RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine .

2003-03-09 Thread Debbie Dickerson
Also, when JRun starts, it does a reverse lookup to match against your local host name 
definition and compares it to the one in DNS, therefore, your hostname must be set to 
your machines actual DNS entry. Otherwise JRun will not start, and the connector will 
fail.


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts
To: CF-Talk
Sent: 3/8/2003 7:10 PM
Subject: RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine .

 09/03 12:17:03 error Could not connect to any JRun servers 
 on host localhost.

Are you running any kind of personal firewall software? If so, you may
need
to disable it or exclude the ports used by JRun (which escape me
offhand).
There's a technote on the MM site which lists all the ports used by JRun
and
CFMX, but I don't recall the URL offhand.

If you can't find the technote, you can determine the listening ports
with
the newest version of TCPView from the great guys at
http://www.sysinternals.com/. I just found this latest version the other
day. It lists the open ports, as well as what's listening at each port.
The
old version just did this for WinXP, but the new version works on Win2K
also. According to TCPView, on my machine running CFMX Enterprise
against
IIS 5, JRun is listening on these ports: 1357, 2522, 2901, 8103, 8500
(I've
got the JRun web server running too) and 51010, and the SequeLink
services
(ODBC Agent and ODBC Server) are listening on 19997 and 19998
respectively.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine .

2003-03-09 Thread Chris Kief
Also, when JRun starts, it does a reverse lookup to match against your
local host name definition and compares it to the one in DNS, therefore,
your hostname must be set to your machines actual DNS entry. Otherwise JRun
will not start, and the connector will fail.

This seems to be the problem that Mike is having - JRun can't be found on
localhost when the reverse lookup is done - thus implying a dns
configuration error.

I'm not a dns guru by any means...so maybe someone on the list could
possibly post or direct us to some documentation on checking his dns
configuration.

chris


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Re: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

2003-03-08 Thread Frank Mamone
Michael,

Sorry to hear that it's still not working.  Did you try getting using
install package from someone else in the group?

-Frank

- Original Message -
From: Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:39 PM
Subject: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.


 I really appreciate all the help you guys have given me, specially Chris
 Kief who did a remote session on my desktop yesterday, and Dave Watts
 who has suggest numerous things ... but none of it helps me connect CFMX
 to IIs.

 Here's what I'm up to now ..

 I have installed CFMX and can operate under the CFMX web server on port
 8500.   That's cool. But I can't get it to connect to IIs, and the fault
 is in the package I downloaded from Macromedia's site.  Don't tell me
 different because I have seen it a dozen times now.

 What happens is that the install package extracts a file called
 jrunwin32.dll which gets a create timestamp as at the moment it's
 extracted from the install package.  Later, when you need to connect to
 IIs, the following message is logged when the connect routine aborts:

 [quote]
 C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
 C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
 [/quote]

 This means that none of the following events in that routine occurs,
 including creating a folder called \1\ which is supposed to contain
 jrun.dll. The file jrunwin32.dll is included in the download. It is
 extracted by the install routine, which promptly falls over on its own
 file.  THAT is a flaw in the install routine, surely. It's nothing to do
 with my machine.  Isnt that correct? Or am I reading it wrong?  Surely
 this is a fault in the package I downloaded from Macromedia.


 However, jrun is actually running on my system.  I don't know why
 because it didn't exist before the install of CFMX.


 Dave Watts suggested I treat the wsconfig.jar as a zip compressed
 archive and extract the single file I need, jrun.dll and do the job
 manually. I'm about to give that another go, but that archive contains
 614 files.  If I only use the one of them, what about all the others?
 What were they all there for if I don't need them?


 Frankly, the only reason I'm persisting with this is because I NEED to
 have ColdFusion.  IF I was really evaluating this to see if ColdFusion
 would be a good technology for my company to use, I'd have dumped it
 ages ago.  Surely an evaluation copy of a program should be the one that
 is the most trouble-free.   There is no trouble shooting stuff in the
 docs, the whole assumption is that everything is going to work perfectly
 and no hint as to what you should do if it doesn't.

 I don't know what I'm going to do now, since I can't connect it to IIs.




 
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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine .

2003-03-08 Thread Dave Watts
 Dave Watts suggested I treat the wsconfig.jar as a zip 
 compressed archive and extract the single file I need, 
 jrun.dll and do the job manually. I'm about to give 
 that another go, but that archive contains 614 files.  
 If I only use the one of them, what about all the others?
 What were they all there for if I don't need them?

There are files for each different web server that CFMX can work with, I
guess. Plus, wsconfig.jar is essentially a Java program, so it has a bunch
of class files that contain the program instructions.

I haven't used this technique to get CFMX to work with IIS, but I did do it
for Apache 2.0.43 after applying CFMX Updater 2 on a test machine.

Out of curiosity, have you applied any of the updaters? You might want to
try applying Updater 2, then connecting to IIS.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

2003-03-08 Thread Chris Kief
I have installed CFMX and can operate under the CFMX web server on port
8500.   That's cool. But I can't get it to connect to IIs, and the fault
is in the package I downloaded from Macromedia's site.  Don't tell me
different because I have seen it a dozen times now.

What happens is that the install package extracts a file called
jrunwin32.dll which gets a create timestamp as at the moment it's
extracted from the install package.  Later, when you need to connect to
IIs, the following message is logged when the connect routine aborts:

[quote]
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
[/quote]

This means that none of the following events in that routine occurs,
including creating a folder called \1\ which is supposed to contain
jrun.dll. The file jrunwin32.dll is included in the download. It is
extracted by the install routine, which promptly falls over on its own
file.  THAT is a flaw in the install routine, surely. It's nothing to do
with my machine.  Isnt that correct? Or am I reading it wrong?  Surely
this is a fault in the package I downloaded from Macromedia.


Mike - please paste the rest of the log file from:

C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\wsconfig.log

As I stated last night in my email to the list, this is *NOT* an error. When
you run wsconfig.exe for the first time, this file is extracted. On
subsequent runs, it checks to see if the file has been extracted before, if
it has, it prints out the message above and moves on to check for the
existence of JRun on localhost. From what I saw last night, your actual
error is in the log file right below what you quoted above...so let's see
the entire contents of that log file :)

You can even delete the entire wsconfig directory
(C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\) if you wish! The connector will just
create a new one for you along with jrunwin32.dll the next time it is run.

So again, the quote above is *NOT* an error. It's completely normal
behavior.


However, jrun is actually running on my system.  I don't know why
because it didn't exist before the install of CFMX.

Correct - a version of JRun is installed as part of CFMX.


We'll get this sorted yet! :)
chris


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Re: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

2003-03-08 Thread samcfug
This is an incredible display of community where Chris, and Dave draw upon their
own expertise and take the time out of their busy schedules to help work out
issues experiences by a fellow user.
None of these guys are employees of the publisher, and are not getting paid for
their help, but both have appeared, as evidenced by posts over the past couple
of days shown their determination to stick with a very frustrated user, with a
goal of helping him through his roadblock.
While I , and probably several others have not experienced problems such as the
one being worked through, it is really heart-warming to know that people like
this are members of our chosen trade.
The least I can do is to give kudos to both of you, I know the problem is not an
insurmountable one, and that you will guide the user through it until it is
finally resolved, and even beyond that, that he understands what is taking place
on his system.  He will be the better for it, and perhaps will make himself
available in the future to return the favor.
We all are gaining by this experience.  So Thanks guys!

=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 7:39 PM
Subject: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.


| I really appreciate all the help you guys have given me, specially Chris
| Kief who did a remote session on my desktop yesterday, and Dave Watts
| who has suggest numerous things ... but none of it helps me connect CFMX
| to IIs.
|
| Here's what I'm up to now ..
|
| I have installed CFMX and can operate under the CFMX web server on port
| 8500.   That's cool. But I can't get it to connect to IIs, and the fault
| is in the package I downloaded from Macromedia's site.  Don't tell me
| different because I have seen it a dozen times now.
|
| What happens is that the install package extracts a file called
| jrunwin32.dll which gets a create timestamp as at the moment it's
| extracted from the install package.  Later, when you need to connect to
| IIs, the following message is logged when the connect routine aborts:
|
| [quote]
| C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
| C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
| [/quote]
|
| This means that none of the following events in that routine occurs,
| including creating a folder called \1\ which is supposed to contain
| jrun.dll. The file jrunwin32.dll is included in the download. It is
| extracted by the install routine, which promptly falls over on its own
| file.  THAT is a flaw in the install routine, surely. It's nothing to do
| with my machine.  Isnt that correct? Or am I reading it wrong?  Surely
| this is a fault in the package I downloaded from Macromedia.
|
|
| However, jrun is actually running on my system.  I don't know why
| because it didn't exist before the install of CFMX.
|
|
| Dave Watts suggested I treat the wsconfig.jar as a zip compressed
| archive and extract the single file I need, jrun.dll and do the job
| manually. I'm about to give that another go, but that archive contains
| 614 files.  If I only use the one of them, what about all the others?
| What were they all there for if I don't need them?
|
|
| Frankly, the only reason I'm persisting with this is because I NEED to
| have ColdFusion.  IF I was really evaluating this to see if ColdFusion
| would be a good technology for my company to use, I'd have dumped it
| ages ago.  Surely an evaluation copy of a program should be the one that
| is the most trouble-free.   There is no trouble shooting stuff in the
| docs, the whole assumption is that everything is going to work perfectly
| and no hint as to what you should do if it doesn't.
|
| I don't know what I'm going to do now, since I can't connect it to IIs.
|
|
|
|
| 
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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Kear
Here is the whole log file then Chris .

[quote]
# Created by JRun on 09/03 12:17:02
09/03 12:17:02 info Macromedia JRun 4 (Build 47304)
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.name: Windows 2000
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.version: 5.1
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.arch: x86
09/03 12:17:02 debug platform: intel-win
09/03 12:17:02 debug web server: IIS
09/03 12:17:02 debug File
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
09/03 12:17:03 error Could not connect to any JRun servers on host
localhost.
Confirm that the JRun server is started.
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstallerException: Could not connect
to any JRun servers on host localhost.
Confirm that the JRun server is started.
at jrunx.connectorinstaller.CIJndi.findServers(CIJndi.java:343)
at jrunx.connectorinstaller.CIJndi.init(CIJndi.java:87)
at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.parseArgs(ConnectorInstaller
.java:153)
at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.init(ConnectorInstaller.ja
va:52)
at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.main(ConnectorInstaller.java
:456)
[/quote]


-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2003 1:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install
routine.

I have installed CFMX and can operate under the CFMX web server on port
8500.   That's cool. But I can't get it to connect to IIs, and the
fault
is in the package I downloaded from Macromedia's site.  Don't tell me
different because I have seen it a dozen times now.

What happens is that the install package extracts a file called
jrunwin32.dll which gets a create timestamp as at the moment it's
extracted from the install package.  Later, when you need to connect to
IIs, the following message is logged when the connect routine aborts:

[quote]
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
[/quote]

This means that none of the following events in that routine occurs,
including creating a folder called \1\ which is supposed to contain
jrun.dll. The file jrunwin32.dll is included in the download. It is
extracted by the install routine, which promptly falls over on its own
file.  THAT is a flaw in the install routine, surely. It's nothing to
do
with my machine.  Isnt that correct? Or am I reading it wrong?  Surely
this is a fault in the package I downloaded from Macromedia.


Mike - please paste the rest of the log file from:

C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\wsconfig.log

As I stated last night in my email to the list, this is *NOT* an error.
When
you run wsconfig.exe for the first time, this file is extracted. On
subsequent runs, it checks to see if the file has been extracted before,
if
it has, it prints out the message above and moves on to check for the
existence of JRun on localhost. From what I saw last night, your actual
error is in the log file right below what you quoted above...so let's
see
the entire contents of that log file :)

You can even delete the entire wsconfig directory
(C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\) if you wish! The connector will
just
create a new one for you along with jrunwin32.dll the next time it is
run.

So again, the quote above is *NOT* an error. It's completely normal
behavior.


However, jrun is actually running on my system.  I don't know why
because it didn't exist before the install of CFMX.

Correct - a version of JRun is installed as part of CFMX.


We'll get this sorted yet! :)
chris



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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

2003-03-08 Thread Chris Kief
[quote]
# Created by JRun on 09/03 12:17:02
09/03 12:17:02 info Macromedia JRun 4 (Build 47304)
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.name: Windows 2000
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.version: 5.1
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.arch: x86
09/03 12:17:02 debug platform: intel-win
09/03 12:17:02 debug web server: IIS
09/03 12:17:02 debug File
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted

---
everything is fine up to this point
---

The following is what is killing things:

09/03 12:17:03 error Could not connect to any JRun servers on host
localhost.
Confirm that the JRun server is started.
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstallerException: Could not connect
to any JRun servers on host localhost.
Confirm that the JRun server is started.
   at jrunx.connectorinstaller.CIJndi.findServers(CIJndi.java:343)
   at jrunx.connectorinstaller.CIJndi.init(CIJndi.java:87)
   at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.parseArgs(ConnectorInstaller
.java:153)
   at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.init(ConnectorInstaller.ja
va:52)
   at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.main(ConnectorInstaller.java
:456)
[/quote]

The connector is unable to find JRun running on localhost - *even* though it
is running - as can be seen with the fact that he can use the stand alone
web server just fine.

Anyone else run across the above error before?

chris


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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine .

2003-03-08 Thread Dave Watts
 09/03 12:17:03 error Could not connect to any JRun servers 
 on host localhost.

Are you running any kind of personal firewall software? If so, you may need
to disable it or exclude the ports used by JRun (which escape me offhand).
There's a technote on the MM site which lists all the ports used by JRun and
CFMX, but I don't recall the URL offhand.

If you can't find the technote, you can determine the listening ports with
the newest version of TCPView from the great guys at
http://www.sysinternals.com/. I just found this latest version the other
day. It lists the open ports, as well as what's listening at each port. The
old version just did this for WinXP, but the new version works on Win2K
also. According to TCPView, on my machine running CFMX Enterprise against
IIS 5, JRun is listening on these ports: 1357, 2522, 2901, 8103, 8500 (I've
got the JRun web server running too) and 51010, and the SequeLink services
(ODBC Agent and ODBC Server) are listening on 19997 and 19998 respectively.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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