RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-06 Thread James Watkins
I run LDAP, Webservices, and XML. Java Version 1.4.2_05 with MX version
7,0,1,116466 on Windows 2003  and have some Java crashes.  I would like
to know if I upgrade to _09 will it cause issues?



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Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

Just to be sure (and safe - we live and die on XML here) - as long as I
stick with upgrading to 1.4.2_09 the only known gray area is LDAP,
right?  XML is OK?  I'll try to get a statement out of the Adobe/MM
support person about official support for LDAP with 1.4.2_09, since it
sounds like others have seen problems with the _06 through _08 versions.



>Aaaand I'm late to another thread. Sorry, didn't see your question
earlier.
>
>Scott,
>
>Java 5 is incompatible with the Apache Axis stuff that's built into CF.
>Basically, you can kiss your web services goodbye if you upgrade past
1.4.
>That fact is pretty well confirmed. I heard (but have no proof) that 
>people were having trouble with XML and LDAP as well. I did it to my 
>test server a while ago, and it was fine. Everything was running great,

>but I wasn't doing anything with XML, web services, LDAP or anything
special, really.
>
>-nathan strutz
>http://www.dopefly.com/
>
>
>
>On 4/5/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>



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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-06 Thread Leon Oosterwijk
Scott, 

I'm not nathan, but we did upgrade to 1.5 and have been running that in
production for a while now. It's very stable and after the latest jrun
updates there aren't any issues that we have experienced. We do use xml
functionality, but not really any web services so I can't tell you about
that. 

Leon
 

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Subject: RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

Nathan, 

When you upgraded to 1.5, what errors did you see?



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Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

I've upgraded my JVM a number of times, had no problems, ever. As long
as you stay in the 1.4.2 space, the _#s are just bugfixes mostly, and
you can safely upgrade on CFMX 6 or 7 (just watch out for 1.5 if you
like web services and XML). I won't say that upgrading my JVM solved
every one of my problems with servers crashing, but it did help. Really,
the way to go is to see about re-architecting your applications,
upgrading your servers (Java can use almost 2GB of RAM on a 32bit
server), or considering network load balancing.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/

On 4/5/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the 
> past 7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per 
> day).  We opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config 
> changes they suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the 
> client var database from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the 
> frequency and nature of
the
> crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently 
> running out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in
it's tracks.
The
> latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of 
> the JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
>
> Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
>
> TIA,
> Reed
>
> 





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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-06 Thread powell
Just to be sure (and safe - we live and die on XML here) - as long as I stick 
with upgrading to 1.4.2_09 the only known gray area is LDAP, right?  XML is OK? 
 I'll try to get a statement out of the Adobe/MM support person about official 
support for LDAP with 1.4.2_09, since it sounds like others have seen problems 
with the _06 through _08 versions.



>Aaaand I'm late to another thread. Sorry, didn't see your question earlier.
>
>Scott,
>
>Java 5 is incompatible with the Apache Axis stuff that's built into CF.
>Basically, you can kiss your web services goodbye if you upgrade past 1.4.
>That fact is pretty well confirmed. I heard (but have no proof) that people
>were having trouble with XML and LDAP as well. I did it to my test server a
>while ago, and it was fine. Everything was running great, but I wasn't doing
>anything with XML, web services, LDAP or anything special, really.
>
>-nathan strutz
>http://www.dopefly.com/
>
>
>
>On 4/5/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>

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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
Aaaand I'm late to another thread. Sorry, didn't see your question earlier.

Scott,

Java 5 is incompatible with the Apache Axis stuff that's built into CF.
Basically, you can kiss your web services goodbye if you upgrade past 1.4.
That fact is pretty well confirmed. I heard (but have no proof) that people
were having trouble with XML and LDAP as well. I did it to my test server a
while ago, and it was fine. Everything was running great, but I wasn't doing
anything with XML, web services, LDAP or anything special, really.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/



On 4/5/06, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Nathan,
>
> When you upgraded to 1.5, what errors did you see?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
>
> Scott A. Stewart
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> GlobalNet Services, Inc
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> From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09
>
> I've upgraded my JVM a number of times, had no problems, ever. As long as
> you stay in the 1.4.2 space, the _#s are just bugfixes mostly, and you can
> safely upgrade on CFMX 6 or 7 (just watch out for 1.5 if you like web
> services and XML). I won't say that upgrading my JVM solved every one of
> my
> problems with servers crashing, but it did help. Really, the way to go is
> to
> see about re-architecting your applications, upgrading your servers (Java
> can use almost 2GB of RAM on a 32bit server), or considering network load
> balancing.
>
> -nathan strutz
> http://www.dopefly.com/
>
> On 4/5/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the past
> > 7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per
> day).  We
> > opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config changes they
> > suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the client var
> database
> > from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the frequency and nature of
> the
> > crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently
> running
> > out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in it's tracks.
> The
> > latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of the
> > JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
> >
> > Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
> >
> > TIA,
> > Reed
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 

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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 4/5/06, Douglas Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes, AFAIK, JVM releases > _05  breaks CFLDAP.
>

Well, this is the one question that I have, seeing as Adobe has upped
the supported JVM. I highly doubt that they would support _09 if they
knew CFLDAP flat-out broke, no? Does this mean CFLDAP works in _09 due
to some underlying JVM bug fix made?

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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Ian Skinner
Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well? 
Perhaps it is even better?


Viable - maybe.  Official - NO!  So use at your own risk.


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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Douglas Knudsen
yes, AFAIK, JVM releases > _05  breaks CFLDAP.

DK

On 4/5/06, Dave Carabetta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> > Perhaps it is even better?
> >
>
> We're testing it in our staging environment, and it works just fine
> (we're using web services, cfhttp, etc., so it's getting a good
> workout). However, a potentially big caveat is that we do not use
> CFLDAP, which is known to have issues with later versions of the 1.4.2
> JVM (I think _05 was the last revision that is known to have worked,
> and I haven't tried on _09), and I don't believe Adobe will support
> you if you call them for support (they'll make you downgrade first I
> believe).
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
> 

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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Che Vilnonis
Got it. Now I know. :)

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You can certainly use it, but Adobe only support up to _09

Andy

On 05/04/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> Perhaps it is even better?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09
>
>
> On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the
1.4.2_9
> > SDK?
> > Thanks, Che.
>
> http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
>
>
>



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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> Perhaps it is even better?
>

We're testing it in our staging environment, and it works just fine
(we're using web services, cfhttp, etc., so it's getting a good
workout). However, a potentially big caveat is that we do not use
CFLDAP, which is known to have issues with later versions of the 1.4.2
JVM (I think _05 was the last revision that is known to have worked,
and I haven't tried on _09), and I don't believe Adobe will support
you if you call them for support (they'll make you downgrade first I
believe).

Regards,
Dave.

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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Andy Allan
You can certainly use it, but Adobe only support up to _09

Andy

On 05/04/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
> Perhaps it is even better?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 2:10 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09
>
>
> On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the 1.4.2_9
> > SDK?
> > Thanks, Che.
>
> http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
>
>
> 

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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Che Vilnonis
Thanks Dave. Hey... does anyone know if 1.4.2_11 is viable to use as well?
Perhaps it is even better?

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Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09


On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the 1.4.2_9
> SDK?
> Thanks, Che.

http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/

Regards,
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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Dave Carabetta
On 4/5/06, Che Vilnonis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the 1.4.2_9
> SDK?
> Thanks, Che.

http://java.sun.com/products/archive/j2se/1.4.2_09/

Regards,
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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Che Vilnonis
Andy or anyone, do you have the direct link on Sun's site for the 1.4.2_9
SDK?
Thanks, Che.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:44 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09


Download the JDK from Sun, and install it.

Then modify your jvm.config file to point to the new location, e.g.
java.home=D:/j2sdk1.4.2_9/jre

Then restart CF. That's it.

Andy

On 05/04/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the past
7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per day).  We
opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config changes they
suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the client var database
from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the frequency and nature of the
crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently running
out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in it's tracks.  The
latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of the
JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
>
> Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
>
> TIA,
> Reed
>
>



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RE: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Scott Stewart
Nathan, 

When you upgraded to 1.5, what errors did you see?



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From: Nathan Strutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

I've upgraded my JVM a number of times, had no problems, ever. As long as
you stay in the 1.4.2 space, the _#s are just bugfixes mostly, and you can
safely upgrade on CFMX 6 or 7 (just watch out for 1.5 if you like web
services and XML). I won't say that upgrading my JVM solved every one of my
problems with servers crashing, but it did help. Really, the way to go is to
see about re-architecting your applications, upgrading your servers (Java
can use almost 2GB of RAM on a 32bit server), or considering network load
balancing.

-nathan strutz
http://www.dopefly.com/

On 4/5/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the past
> 7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per day).  We
> opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config changes they
> suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the client var database
> from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the frequency and nature of
the
> crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently running
> out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in it's tracks.
The
> latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of the
> JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
>
> Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
>
> TIA,
> Reed
>
> 



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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
I've upgraded my JVM a number of times, had no problems, ever. As long as
you stay in the 1.4.2 space, the _#s are just bugfixes mostly, and you can
safely upgrade on CFMX 6 or 7 (just watch out for 1.5 if you like web
services and XML). I won't say that upgrading my JVM solved every one of my
problems with servers crashing, but it did help. Really, the way to go is to
see about re-architecting your applications, upgrading your servers (Java
can use almost 2GB of RAM on a 32bit server), or considering network load
balancing.

-nathan strutz
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On 4/5/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the past
> 7-10 days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per day).  We
> opened a ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config changes they
> suggested for heap memory handling (and also moved the client var database
> from Access to SQL Server), and that changed the frequency and nature of the
> crashes.  The JVM crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently running
> out of memory (NT memory, not heap memory) and stopping in it's tracks.  The
> latest suggestion from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of the
> JVM, since this could in fact be a JVM bug.
>
> Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
>
> TIA,
> Reed
>
> 

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Re: Upgrading JVM to 1.4.2_09

2006-04-05 Thread Andy Allan
Download the JDK from Sun, and install it.

Then modify your jvm.config file to point to the new location, e.g.
java.home=D:/j2sdk1.4.2_9/jre

Then restart CF. That's it.

Andy

On 05/04/06, powell @ nauticom. net powell @ nauticom. net
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We've been having a rash of JVM crashes (1 per day usually) for the past 7-10 
> days.  That's better than what it was before then (4-5 per day).  We opened a 
> ticket with Adobe/MM and made some jvm.config changes they suggested for heap 
> memory handling (and also moved the client var database from Access to SQL 
> Server), and that changed the frequency and nature of the crashes.  The JVM 
> crashes we're seeing now have the JVM apparently running out of memory (NT 
> memory, not heap memory) and stopping in it's tracks.  The latest suggestion 
> from Adobe/MM is to upgrade to version 1.4.2_09 of the JVM, since this could 
> in fact be a JVM bug.
>
> Anyone out there done this and know of any gotchas before I do this?
>
> TIA,
> Reed
>
> 

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