RE: RED SKY BETA
Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA But I emphasize the anal part. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Hehehe, alright I recant the jealous part. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Lighten up, it's Friday. Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
But I emphasize the anal part. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 1:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Hehehe, alright I recant the jealous part. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Lighten up, it's Friday. Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
Hehehe, alright I recant the jealous part. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Lighten up, it's Friday. Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: RED SKY BETA
You do have to commend them for the effort they have obviously made. Good PR. Dana On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:34:02 -0500, Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not only announced it, but the project manager has been posting constant > updates > on this list, and I would imagine it is not a violation of the NDA to > discuss > his updates. I for one, hopefully am now part of the solution and not > part of > the problem, either perceived or real. > > Most Beta projects are conducted very secretly and little info is > released > publicly until the product is released. But in the Case of Red Sky, MM > is > demonstrating their commitment to address all the problems that have been > discussed on here, no matter how off-the-wall they seemed at the time, as > the > feature requests that have been submitted, as well as other places. > Based on > the posts and updates I have seen on this list, MM is doing a terrific > job in > fixing CFMX and its installer packaging. Based on my own participation > in the > beta project, I will honor the NDA and just comment that I am really > excited and > positive about it. > > There have been posts complaining about MM's communications (or lack of) > and it > is evident that this has changed radically for the better. > > == > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > == > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > - Original Message - From: "Adam Wayne Lehman" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:42 AM > Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA > > > | Lighten up, it's Friday. > | > | Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in > | particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. > | > | Adam Wayne Lehman > | Web Systems Developer > | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > | Distance Education Division > | > | > | -Original Message- > | From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA > | > | It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. > | > | M > | > | -Original Message- > | From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA > | > | > | Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got > | flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. > | > | Adam Wayne Lehman > | Web Systems Developer > | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health > | Distance Education Division > | > | > | -Original Message- > | From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: RED SKY BETA > | > | We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its > | paces > | and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. > | > | If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete > | the > | simple Beta program application: > | > | http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta > | > | The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that > can > | be > | talked about publicly, but it's located here: > | > | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ > | > | We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be > | "The > | ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. > | > | See you in the Beta Forums! > | > | Damon Cooper > | Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server > | Macromedia > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | > | > | > | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: RED SKY BETA
Not only announced it, but the project manager has been posting constant updates on this list, and I would imagine it is not a violation of the NDA to discuss his updates. I for one, hopefully am now part of the solution and not part of the problem, either perceived or real. Most Beta projects are conducted very secretly and little info is released publicly until the product is released. But in the Case of Red Sky, MM is demonstrating their commitment to address all the problems that have been discussed on here, no matter how off-the-wall they seemed at the time, as the feature requests that have been submitted, as well as other places. Based on the posts and updates I have seen on this list, MM is doing a terrific job in fixing CFMX and its installer packaging. Based on my own participation in the beta project, I will honor the NDA and just comment that I am really excited and positive about it. There have been posts complaining about MM's communications (or lack of) and it is evident that this has changed radically for the better. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Adam Wayne Lehman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA | Lighten up, it's Friday. | | Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in | particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. | | Adam Wayne Lehman | Web Systems Developer | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health | Distance Education Division | | | -Original Message- | From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA | | It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. | | M | | -Original Message- | From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA | | | Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got | flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. | | Adam Wayne Lehman | Web Systems Developer | Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health | Distance Education Division | | | -Original Message- | From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RED SKY BETA | | We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its | paces | and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. | | If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete | the | simple Beta program application: | | http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta | | The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can | be | talked about publicly, but it's located here: | | http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ | | We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be | "The | ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. | | See you in the Beta Forums! | | Damon Cooper | Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server | Macromedia | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
I'm with you adam, it all seemed a little over the top even now, several days later. I think just a prod from an official MM guy would have been sufficient Its up to *them* to enforce *their* law methinks > > Lighten up, it's Friday. > > Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in > particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. > > Adam Wayne Lehman > It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. > > M > > > > Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days > ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. > > Adam Wayne Lehman ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
I think you will find that most of the people who complained about the NDA breach have actaully been on it since Alpha 1! -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2003 16:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Lighten up, it's Friday. Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
Lighten up, it's Friday. Peter I apologize for all the anal jealous bastards (no one in particular) on this list, cuz MM announced the beta _publicly_ June 2. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
It's MM's decision to release info about the beta, not the testers. M -Original Message- From: Adam Wayne Lehman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: RED SKY BETA Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
Maybe some owe Peter an apology. It wasn't more than 4 days ago he got flamed for merely mentioning 'Red Sky Beta'. Adam Wayne Lehman Web Systems Developer Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Damon Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RED SKY BETA We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple Beta program application: http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. See you in the Beta Forums! Damon Cooper Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server Macromedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: RED SKY BETA
there's an extra 'm' in the url: cfmmx --- Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice : 360.756.8080 x12 fax : 360.647.5351 www.audiencecentral.com > -Original Message- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:59 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: RED SKY BETA > > > Damon, > > That signup url gives me a 404. > > I signed up yesterday. Hoping to hear back :D > > --- > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > --- > > > -- Original Message -- > From: Damon Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:52:02 -0400 > > >We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through > its paces and make this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. > > > >If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited > complete the simple Beta program application: > > > >http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta > > > >The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details > that can be talked about publicly, but it's located here: > > > >http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ > > > >We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want > it to be "The ONE" you use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. > > > >See you in the Beta Forums! > > > >Damon Cooper > >Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server > >Macromedia > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: RED SKY BETA
Damon, That signup url gives me a 404. I signed up yesterday. Hoping to hear back :D --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message -- From: Damon Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:52:02 -0400 >We need your help to really put the CF "RED SKY" release through its paces and make >this the best ColdFusion Server product ever released. > >If you think you might be able to help us out, you're invited complete the simple >Beta program application: > >http://www.macromedia.com/go/cfmmxbeta > >The CF "RED SKY" preview presentation contains the only details that can be talked >about publicly, but it's located here: > >http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ > >We've poured poured our heart & soul into RED SKY, and we want it to be "The ONE" you >use and depend on, to do-what-you-do. > >See you in the Beta Forums! > >Damon Cooper >Dir of Engineering, ColdFusion Server >Macromedia >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
Strewth, all I stated was the beta 2 was available. ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of the addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, read, forward, copy or retain any of the information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. The Commonwealth does not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or any other defects. You assume all liability for any loss, damage or other consequences which may arise from opening or using the attachments. *** ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
Uhm... Naw.. Better leave this one alone too. Nevermind. ;) Lee (As mother always said -- if you can't say something nice ... ) | -Original Message- | From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:28 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | OK...why doesn't everybody call the mothers of the folks that | said "Red Sky" on this list and get it over withmabye | they'll get their mouths washed out with soap. ;-) | | We all bloody well know what NDAs are...it's up to MM to | enforce them...not the members of this list. | | Far more than enough said...come on list police...swing that | billy club!! | | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. | t. 250.920.8830 | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - | Macromedia Associate Partner | www.macromedia.com | - | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group | Founder & Director | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com | - Original Message - | From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:14 AM | Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | > Also, Just because MM talks about it, that doesn't mean you | are still | > not under NDA. | > | > The NDA is there to protect MM, the products, and the consumers. | > | > > -Original Message- | > > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM | > > To: CF-Talk | > > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released | > > | > > > nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. | > > | > > Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second | > > thought is just wishing for problems | > > | > > They put the NDA there for a reason - because the | information is for | > > NON DISCLOSURE! | > > | > > Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but if | > > Macromedia ban people from future Betas when they | flagrantly broke | > > the NDA, then they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning | > > will help them... | > > | > > I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, | then you | > > deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I had to | > > sign an NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to | > > break NDAs, then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that | > > | > > That's my $0.02 anyways ;) | > > | > > | > > | > > | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
It seems that some people confuse private beta's with some type of elitist recognition, and then feel the need to let everyone know about it. I used to get a bit irked when 'neo' was under development, and people that didn't even work at mm would gnash their teeth at others for even bringing up the word 'neo', but then realized all they want is to let everyone know they're part of the beta. Knowing this, I don't get as confused - I just wish there was another way they could be recognized without having to call people idiots. Maybe mm could make a "private beta testers" web page, and then the NDA police could link to it in their sig or something - "Private RedSky Beta Tester - Gold Status" www.macromedia.com/elitiny If they really cared about keeping the beta private, they would email the person directly and then tattle to MM. I doubt any of them do this - better to go for the personal recognition ;P Adam. > -Original Message- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:28 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > OK...why doesn't everybody call the mothers of the folks that > said "Red Sky" > on this list and get it over withmabye they'll get their > mouths washed > out with soap. ;-) > > We all bloody well know what NDAs are...it's up to MM to > enforce them...not > the members of this list. > > Far more than enough said...come on list police...swing that > billy club!! > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:14 AM > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > > Also, Just because MM talks about it, that doesn't mean you > are still not > > under NDA. > > > > The NDA is there to protect MM, the products, and the consumers. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > > > > > nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. > > > > > > Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a > second thought is > > > just wishing for problems > > > > > > They put the NDA there for a reason - because the > information is for NON > > > DISCLOSURE! > > > > > > Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but > if Macromedia > > > ban people from future Betas when they flagrantly broke > the NDA, then > > > they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning will > help them... > > > > > > I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, then you > > > deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I > had to sign an > > > NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to > break NDAs, > > > then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that > > > > > > That's my $0.02 anyways ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
Got mine a little while ago. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | We haven't sent out responses to everyone yet, but you should hear | something by tomorrow afternoon. | | Christian | | On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 12:13 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: | | > nopestill tappin my fingers on my desk waiting for some kind of | > notification *sigh* | > | > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. | > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development | > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. | > t. 250.920.8830 | > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > - | > Macromedia Associate Partner | > www.macromedia.com | > - | > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group | > Founder & Director | > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com | > - Original Message - | > From: "David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:59 AM | > Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | > | > | >> MM recently announced that they were opening up | >> the RedSky beta program to new testers. I have | >> applied but heard nothing. I'm assuming that this | >> will be another case where MM will only contact | >> successful applicants. Has anyone else here who | >> applied for round 2 heard anything? | >> | >> --David K | >> | >> | >> | >> - Original Message - | >> From: "Tilbrook, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:46 PM | >> Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released | >> | >> | >>> For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, | >>> available | > at | >>> the usual place. | >>> | >> | >> | >> | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
Thanks for the update Christian...Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > We haven't sent out responses to everyone yet, but you should hear > something by tomorrow afternoon. > > Christian > > On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 12:13 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > > > nopestill tappin my fingers on my desk waiting for some kind of > > notification *sigh* > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > t. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > - > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > Founder & Director > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:59 AM > > Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > > > >> MM recently announced that they were opening up > >> the RedSky beta program to new testers. I have > >> applied but heard nothing. I'm assuming that this > >> will be another case where MM will only contact > >> successful applicants. Has anyone else here who > >> applied for round 2 heard anything? > >> > >> --David K > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: "Tilbrook, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:46 PM > >> Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released > >> > >> > >>> For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > >>> available > > at > >>> the usual place. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
We haven't sent out responses to everyone yet, but you should hear something by tomorrow afternoon. Christian On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 12:13 PM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: > nopestill tappin my fingers on my desk waiting for some kind of > notification *sigh* > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:59 AM > Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > > >> MM recently announced that they were opening up >> the RedSky beta program to new testers. I have >> applied but heard nothing. I'm assuming that this >> will be another case where MM will only contact >> successful applicants. Has anyone else here who >> applied for round 2 heard anything? >> >> --David K >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Tilbrook, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:46 PM >> Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released >> >> >>> For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, >>> available > at >>> the usual place. >>> >> >> >> > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
OK...why doesn't everybody call the mothers of the folks that said "Red Sky" on this list and get it over withmabye they'll get their mouths washed out with soap. ;-) We all bloody well know what NDAs are...it's up to MM to enforce them...not the members of this list. Far more than enough said...come on list police...swing that billy club!! Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > Also, Just because MM talks about it, that doesn't mean you are still not > under NDA. > > The NDA is there to protect MM, the products, and the consumers. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > > > nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. > > > > Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is > > just wishing for problems > > > > They put the NDA there for a reason - because the information is for NON > > DISCLOSURE! > > > > Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but if Macromedia > > ban people from future Betas when they flagrantly broke the NDA, then > > they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning will help them... > > > > I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, then you > > deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I had to sign an > > NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to break NDAs, > > then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that > > > > That's my $0.02 anyways ;) > > > > > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
Also, Just because MM talks about it, that doesn't mean you are still not under NDA. The NDA is there to protect MM, the products, and the consumers. > -Original Message- > From: Philip Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. > > Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is > just wishing for problems > > They put the NDA there for a reason - because the information is for NON > DISCLOSURE! > > Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but if Macromedia > ban people from future Betas when they flagrantly broke the NDA, then > they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning will help them... > > I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, then you > deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I had to sign an > NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to break NDAs, > then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that > > That's my $0.02 anyways ;) > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
I agree. I was just commenting on the word choice (idiots). I think a lot of people get caught up in the hype of being a beta tester and skim over the NDA... not good I know, but obviously its done or we wouldn't be having this conversation. Mike - Original Message - From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. > > Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is > just wishing for problems > > They put the NDA there for a reason - because the information is for NON > DISCLOSURE! > > Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but if Macromedia > ban people from future Betas when they flagrantly broke the NDA, then > they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning will help them... > > I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, then you > deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I had to sign an > NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to break NDAs, > then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that > > That's my $0.02 anyways ;) > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
hum.. who's more of an idiot? The idiot or the one who calls the idiot an idiot? - Original Message - From: "Philip Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > Yeah, and the rest of us who *want* to get on the Betas > > (again) have difficulty. > > > > How's that screening process work again? ;-) > > Simple, idiots who break it by announcing things on lists like this are > black-listed > > It's called NON-DISCLOSURE for a reason > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
> nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. Anyone who agrees to a NDA, then violates it without a second thought is just wishing for problems They put the NDA there for a reason - because the information is for NON DISCLOSURE! Admittedly using the word "idiot" is a little strong, but if Macromedia ban people from future Betas when they flagrantly broke the NDA, then they deserve all they get, and no amount of moaning will help them... I have strong feelings about NDAs, and if you break them, then you deserve all you "get" - I have been on MANY Betas where I had to sign an NDA, and have never broken one - if you feel the need to break NDAs, then you shouldn't agree to them, simple as that That's my $0.02 anyways ;) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky Beta 2
There is noting wrong with complying with an NDA, however the beta of Red Sky, is fully described not only publicly on the MM web site, but in public postings on this list by MM employees. That is more or less the 'official" description. The NDA should restrict all but the MM insiders from publicly discussing the innards of the project. MM has not particularly made a secret of what it is attempting to so with this maintenance release. But, the NDA should restrict all disclosures to MM insiders as they deem fit to release to the public. On the Macromedia Web site, Red Sky is described as a maintenance release of ColdFusionMX, and its install/updater packaging. There are a number of items that are being addressed also posted on the MM web site, as well as a rather lengthy list of "wishes and wants" that may be addressed. It is not described as a new product development or release, and all licensed users will be upgraded at no cost when the beta becomes a release. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Che Vilnonis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:50 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky Beta 2 | Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? | I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. | | ~CV | | -Original Message- | From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:38 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. | | mike chambers | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - Original Message - | From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM | Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | > At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: | > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, | > > > available at the usual place. | > > > | > > > Happy testing. | > > | > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... | > > >From official sources! | > > | > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it | > | > I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find out if beta | 2 | > is released. | > | > T | > | > | > Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move | > them to the Net! | > www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your | > favourites in one place and | > access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. | > | > | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
It's ok to say WHAT Red Sky is, because Macromedia have it on the web site. There's an overview at http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ Red Sky is the next update to CFMX. And what we know from events happening here in the last few days, and the statements of some Macromedia people about it, Red Sky will have many improvements and fixes to issues in CFMX, including improved installation routines. Other than that, the contents of Red Sky are under NDA. Cheers, Michael Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
nopestill tappin my fingers on my desk waiting for some kind of notification *sigh* Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "David K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:59 AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > MM recently announced that they were opening up > the RedSky beta program to new testers. I have > applied but heard nothing. I'm assuming that this > will be another case where MM will only contact > successful applicants. Has anyone else here who > applied for round 2 heard anything? > > --David K > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Tilbrook, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:46 PM > Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at > > the usual place. > > > > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky Beta 2
> Its a shepherds delight if it happens at night Yeah, Shepherd's don't get much. The sheep keep running away when they hear the sound of a zip. Taz ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky Beta 2
Che Vilnonis wrote: > Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? > I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/presentation/redsky/ This is the official information. Everything else should be regarded as gossip and would best be forgotten. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
nicely put thanks for not calling people idiots. - Original Message - From: "Christian Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 11:46 AM, Lee Fuller wrote: > > > I think it's amazing that people with NDA's simply announce beta info > > on > > open lists. Kinda against the purpose of an "NON DISCLOSURE" > > agreement -- > > isn't it? > > It is best to always err on the side of caution and only post > information about betas to beta lists. If Macromedia wants to make > public announcements about betas, we will do so. > > Christian > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
MM recently announced that they were opening up the RedSky beta program to new testers. I have applied but heard nothing. I'm assuming that this will be another case where MM will only contact successful applicants. Has anyone else here who applied for round 2 heard anything? --David K - Original Message - From: "Tilbrook, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 3:46 PM Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at > the usual place. > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 11:46 AM, Lee Fuller wrote: > I think it's amazing that people with NDA's simply announce beta info > on > open lists. Kinda against the purpose of an "NON DISCLOSURE" > agreement -- > isn't it? It is best to always err on the side of caution and only post information about betas to beta lists. If Macromedia wants to make public announcements about betas, we will do so. Christian ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
> Yeah, and the rest of us who *want* to get on the Betas > (again) have difficulty. > > How's that screening process work again? ;-) Simple, idiots who break it by announcing things on lists like this are black-listed It's called NON-DISCLOSURE for a reason ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky Beta 2
Its a shepherds delight if it happens at night -Original Message- From: Che Vilnonis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2003 16:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Red Sky Beta 2 Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. ~CV -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > > > available at the usual place. > > > > > > Happy testing. > > > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... > > >From official sources! > > > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it > > I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find out if beta 2 > is released. > > T > > > Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move > them to the Net! > www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your > favourites in one place and > access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky Beta 2
Is it against the NDA to tell me what Red Sky is??? I've been away for a while...and I am clueless. ~CV -Original Message- From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 11:38 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > > > available at the usual place. > > > > > > Happy testing. > > > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... > > >From official sources! > > > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it > > I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find out if beta 2 > is released. > > T > > > Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move > them to the Net! > www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your > favourites in one place and > access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
Yeah, and the rest of us who *want* to get on the Betas (again) have difficulty. How's that screening process work again? ;-) > -Original Message- > From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 10:46 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > > > I think it's amazing that people with NDA's simply announce > beta info on open lists. Kinda against the purpose of an > "NON DISCLOSURE" agreement -- isn't it? > > Owell.. Just my .02. > > > > | -Original Message- > | From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:38 AM > | To: CF-Talk > | Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released > | > | > | Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. > | > | mike chambers > | > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | - Original Message - > | From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM > | Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > | > | > | > At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: > | > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > | > > > available at the usual place. > | > > > > | > > > Happy testing. > | > > > | > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be > | > >informed... > | > > >From official sources! > | > > > | > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it > | > > | > I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta > | find out if > | > beta > | 2 > | > is released. > | > > | > T > | > > | > > | > Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? > | > Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites > | makes it easy > | > to keep all your favourites in one place and > | > access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. > | > > | > > | > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
I think it's amazing that people with NDA's simply announce beta info on open lists. Kinda against the purpose of an "NON DISCLOSURE" agreement -- isn't it? Owell.. Just my .02. | -Original Message- | From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:38 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. | | mike chambers | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - Original Message - | From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM | Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released | | | > At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: | > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, | > > > available at the usual place. | > > > | > > > Happy testing. | > > | > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be | > >informed... | > > >From official sources! | > > | > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it | > | > I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta | find out if | > beta | 2 | > is released. | > | > T | > | > | > Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? | > Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites | makes it easy | > to keep all your favourites in one place and | > access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. | > | > | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Red Sky beta 2 released
Well, we prefer that people respect their NDAs. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Thane Sherrington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:15 AM Subject: RE: Red Sky beta 2 released > At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: > > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > > > available at the usual place. > > > > > > Happy testing. > > > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... > > >From official sources! > > > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it > > I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find out if beta 2 > is released. > > T > > > Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move > them to the Net! > www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your > favourites in one place and > access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. > > ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Host with the leader in ColdFusion hosting. Voted #1 ColdFusion host by CF Developers. Offering shared and dedicated hosting options. www.cfxhosting.com/default.cfm?redirect=10481 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
> I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find > out if beta 2 is released. You mean people signed NDA's for nothing? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
At 01:08 PM 06/10/03 +0100, Philip Arnold wrote: > > For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > > available at the usual place. > > > > Happy testing. > >The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... > >From official sources! > >If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it I'm sure Macromedia cares if people outside an open beta find out if beta 2 is released. T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
> For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, > available at the usual place. > > Happy testing. The funny thing is that the people on the Beta test will be informed... >From official sources! If you're on the Beta, you signed the NDA... Try sticking to it ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Red Sky beta 2 released
you supposed to be posting here? -Original Message- From: Tilbrook, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 23:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Red Sky beta 2 released For those beta testing Red Sky, MM have just released beta 2, available at the usual place. Happy testing. == Peter Tilbrook Internet Applications Developer Australian Building Codes Board GPO Box 9839 CANBERRA ACT 2601 AUSTRALIA WWW: http://www.abcb.gov.au/ E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: +61 (02) 6213 6731 Mobile: 0439 401 823 Facsimile: +61 (02) 6213 7287 ** The information contained in this e-mail, and any attachments to it, is intended for the use of the addressee and is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, read, forward, copy or retain any of the information. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify the sender by return e-mail or telephone. The Commonwealth does not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or any other defects. You assume all liability for any loss, damage or other consequences which may arise from opening or using the attachments. *** ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4