RE: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 01:25 PM 7/29/02 -0400, Tony Weeg wrote:
>mike.
>
>im sorry to chime in again, about your list. but this list is really
>sporadic, and you flamed me

Actually, the list is very rarely sporadic where I am.  (It is less 
sporadic than any of my other lists.)  So I would guess that something is 
being dropped between the list server and yours, and is possibly neither's 
fault.

T

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Re: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz

I don't think I flamed you but instead suggested that it may have been a new filter. 
That's besides the point. I am working on the server and trying to move it to a whole 
new setup. It's slow work because of time and money. Now that all of the list archives 
are in the new setup I can finalize how the mail is being handled. 
But again, this is besides the point. The majority of the list participants have no 
problems with their mail unless the server gets hung. No double posts, no delays, etc. 
Some, such as you, may get doubles on a regular basis. What I suggest is sending me 
the headers of all such doubles so I can check them out. 
Also, as you run your own server, can you check out the address that you have 
subscribed. No aliases, no passing of messages, no forwarding, nothing funky going on? 
This is not asked as any sort of attack or flame but as an honest attempt to find and 
deal with the problem. 
I'll be watching the deferred directory to see if your domain comes up and if it does, 
what the error message is. 


> mike.
> 
> im sorry to chime in again, about your list. but this list is really
> sporadic, and you flamed me
> when I asked the question.  no one is downing your list, but please,
> really, just accept
> the fact that there are issues with this mailing list, and lets all, as
> a community help fix it.
> im sure there is plenty of talent on this list to look into the issue.
> 
> and just to make sure, I know that my mail server is fine, I manage my
> own, and get email
> all day long, instantaneously from all parts of the world!
> 
> just trying to help.
> 
> ..tony
> 
> Tony Weeg
> Senior Web Developer
> Information System Design
> Navtrak, Inc.
> Fleet Management Solutions
> www.navtrak.net
> 410.548.2337 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: anyone having list troubles ? 
> 
> 
> Whoops, forgot the list of potential problems. :)
> Reason: Unknown
> Reason: Server failed (MAIL)
> Reason: Couldn't establish SMTP connection on port 25
> Reason: Server failed (all recipients deferred)
> Reason: Server failed (end of DATA)
> Reason: Server closed SMTP connection (end of DATA) 
> Reason: Server timed out (DATA) (1 message(s))
> Reason: MX lookup failure
> 
> Reason: Server failed (MAIL)
> 
> 
> Michael Dinowitz
> Master of the House of Fusion
> http://www.houseoffusion.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Craig Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:51 AM
> Subject: anyone having list troubles ? 
> 
> 
> > Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list 
> > sporadically. The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > (suject: Re: Issue: Update a tracker database with an index.html file.
> 
> > content: "Assumptions can make an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP 
> > insists my mail server is ok.  Before I hassle them, have there been 
> > any posts since then?
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> > -Craig
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Tony Weeg

mike.

im sorry to chime in again, about your list. but this list is really
sporadic, and you flamed me
when I asked the question.  no one is downing your list, but please,
really, just accept
the fact that there are issues with this mailing list, and lets all, as
a community help fix it.
im sure there is plenty of talent on this list to look into the issue.

and just to make sure, I know that my mail server is fine, I manage my
own, and get email
all day long, instantaneously from all parts of the world!

just trying to help.

..tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Fleet Management Solutions
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 1:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: anyone having list troubles ? 


Whoops, forgot the list of potential problems. :)
Reason: Unknown
Reason: Server failed (MAIL)
Reason: Couldn't establish SMTP connection on port 25
Reason: Server failed (all recipients deferred)
Reason: Server failed (end of DATA)
Reason: Server closed SMTP connection (end of DATA) 
Reason: Server timed out (DATA) (1 message(s))
Reason: MX lookup failure

Reason: Server failed (MAIL)


Michael Dinowitz
Master of the House of Fusion
http://www.houseoffusion.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:51 AM
Subject: anyone having list troubles ? 


> Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list 
> sporadically. The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> (suject: Re: Issue: Update a tracker database with an index.html file.

> content: "Assumptions can make an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP 
> insists my mail server is ok.  Before I hassle them, have there been 
> any posts since then?
> 
> TIA
> 
> -Craig
> 
> 

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Re: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz

Whoops, forgot the list of potential problems. :)
Reason: Unknown
Reason: Server failed (MAIL)
Reason: Couldn't establish SMTP connection on port 25
Reason: Server failed (all recipients deferred)
Reason: Server failed (end of DATA)
Reason: Server closed SMTP connection (end of DATA) 
Reason: Server timed out (DATA) (1 message(s))
Reason: MX lookup failure

Reason: Server failed (MAIL)


Michael Dinowitz
Master of the House of Fusion
http://www.houseoffusion.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Craig Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:51 AM
Subject: anyone having list troubles ? 


> Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list sporadically.
> The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suject: Re: Issue: Update
> a tracker database with an index.html file. content: "Assumptions can make
> an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP insists my mail server is ok.  Before
> I hassle them, have there been any posts since then?
> 
> TIA
> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
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Re: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz

The HoF server tries to send a post as soon as it receives it. If it can't send, then 
the mail gets cached till later. The cache is tried every hour till it can be sent or 
I clean it out. Some examples of the connection error messages are:

I'm not saying that these errors are always on your or anyone else's side. All I'm 
saying is that the connection between the HoF server and the 'other' mail server has a 
problem for some reason. When you think that your missing your fix and that something 
is up, you can always just go to www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists to see what the latest 
messages are.


> Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list sporadically.
> The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suject: Re: Issue: Update
> a tracker database with an index.html file. content: "Assumptions can make
> an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP insists my mail server is ok.  Before
> I hassle them, have there been any posts since then?
> 
> TIA
> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
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RE: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Dan Haley

Sorry, didn't answer your question ... yes, there have been quite a few
posts since then ... 

-Original Message-
From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: anyone having list troubles ? 


Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list sporadically.
The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suject: Re: Issue: Update
a tracker database with an index.html file. content: "Assumptions can make
an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP insists my mail server is ok.  Before
I hassle them, have there been any posts since then?

TIA

-Craig


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RE: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Dan Haley

I see that same problem sometimes ... the other day I received 100 list
emails at one time, but the threads had continued while I wasn't getting
them, so the list server was working fine ... and of course my admin says
there's no problem here!

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 8:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: anyone having list troubles ? 


Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list sporadically.
The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suject: Re: Issue: Update
a tracker database with an index.html file. content: "Assumptions can make
an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP insists my mail server is ok.  Before
I hassle them, have there been any posts since then?

TIA

-Craig


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RE: anyone having list troubles ?

2002-07-29 Thread Jillian Carroll

Yours :)

-Original Message-
From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 9:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: anyone having list troubles ?


Sorry for the OT post, but I seem to be receiving this list sporadically.
The last post I received was from [EMAIL PROTECTED] (suject: Re: Issue: Update
a tracker database with an index.html file. content: "Assumptions can make
an ass out of u and me... :)") My ISP insists my mail server is ok.  Before
I hassle them, have there been any posts since then?

TIA

-Craig


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