Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
>On 1/3/07 3:12 PM, Dan Skaggs wrote: >> I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP >> upload features it gives. > >Does it support SFTP? How about multiple locations per project (e.g. one >for testing, one for production)? > Yes you can do both. You set up the SFTP when you define a synchronize connection. hth, larry ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265612 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
On Wednesday 03 January 2007 18:26, Snake wrote: > What would be handy is a quick tips list of how to do all the common things > in CFE that you do in homesite, rather than having to hunt around for the > solution. > What I really miss is the right click context menu -> insert tag or insert > Expression. > I often cannot remember all the CF functions/tags as I don't use all of > them all the time, and it was a handy way to view a list of them all and > their parameters. Open the Dictionary view. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enthusiastically incentivize B2B communities This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265606 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
Actually no, I still use CFEclipse. About the only reason I downloaded Apatana was for the FTP functions but I understand it's really good for other things too (HTML, JS etc) that I haven't had a chance to play with yet. You do not have to be in the Aptana perspective to get to the Synchronize > Upload feature as they are available from the right click menu from the CFEclipse perspective as well. >So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? >Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse >features? > >-Original Message- >From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse > >I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP >upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still >have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right >click on a file, hover over the "Synchronize" item in the menu and then >click "Upload" (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message >that insists on popping up when it's complete). > >>I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can >>double click a file and edit it. >>I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put >>file" is very quick and handy for that. >> >>Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265584 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
Yeah I believe so, or just stuck in Aptana perspective. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 22:48:35 2007 Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse So how would u use the FTP deployment, just setup the same project in both cfeclipse in Aptana and toggle between the 2 ? -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 22:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse You can edit it just like an html file, you do not get the intellisense as far as I am aware. I use Aptana for Ajax work and sometimes JS but on the whole for the latter I use Interakts plugin for that. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 21:39:05 2007 Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse features? -Original Message- From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the "Synchronize" item in the menu and then click "Upload" (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). >I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can >double click a file and edit it. >I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put >file" is very quick and handy for that. > >Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
So how would u use the FTP deployment, just setup the same project in both cfeclipse in Aptana and toggle between the 2 ? -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 22:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse You can edit it just like an html file, you do not get the intellisense as far as I am aware. I use Aptana for Ajax work and sometimes JS but on the whole for the latter I use Interakts plugin for that. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 21:39:05 2007 Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse features? -Original Message- From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the "Synchronize" item in the menu and then click "Upload" (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). >I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can >double click a file and edit it. >I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put >file" is very quick and handy for that. > >Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265566 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
On 1/3/07 3:12 PM, Dan Skaggs wrote: > I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP > upload features it gives. Does it support SFTP? How about multiple locations per project (e.g. one for testing, one for production)? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265565 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
You can edit it just like an html file, you do not get the intellisense as far as I am aware. I use Aptana for Ajax work and sometimes JS but on the whole for the latter I use Interakts plugin for that. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Snake To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 21:39:05 2007 Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse features? -Original Message- From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the "Synchronize" item in the menu and then click "Upload" (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). >I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can >double click a file and edit it. >I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put >file" is very quick and handy for that. > >Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265563 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
So do u edit your CFML in Aptana as well? Is it like cfclipse, or a plugin so you can still use the cfeclipse features? -Original Message- From: Dan Skaggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 20:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the "Synchronize" item in the menu and then click "Upload" (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). >I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can >double click a file and edit it. >I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put >file" is very quick and handy for that. > >Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265561 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I grabbed the Aptana plug-in last week and am seriously enjoying the FTP upload features it gives. It's almost as easy as the DW upload. You still have to do a configuration for each project, but once that is done you right click on a file, hover over the "Synchronize" item in the menu and then click "Upload" (however I do wish I could turn off the confirmation message that insists on popping up when it's complete). >I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can double >click a file and edit it. >I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put >file" is very quick and handy for that. > >Russ ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265559 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I still use homesite for quick edits for that very purpose, so I can double click a file and edit it. I also still use DWMX to deploy files via FTP cozz the "right click put file" is very quick and handy for that. Russ -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 19:01 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I agree... I honestly think that not being able to open a file in Eclipse by double clicking on it is a complete deal breaker. If I'm working on a site, I generally like to open a Windows Explorer window to the working directory and use that as a reference. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse What would be handy is a quick tips list of how to do all the common things in CFE that you do in homesite, rather than having to hunt around for the solution. What I really miss is the right click context menu -> insert tag or insert Expression. I often cannot remember all the CF functions/tags as I don't use all of them all the time, and it was a handy way to view a list of them all and their parameters. Russ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 17:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are > there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265557 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
To be fair, not much doesn't work :-) "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 20:28:52 2007 Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I could deal with that...this way if it doesn't work...as has been my experience with eclipse...I can hand you my laptop and say fix it instead of me getting a frustrated with it. Eric -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 03 January 2007 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I suppose it all depends on what you can use, we "force" people to use Eclipse as it is in our development practices - it has all our settings, plugins, projects etc already in a new developers laptop image. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 19:08:31 2007 Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07 1:21 PM, John Cox wrote: > I've worked with both, but I have to admit that I always come back to > EditPlus. Same here. Now if they'd just add syntax popups (ala "intellisense") it'd be even better. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265556 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
:) -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 2:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I could deal with that...this way if it doesn't work...as has been my experience with eclipse...I can hand you my laptop and say fix it instead of me getting a frustrated with it. Eric -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 03 January 2007 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I suppose it all depends on what you can use, we "force" people to use Eclipse as it is in our development practices - it has all our settings, plugins, projects etc already in a new developers laptop image. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 19:08:31 2007 Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07 1:21 PM, John Cox wrote: > I've worked with both, but I have to admit that I always come back to > EditPlus. Same here. Now if they'd just add syntax popups (ala "intellisense") it'd be even better. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:26 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I could deal with that...this way if it doesn't work...as has been my experience with eclipse...I can hand you my laptop and say fix it instead of me getting a frustrated with it. Eric -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 03 January 2007 13:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse I suppose it all depends on what you can use, we "force" people to use Eclipse as it is in our development practices - it has all our settings, plugins, projects etc already in a new developers laptop image. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 19:08:31 2007 Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07 1:21 PM, John Cox wrote: > I've worked with both, but I have to admit that I always come back to > EditPlus. Same here. Now if they'd just add syntax popups (ala "intellisense") it'd be even better. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265554 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I suppose it all depends on what you can use, we "force" people to use Eclipse as it is in our development practices - it has all our settings, plugins, projects etc already in a new developers laptop image. "This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Gateway House, 28 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DN, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions." Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Jan 03 19:08:31 2007 Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07 1:21 PM, John Cox wrote: > I've worked with both, but I have to admit that I always come back to > EditPlus. Same here. Now if they'd just add syntax popups (ala "intellisense") it'd be even better. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265551 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
On 1/3/07 1:21 PM, John Cox wrote: > I've worked with both, but I have to admit that I always come back to > EditPlus. Same here. Now if they'd just add syntax popups (ala "intellisense") it'd be even better. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265549 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I agree... I honestly think that not being able to open a file in Eclipse by double clicking on it is a complete deal breaker. If I'm working on a site, I generally like to open a Windows Explorer window to the working directory and use that as a reference. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 12:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse What would be handy is a quick tips list of how to do all the common things in CFE that you do in homesite, rather than having to hunt around for the solution. What I really miss is the right click context menu -> insert tag or insert Expression. I often cannot remember all the CF functions/tags as I don't use all of them all the time, and it was a handy way to view a list of them all and their parameters. Russ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 17:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are > there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265548 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
What would be handy is a quick tips list of how to do all the common things in CFE that you do in homesite, rather than having to hunt around for the solution. What I really miss is the right click context menu -> insert tag or insert Expression. I often cannot remember all the CF functions/tags as I don't use all of them all the time, and it was a handy way to view a list of them all and their parameters. Russ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2007 17:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are > there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265545 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Damien... > > You're not helping me switch to Eclipse...you're just making me want to > stick with EditPlus!!! LOL I've worked with both, but I have to admit that I always come back to EditPlus. I guess I am just a little old school, since I went for years using VI, but EditPlus is quick, simple, has the majority of the tools that I need, and it doesn't have a cluttered interface (no offense to the Eclipse users). I'd say work with Eclipse for a month. If you feel comfortable using it, then use it. If you don't, use EditPlus. It isn't about the bells and whistles, it's about what makes you most productive. ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265543 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
Thanks Charlie! I'll check into these links. -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are > there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
Damien... You're not helping me switch to Eclipse...you're just making me want to stick with EditPlus!!! LOL I didn't even know that there was a new release. I've always thought that the team/guy just stopped development at 2.21. I've been lusting after DW8 and Eclipse's code-folding since I first saw it. I might just see if I can keep using EP after all. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 11:17 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse On 1/3/07 11:57 AM, Andy Matthews wrote: > Is there anyone who has specifically switched from EP to Eclipse who > could give me some pointers? Sure. Editplus is a very clean editor that just feels right with its basic functionality, and the code folding in 2.30 is great. Eclipse has some basic problems as an editor and will grate on you for a while until you either learn to deal with them or have a seizure ;-) I've used EditPlus since the v1.2 days and quickly upgraded to v2 when it was released. Of all of the text editors for Windows that I've tried it has been the one that has been easiest to use and has "felt right". Its great. On OSX I've been using skEdit which is also great (the v4 betas are shaping up nicely), but am also going to (again) look at TextMate but I don't like its lack of general syntax popups rather it relies on insertion shortcut "bundles" for all the cool stuff. One of Eclipse's main faults is its speed. EditPlus, skEdit and TextMate all *fly*, even on low-end systems, but Eclipse can bring pretty beefy machines to their knees with large files. > Secondly, are there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Not that I'm aware of. Anyone else? > Some of the things I'm looking for are: > . The ability to double click a file and have it open in Eclipse. Not possible. > . Ability to define two projects > . My local web root for personal code/testing > . Our main code repository I don't see what the problem is with this? Just create as many projects as you need? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265541 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
On 1/3/07, Andy Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are there some > good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Robert Blackburn did some articles for Fusion Authority: http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4599-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-I.htm http://fusionauthority.com/Techniques/4607-CFEclipse-CFExplained-Part-II.htm Mark Drew (the man himself) has some video podcast tutorials: http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2006/5/2/podcast_01 FWIW, i tried to get into Eclipse (and CFEclipse) after using CF Studio/HS+ for ages. I quit after about a week and went back to HS+. A lil' while later, people were still talking about Eclipse and CFE so I forced myself to go back. And it took a good few weeks of forcing myself. Now, I couldn't even imagine using another IDE. Love the plugins (using CFEclipse (obviously), Aptana plugin for CSS, and JSEclipse for JavaScript). Takes getting used to, but I think it's well worth the investment. -- Charlie Griefer "...All the world shall be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with a swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed." ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265540 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
On 1/3/07 11:57 AM, Andy Matthews wrote: > Is there anyone who has specifically switched from EP to Eclipse who could > give me some pointers? Sure. Editplus is a very clean editor that just feels right with its basic functionality, and the code folding in 2.30 is great. Eclipse has some basic problems as an editor and will grate on you for a while until you either learn to deal with them or have a seizure ;-) I've used EditPlus since the v1.2 days and quickly upgraded to v2 when it was released. Of all of the text editors for Windows that I've tried it has been the one that has been easiest to use and has "felt right". Its great. On OSX I've been using skEdit which is also great (the v4 betas are shaping up nicely), but am also going to (again) look at TextMate but I don't like its lack of general syntax popups rather it relies on insertion shortcut "bundles" for all the cool stuff. One of Eclipse's main faults is its speed. EditPlus, skEdit and TextMate all *fly*, even on low-end systems, but Eclipse can bring pretty beefy machines to their knees with large files. > Secondly, are there some good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? Not that I'm aware of. Anyone else? > Some of the things I'm looking for are: > . The ability to double click a file and have it open in Eclipse. Not possible. > . Ability to define two projects > . My local web root for personal code/testing > . Our main code repository I don't see what the problem is with this? Just create as many projects as you need? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265537 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Using Eclipse/CFEclipse
I never used EP but switched from Homesite to CFEclipse. In your file system settings just set the default editor for .cfm and .cfc files as eclipse. As far as projects go, eclipse is good about it. Create a project, right click on it and add a folder. In the window that comes up, click advanced options and map the folder to a network drive or other directory available to your local OS Andy Matthews wrote: > So I recently started a new job with a company who use Eclipse as their IDE. > I've tried it before but never found it to my liking. So I'm going to take > the plunge and jump in with both feet. My old IDE was Editplus with a fairly > high level of configuration. Is there anyone who has specifically switched > from EP to Eclipse who could give me some pointers? Secondly, are there some > good basic tutorials on using Eclipse? > > Some of the things I'm looking for are: > . The ability to double click a file and have it open in Eclipse. > . Ability to define two projects > . My local web root for personal code/testing > . Our main code repository > > So anyway, anything you guys could give me to help in the transition would > be greatly appreciated. > > Regards > > Andy Matthews > Senior Coldfusion Developer > > Office: 877.707.5467 x865 > Direct: 615.627.9865 > Fax: 615.467.6249 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > www.dealerskins.com > > > > ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;56760587;14748456;a?http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=LVNU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:265536 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
