Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-14 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
It would be if a physical page was created before publish but there isn't,
the page content etc is in the DB and constructed on demand from the DB for
flat file publishing to the web (which runs fine)

I was just hoping to speed up that first hit call but it looks like I will
have to live with it.






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From: Paul Vernon
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Subject: RE: Speeding up first hit compile time

 Erm, yes I know that but this is actually speeding up that process.

Why not use CFHTTP to call the page when you save it? Seems straightforward
enough...

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-14 Thread Will Tomlinson
I was just hoping to speed up that first hit call but it looks like I will
have to live with it.


You DO have one other option yanno. 

Bring this thread to Dave Watts's attention. lol!

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-14 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 It would be if a physical page was created before publish but there isn't,
 the page content etc is in the DB and constructed on demand from the DB for
 flat file publishing to the web (which runs fine)
 
 I was just hoping to speed up that first hit call but it looks like I will
 have to live with it.

I think your only option is to reduce the size of the template. If you 
can alter your CMS to move as much code static code as possible out of 
the dynamic template it might help marginally.

Jochem

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RE: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-14 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah, I think that will have to be the goal I think.


I am not sure what Will means though? 



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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
 It would be if a physical page was created before publish but there isn't,
 the page content etc is in the DB and constructed on demand from the DB
for
 flat file publishing to the web (which runs fine)
 
 I was just hoping to speed up that first hit call but it looks like I will
 have to live with it.

I think your only option is to reduce the size of the template. If you 
can alter your CMS to move as much code static code as possible out of 
the dynamic template it might help marginally.

Jochem



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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Andy Allan
cfcompile

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 'Ello

 Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates (not
 by
 extensive cachine of class files etc) I mean speed up the actual process
 as
 if it was running clean each time.

 Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit speed
 out
 of the box?

 Cheers

 Neil


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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah but that is an advance process which is not an option... as you know
first hand :-) our CMS generates files on the fly during editing/creation
which I was trying to speed up.







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From: Andy Allan
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Sent: Sun May 13 11:23:51 2007
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

cfcompile

On 13/05/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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 'Ello

 Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates (not
 by
 extensive cachine of class files etc) I mean speed up the actual process
 as
 if it was running clean each time.

 Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit speed
 out
 of the box?

 Cheers

 Neil


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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Andrew Scott
Neil...

not sure if this is an option or not.. Not sure how you are creating your on
the fly code, or template. But have you considered running a an execute or
something on the creation of that file to compile it? just a thought, not
sure if there is a setting in the Administrator or not. to help speed it up
though.



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 Yeah but that is an advance process which is not an option... as you know
 first hand :-) our CMS generates files on the fly during editing/creation
 which I was trying to speed up.







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 From: Andy Allan
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 Sent: Sun May 13 11:23:51 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 cfcompile

 On 13/05/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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  'Ello
 
  Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates (not
  by
  extensive cachine of class files etc) I mean speed up the actual process
  as
  if it was running clean each time.
 
  Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit speed
  out
  of the box?
 
  Cheers
 
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
The files are created by the CMS system on the fly so I kinda need to rely
on the ColdFusion engine to compile them first off as each page, per
user/project is unique.

It's no huge deal I was just trying to claw back those extra milliseconds
:-)





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From: Andrew Scott
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Sent: Sun May 13 13:36:32 2007
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Neil...

not sure if this is an option or not.. Not sure how you are creating your on
the fly code, or template. But have you considered running a an execute or
something on the creation of that file to compile it? just a thought, not
sure if there is a setting in the Administrator or not. to help speed it up
though.



On 5/13/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Yeah but that is an advance process which is not an option... as you know
 first hand :-) our CMS generates files on the fly during editing/creation
 which I was trying to speed up.







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 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 cfcompile

 On 13/05/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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  'Ello
 
  Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates (not
  by
  extensive cachine of class files etc) I mean speed up the actual process
  as
  if it was running clean each time.
 
  Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit speed
  out
  of the box?
 
  Cheers
 
  Neil
 
 
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I can obviously save class files and potentially turn on template caching
but in some cases this causes more problems.



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Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Neil...

not sure if this is an option or not.. Not sure how you are creating your on
the fly code, or template. But have you considered running a an execute or
something on the creation of that file to compile it? just a thought, not
sure if there is a setting in the Administrator or not. to help speed it up
though.



On 5/13/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Yeah but that is an advance process which is not an option... as you know
 first hand :-) our CMS generates files on the fly during editing/creation
 which I was trying to speed up.







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 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 cfcompile

 On 13/05/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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  'Ello
 
  Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates (not
  by
  extensive cachine of class files etc) I mean speed up the actual process
  as
  if it was running clean each time.
 
  Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit speed
  out
  of the box?
 
  Cheers
 
  Neil
 
 
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Peter Tilbrook
As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as the 
libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database server on 
the same box, system RAM, etc.

CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right code 
or trying to use CF as a database server.


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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Andrew Scott
Neil,

I think I said that when the file is created why not do a cfexcute on the
file to compile it?


On 5/13/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 The files are created by the CMS system on the fly so I kinda need to rely
 on the ColdFusion engine to compile them first off as each page, per
 user/project is unique.

 It's no huge deal I was just trying to claw back those extra milliseconds
 :-)





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 Neil...

 not sure if this is an option or not.. Not sure how you are creating your
 on
 the fly code, or template. But have you considered running a an execute or
 something on the creation of that file to compile it? just a thought, not
 sure if there is a setting in the Administrator or not. to help speed it
 up
 though.



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  Yeah but that is an advance process which is not an option... as you
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  which I was trying to speed up.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  cfcompile
 
  On 13/05/07, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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   'Ello
  
   Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates
 (not
   by
   extensive cachine of class files etc) I mean speed up the actual
 process
   as
   if it was running clean each time.
  
   Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit
 speed
   out
   of the box?
  
   Cheers
  
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Wouldn't help, the pages are created *and* requested on the fly.






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-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sun May 13 14:07:25 2007
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Neil,

I think I said that when the file is created why not do a cfexcute on the
file to compile it?


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 The files are created by the CMS system on the fly so I kinda need to rely
 on the ColdFusion engine to compile them first off as each page, per
 user/project is unique.

 It's no huge deal I was just trying to claw back those extra milliseconds
 :-)





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 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 Neil...

 not sure if this is an option or not.. Not sure how you are creating your
 on
 the fly code, or template. But have you considered running a an execute or
 something on the creation of that file to compile it? just a thought, not
 sure if there is a setting in the Administrator or not. to help speed it
 up
 though.



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  first hand :-) our CMS generates files on the fly during
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  Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time
 
  cfcompile
 
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   'Ello
  
   Is there anyway to speed up the first hit compile time of templates
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   as
   if it was running clean each time.
  
   Is it a case of JVM tweaks or a case of living with the first hit
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count when
you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database server
on the same box, system RAM, etc.

CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Gert Franz
Hi Neil,

I am still trying to convince you to try Railo :-) Since CFCompile is 
not an option you can tweak the JVM settings for CFMX. Read more here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/midp/articles/garbage/index.html

Since in Railo 1.1 we use a bytecode generator, the compiling time is 
around only 20ms per file... Before it was around 200ms...

Just to mention...

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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) schrieb:
 Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count when
 you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

 The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
 something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Tilbrook
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Sun May 13 13:53:22 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

 Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
 the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

 If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database server
 on the same box, system RAM, etc.

 CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
 code or trying to use CF as a database server.




 

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Perhaps you can try to convince me in Edinburgh at the end of the month :-)

As it stands though, if a switch was to happen it would be to Bluedragon.NET
so you have some work to do..!

Thanks for the link, will check it out.


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From: Gert Franz
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Sent: Sun May 13 17:37:51 2007
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Hi Neil,

I am still trying to convince you to try Railo :-) Since CFCompile is 
not an option you can tweak the JVM settings for CFMX. Read more here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/midp/articles/garbage/index.ht
ml

Since in Railo 1.1 we use a bytecode generator, the compiling time is 
around only 20ms per file... Before it was around 200ms...

Just to mention...

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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) schrieb:
 Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count
when
 you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

 The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
 something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Tilbrook
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Sun May 13 13:53:22 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

 Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
 the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

 If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database
server
 on the same box, system RAM, etc.

 CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
 code or trying to use CF as a database server.




 



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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Gert Franz
Well after you have seen it, I guess you don't have to be convinced 
anymore... :-)

No, no... Just us that, what is best suited for you...

Gert

Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) schrieb:
 Perhaps you can try to convince me in Edinburgh at the end of the month :-)

 As it stands though, if a switch was to happen it would be to Bluedragon.NET
 so you have some work to do..!

 Thanks for the link, will check it out.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Gert Franz
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Sun May 13 17:37:51 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 Hi Neil,

 I am still trying to convince you to try Railo :-) Since CFCompile is 
 not an option you can tweak the JVM settings for CFMX. Read more here:

 http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html
 http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/midp/articles/garbage/index.ht
 ml

 Since in Railo 1.1 we use a bytecode generator, the compiling time is 
 around only 20ms per file... Before it was around 200ms...

 Just to mention...

 Greetings / Grüsse
 Gert Franz
 Customer Care
 Railo Technologies GmbH
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 Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) schrieb:
   
 Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count
 
 when
   
 you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

 The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
 something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Tilbrook
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Sun May 13 13:53:22 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

 Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
 the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

 If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database
 
 server
   
 on the same box, system RAM, etc.

 CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
 code or trying to use CF as a database server.





 



 

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
hit the page yourself the first time as soon as you release it to cause it to 
compile so that it is ready for your users

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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:37:51 AM
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Hi Neil,

I am still trying to convince you to try Railo :-) Since CFCompile is 
not an option you can tweak the JVM settings for CFMX. Read more here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/midp/articles/garbage/index.html

Since in Railo 1.1 we use a bytecode generator, the compiling time is 
around only 20ms per file... Before it was around 200ms...

Just to mention...

Greetings / Grüsse
Gert Franz
Customer Care
Railo Technologies GmbH
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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) schrieb:
 Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count when
 you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

 The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
 something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Tilbrook
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Sun May 13 13:53:22 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

 Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
 the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

 If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database server
 on the same box, system RAM, etc.

 CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
 code or trying to use CF as a database server.




 



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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Erm, yes I know that but this is actually speeding up that process.


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To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sun May 13 20:33:03 2007
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

hit the page yourself the first time as soon as you release it to cause it
to compile so that it is ready for your users

- Original Message 
From: Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:37:51 AM
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Hi Neil,

I am still trying to convince you to try Railo :-) Since CFCompile is 
not an option you can tweak the JVM settings for CFMX. Read more here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/midp/articles/garbage/index.ht
ml

Since in Railo 1.1 we use a bytecode generator, the compiling time is 
around only 20ms per file... Before it was around 200ms...

Just to mention...

Greetings / Grüsse
Gert Franz
Customer Care
Railo Technologies GmbH
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) schrieb:
 Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count
when
 you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

 The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
 something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Tilbrook
 To: CF-Talk
 Sent: Sun May 13 13:53:22 2007
 Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

 As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

 Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
 the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

 If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database
server
 on the same box, system RAM, etc.

 CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
 code or trying to use CF as a database server.




 





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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Also, these pages are created/viewed on the fly from within the CMS.


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To: CF-Talk
Sent: Sun May 13 20:33:03 2007
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

hit the page yourself the first time as soon as you release it to cause it
to compile so that it is ready for your users

- Original Message 
From: Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 9:37:51 AM
Subject: Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

Hi Neil,

I am still trying to convince you to try Railo :-) Since CFCompile is 
not an option you can tweak the JVM settings for CFMX. Read more here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html
http://developers.sun.com/techtopics/mobility/midp/articles/garbage/index.ht
ml

Since in Railo 1.1 we use a bytecode generator, the compiling time is 
around only 20ms per file... Before it was around 200ms...

Just to mention...

Greetings / Grüsse
Gert Franz
Customer Care
Railo Technologies GmbH
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 Yeah, It's not a huge deal as noted, but the extra millisecs all count
when
 you have x number of users adding content/pages to the site via the CMS.

 The setup is pretty beefy, so I don't think it's that, it's no doubt
 something I will have to live with :-( until ColdFusion flies!





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 As CF improves, markedly of late, this should not be an issue.

 Yes CF seems to take ages to execute the first template upon a restart (as
 the libraries are loaded) but after that it flies.

 If you are having issues I would look at your setup - is the database
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 CF is getting faster and faster but will not help with not quite right
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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Maybe you can schedule a task to hit the page so it's compiled?

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RE: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Paul Vernon
 Erm, yes I know that but this is actually speeding up that process.

Why not use CFHTTP to call the page when you save it? Seems straightforward
enough...

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Nope, can't be done as noted, the page is built and requested on the fly. 




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Maybe you can schedule a task to hit the page so it's compiled?

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Will Tomlinson
Nope, can't be done as noted, the page is built and requested on the fly. 

Then you're just out of luck on this one guy? :)

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Re: Speeding up first hit compile time

2007-05-13 Thread Andy Allan
I'd say you just need to live with it ... if the miliseconds are
precious, look at other areas instead.

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 Nope, can't be done as noted, the page is built and requested on the fly.

 Then you're just out of luck on this one guy? :)

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