them off does indeed
solve the problem. It wasn't the problem in this case, I was just
throwing out a suggestion to troubleshoot it.


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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

2005-08-24 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
I use Fusetalk in other high traffic installations, so I don't think its 
Fusetalk.  CF/JRUN keeps trying to fire off some process that is not even 
listed in the scheduled tasks...so the issue is some weirdness in there.
 
But I would check to see if you have in your exception log anything about a 
categories query from the Fusetalk area...thats what tipped me off in that 
direction.
 
Anyone know how to find hidden automated tasks that CF/JRUN try to fire off, or 
where the config file for that is?



From: Dustin M Snell [Network Automation] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 11:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)



This is very interesting. We use Fusetalk over here as well. Problem is, I
don't want to disable it because we actively use it! Can you be more
specific about what exactly you need to do to fix the problem? Does it
require discontinuing use of Fusetalk altogether?

-Dustin Snell
Network Automation, Inc

-Original Message-
From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

Okay, I think I have found the issueit was trying to run some file over
and over. 

I removed the directory as it wasn't in use any longer.  Here's the freak
show:  I removed all scheduled tasks, etc, mappings, etc to the Fusetalk
Forums that was firing up this query over and over.  I even deleted *all*
scheduled tasks for now.

Restarted. 

Now, it just gives me an error file not found in the exception.log every
thirty seconds.  At least memory has stabilized, my i/o just getting some
love now.   But the server is staying up.

Stopped the IIS website even that was where the forums were stored.
Restarted CF.  Same flippin thing happening.

NOW, how can this be?  Is there a file that contains/runs certain scheduled
tasks that in some way may not have properly deleted this process...I
started to look for a scheduled task xml file somewhere but not real certain
where its stored.  I mean, it starts right from the get go like a dog after
a bone.

Any thoughts from other server guys on this one?



From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control



That does not solve the problem, it only covers the problem up. What
does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of SQL Server
traffic?

Maybe Macromedia can come up with an answer, my guess is you are not the

only one with this bug.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 24 augustus 2005 15:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

 Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every
 four hours I have to reboot.

 I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the
 cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything
 is up to date.  Besides performing an exorcism?

 Thanks.


If you think it might be client variable related, disable global
client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P



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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

2005-08-24 Thread Dave.Phillips
Could you find them with some java code?  I don't have it handy, but I know 
there's some java code you can use to display all scheduled tasks.  Might be 
worth trying to see if it's showing something that isn't on the administrator 
page.

Maybe someone here knows that code offhand?

Dave

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From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)


I use Fusetalk in other high traffic installations, so I don't think its 
Fusetalk.  CF/JRUN keeps trying to fire off some process that is not even 
listed in the scheduled tasks...so the issue is some weirdness in there.
 
But I would check to see if you have in your exception log anything about a 
categories query from the Fusetalk area...thats what tipped me off in that 
direction.
 
Anyone know how to find hidden automated tasks that CF/JRUN try to fire off, or 
where the config file for that is?

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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

2005-08-24 Thread Eric J. Hoffman
That's exactly what I am looking for...how to find that which is not shown in 
the CF admin!  :)  I don't know how to do so.



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Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 2:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)



Could you find them with some java code?  I don't have it handy, but I know 
there's some java code you can use to display all scheduled tasks.  Might be 
worth trying to see if it's showing something that isn't on the administrator 
page.

Maybe someone here knows that code offhand?

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)


I use Fusetalk in other high traffic installations, so I don't think its 
Fusetalk.  CF/JRUN keeps trying to fire off some process that is not even 
listed in the scheduled tasks...so the issue is some weirdness in there.

But I would check to see if you have in your exception log anything about a 
categories query from the Fusetalk area...thats what tipped me off in that 
direction.

Anyone know how to find hidden automated tasks that CF/JRUN try to fire off, or 
where the config file for that is?

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