RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Dave Watts
 I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping 
 somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do 
 these 2 things:
 
 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title 
 bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible 
 and not being able to get the full path from file properties, 
 etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what 
 I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with 
 the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
 2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed 
 files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004; I
have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
behaviors make sense.

When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you shouldn't
have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files actually
are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within your
site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
file you're actually working on.

Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update files
dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references to
that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
though.

A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
take a look at it.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title bar. Having
 only the file name and the last directory visible and not being able
 to get the full path from file properties, etc. makes it really
 difficult for me to keep track of what I'm doing, especially when I've
 got more than one site with the same directory and I need to know
 which site I'm editing.

It's not possible out of the box. I know somebody created his own custom
toolbar with a text field that show the full path. A little bit of an hack,
but it does the job :-)


Massimo Foti
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Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Calvin Ward
I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
 was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Cast your vote:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/


Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Yes this is one of the features I quite liked in CFstudio anyone know if
this has been included in the new Dreamweaver?

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 14:20
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
 
 While we are on DW subject...
 
 I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
 different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
way
 to
 go.
 
 One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
 It
 was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
 
 Rick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
 I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.
 
 Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative
path
 based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
 directory, so a file that looks like this:
 
 C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
 myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX
and
 2004:
 
 myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)
 
 If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
 would
 be reasonable :)
 
 I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
(Windows
 only) in a toolbar...
 
 HTH,
 Calvin
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
 Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
 
 
   I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
   somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
   these 2 things:
  
   1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
   bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
   and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
   etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
   I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
   the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
  
   2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
   files? dialog when I remove or rename files.
 
  First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with
DWMX
 2004;
 I
  have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
 
  Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
  suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do
that.
  However, within the site-based work style encouraged by
Dreamweaver,
 these
  behaviors make sense.
 
  When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you
don't
 have
  to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
 Dreamweaver
  provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
 shouldn't
  have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
 actually
  are - after all, you may have local and remote site information
within
 your
  site definition, and those paths may well change between the two.
It
 would
  be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site
containing
 the
  file you're actually working on.
 
  Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the
Update
 files
  dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
 references
 to
  that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem
browser
  instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
 Dreamweaver,
  though.
 
  A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of
working,
 and
  if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it
may
 be
  less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML,
and
 for
  managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it
less
  helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004
 deemphasizes
  the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may
want
 to
  take a look at it.
 
  Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
  http://www.figleaf.com/
  voice: (202) 797-5496
  fax: (202) 797-5444
 
 
 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
 It
  was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
 
 Cast your vote:
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
 2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
 supported?
 
 . Split code view

No

 . Collapsible code

No

 . Code templates
 . Bookmarks
 . Search and save as a file

Do you mind explnain the 3 above? 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Bailey, Neal
Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, Code, Split
and Design. Click on Split to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, Code, Split
and Design. Click on Split to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 



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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
1) Code Templates

If you mean the ability to create and load templates to use as new files
then the Dreamweaver does support this.

2) Search and save as a file

If you mean the ability to save search/replace queries and load them
again at a later point then yes, Dreamweaver does support this.

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
 It
  was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
 
 Cast your vote:
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 



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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
 
  . Code templates

Associating code to keywords as in cfstudio - e.g. if you have a code
template associated with the word header after typing the keyword
header and hitting ctrl-j the code will be inserted. In my view this
is much more flexible than assigning code to shortcut key combinations.

  . Bookmarks

In cfstudio - ctrl-k will place a numbered marker at that particular
line. Ctrl-shift-k will then jump to all numbered markers. Allows you to
quickly jump to a section of code without doing a search.

  . Search and save as a file

If you do an extended find in cfstudio as well as being able to open
results in a browser, you can also export to a text file. Very useful
when you need a hardcopy of someone's unlocked session variables to show
them. ;-)

Kola

 
 Do you mind explnain the 3 above?
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 
 
 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Bailey, Neal
Yeah sorry about that I misunderstood your message. 

Yes that would be a nice feature to have... 

- Neal


-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, Code, Split
and Design. Click on Split to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 




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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Phillip B
 So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
 bottom at the same time.


You can do this by clicking on Code Inspector at the bottom of
Dreamweaver.

Phillip B.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
I also would like to have a custom Tool Bar and be able to create a button
for it by selecting a Shortcut. I guess that would like a MACRO. Create a
button that does a list of commands in order and with conditions.

I liked the buttons on the side in Studio for indenting code, now it's a
shortcut under 'Text'.

I am a mouse user and not so much on the short cuts.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

1) Code Templates

If you mean the ability to create and load templates to use as new files
then the Dreamweaver does support this.

2) Search and save as a file

If you mean the ability to save search/replace queries and load them
again at a later point then yes, Dreamweaver does support this.

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
 It
  was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
 
 Cast your vote:
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 




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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 I also would like to have a custom Tool Bar and be able to create a button
 for it by selecting a Shortcut. I guess that would like a MACRO. Create a
 button that does a list of commands in order and with conditions.

It's doable, pretty easy, it's just not GUI-driven, you need to customize
the configuration files by hand


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
   . Code templates

 Associating code to keywords as in cfstudio - e.g. if you have a code
 template associated with the word header after typing the keyword
 header and hitting ctrl-j the code will be inserted. In my view this
 is much more flexible than assigning code to shortcut key combinations.

I see, I almost never use keyborad shortcuts, that's why I missed it.
Anyway, it's missing in DW 2004


   . Bookmarks

 In cfstudio - ctrl-k will place a numbered marker at that particular
 line. Ctrl-shift-k will then jump to all numbered markers. Allows you to
 quickly jump to a section of code without doing a search.

Same as above


   . Search and save as a file

 If you do an extended find in cfstudio as well as being able to open
 results in a browser, you can also export to a text file. Very useful
 when you need a hardcopy of someone's unlocked session variables to show
 them. ;-)

In DW, both MX and 2004, you can save the results of Site Reports, not
Search  Replace. I agree, it's an handy feature


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
Not a solution but:

In Dreamweaver, using just the Tab key will indent blocks of code for
you. You can't do that in Studio.

You can write your own extensions to create your own toolbars if you
want.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

I also would like to have a custom Tool Bar and be able to create a
button
for it by selecting a Shortcut. I guess that would like a MACRO. Create
a
button that does a list of commands in order and with conditions.

I liked the buttons on the side in Studio for indenting code, now it's a
shortcut under 'Text'.

I am a mouse user and not so much on the short cuts.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

1) Code Templates

If you mean the ability to create and load templates to use as new files
then the Dreamweaver does support this.

2) Search and save as a file

If you mean the ability to save search/replace queries and load them
again at a later point then yes, Dreamweaver does support this.

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
 It
  was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
 
 Cast your vote:
 
 http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 





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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
F10 Code Inspector.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View
at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When
you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, Code,
Split
and Design. Click on Split to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone?
It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
(Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX
2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver,
these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't
have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It
would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing
the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working,
and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may
be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and
for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004
deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want
to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

 




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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
thought that was now deprecated?

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 September 2003 15:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


F10 Code Inspector.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View
at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When
you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, Code,
Split
and Design. Click on Split to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone?
It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
(Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
  somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
  these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
  bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
  and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
  etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
  I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
  the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX
2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that.
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver,
these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't
have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It
would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing
the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working,
and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may
be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and
for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004
deemphasizes
 the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want
to
 take a look at it.

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444

Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 thought that was now deprecated?
 
No, it survived :-)


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Dave Carabetta
Not a solution but:

In Dreamweaver, using just the Tab key will indent blocks of code for
you. You can't do that in Studio.


Sure you can. In HomeSite+, hit F8 to bring up the Options. Click on the 
Editor option in the left nav pane. Check the 4th checkbox from the bottom 
(Tab/Shift+Tab performs block indent/unindent) and then Apply and you're 
good to go.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Damn it ;-)

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Sent: 22 September 2003 15:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff


 thought that was now deprecated?
 
No, it survived :-)


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
So 

Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is possible in
DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but this
isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those features.

I'll add them to the wish list. 

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 15:06
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
. Code templates
 
  Associating code to keywords as in cfstudio - e.g. if you have a
code
  template associated with the word header after typing the keyword
  header and hitting ctrl-j the code will be inserted. In my view
this
  is much more flexible than assigning code to shortcut key
combinations.
 
 I see, I almost never use keyborad shortcuts, that's why I missed it.
 Anyway, it's missing in DW 2004
 
 
. Bookmarks
 
  In cfstudio - ctrl-k will place a numbered marker at that
particular
  line. Ctrl-shift-k will then jump to all numbered markers. Allows
you
 to
  quickly jump to a section of code without doing a search.
 
 Same as above
 
 
. Search and save as a file
 
  If you do an extended find in cfstudio as well as being able to
open
  results in a browser, you can also export to a text file. Very
useful
  when you need a hardcopy of someone's unlocked session variables to
 show
  them. ;-)
 
 In DW, both MX and 2004, you can save the results of Site Reports,
not
 Search  Replace. I agree, it's an handy feature
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
Right you are.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 15:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Not a solution but:

In Dreamweaver, using just the Tab key will indent blocks of code for
you. You can't do that in Studio.


Sure you can. In HomeSite+, hit F8 to bring up the Options. Click on the

Editor option in the left nav pane. Check the 4th checkbox from the
bottom 
(Tab/Shift+Tab performs block indent/unindent) and then Apply and
you're 
good to go.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Aunger, Mitch
Cool - but it does have a nasty habit of not retaining your position within the code 
inspector window when you switch between templates - which I do all the time :( 

(picky aren't i?)

Mitch

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


F10 Code Inspector.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the bottom at the 
same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at the same 
time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you open a document you 
will see on the top tab three buttons, Code, Split and Design. Click on Split 
to switch to split screen mode. This is defiantly one the most useful features of 
Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and different 
developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It was really 
helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path based on the 
Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one directory, so a file that looks 
like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where myCoolSite is 
the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would be 
reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


  I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping somebody on 
  the list can tell me if theres a way to do these 2 things:
 
  1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title bar. Having 
  only the file name and the last directory visible and not being able 
  to get the full path from file properties, etc. makes it really 
  difficult for me to keep track of what I'm doing, especially when 
  I've got more than one site with the same directory and I need to 
  know which site I'm editing.
 
  2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed 
  files? dialog when I remove or rename files.

 First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX
2004;
I
 have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

 Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
 suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do that. 
 However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver,
these
 behaviors make sense.

 When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't
have
 to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
Dreamweaver
 provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
 have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
 are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
 site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It
would
 be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing
the
 file you're actually working on.

 Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the Update
files
 dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
references
to
 that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser 
 instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
Dreamweaver,
 though.

 A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of working,
and
 if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may
be
 less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and
for
 managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less 
 helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004
deemphasizes
 the reliance

Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is possible in
 DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but this
 isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those features.

I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not ever.
Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)


Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Mike Kear
IN the first version of Dreamweaver I used, (3 I think) there was no dialog
box to tweak the code sweeper.  We ended up sharing a trick to edit a file,
ad I managed to get the sweeper to give me neat and tidy code, EXACTLY how I
like it - new line in front of this tag,  that tag no new line,  this other
tag two new lines to make it separate from the other code.  For example two
lines before a start table tag  and two lines after a end table tag meant
the table stood out nicely in the code.

Anyway, the point is, I can't get the code sweeper to give me exactly what I
like - it's a compromise.  Is there a way to tweak the code sweeper in DWMX
without using the dialog box?



Cheers,
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
possible in
  DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
 this
  isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
 features.
 
 I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
 ever.
 Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 Anyway, the point is, I can't get the code sweeper to give me exactly what
I
 like - it's a compromise.  Is there a way to tweak the code sweeper in
DWMX
 without using the dialog box?

You can try messing around with the VTML files (yes, DW use VTML too in the
background).
But I never tried it myself, so I can't suggest anything more


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
 products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

I have no idea about MM's strategic plans, I use Homeste and DW side by side
since late 1997, long before the merge.

Anyway, if you buy DW you get Homesite+ (CF Studio renamed) and you pay less
than the former cost of CF Studio, not a bad deal after all.


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Calvin Ward
Split view can be emulated by using Code Inspector and Code View in DWMX.

- Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: Kola Oyedeji [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


 Yes this is one of the features I quite liked in CFstudio anyone know if
 this has been included in the new Dreamweaver?

 Kola

  -Original Message-
  From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 22 September 2003 14:20
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
 
  While we are on DW subject...
 
  I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
  different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
 way
  to
  go.
 
  One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
 gone?
  It
  was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
 
  Rick
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.
 
  Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative
 path
  based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
  directory, so a file that looks like this:
 
  C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
  myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX
 and
  2004:
 
  myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)
 
  If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
  would
  be reasonable :)
 
  I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
 (Windows
  only) in a toolbar...
 
  HTH,
  Calvin
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
  Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
 
 
I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
these 2 things:
   
1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
   
2) eliminate the Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
files? dialog when I remove or rename files.
  
   First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with
 DWMX
  2004;
  I
   have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
  
   Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
 and
   suspect that for both of them, the answer is no, you can't do
 that.
   However, within the site-based work style encouraged by
 Dreamweaver,
  these
   behaviors make sense.
  
   When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you
 don't
  have
   to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
  Dreamweaver
   provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
  shouldn't
   have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
  actually
   are - after all, you may have local and remote site information
 within
  your
   site definition, and those paths may well change between the two.
 It
  would
   be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site
 containing
  the
   file you're actually working on.
  
   Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the
 Update
  files
   dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
  references
  to
   that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem
 browser
   instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
  Dreamweaver,
   though.
  
   A lot of the Site stuff is best suited to a specific way of
 working,
  and
   if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it
 may
  be
   less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML,
 and
  for
   managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it
 less
   helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004
  deemphasizes
   the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may
 want
  to
   take a look at it.
  
   Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
   http://www.figleaf.com/
   voice: (202) 797-5496
   fax: (202) 797-5444
  
  
 
 

 
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
cf_raspberry

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk

A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

Kola

 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
possible in
  DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
 this
  isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
 features.
 
 I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
 ever.
 Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 
 



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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Calvin Ward
Dreamweaver comes with HomeSite+ which is CF Studio.

- Calvin
- Original Message - 
From: Kola Oyedeji [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


 A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
 products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

 Kola

  -Original Message-
  From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
   Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
 possible in
   DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
  this
   isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
  features.
 
  I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
  ever.
  Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
 
  
  Massimo Foti
  Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
  Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
  http://www.massimocorner.com/
  
 
 
 
 

 
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something like
that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products that
have such a large overlap of functionality?

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 15:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

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 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
 
  Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
possible in
  DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
 this
  isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
 features.
 
 I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
 ever.
 Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

Right. But if you, like me, don't need the additional functionalities,
Homesite 5.5 is 99 bucks (29 for the upgrade)


 You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something like
 that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

It never changed since DW MX was released, almost a year and an half ago


 You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products that
 have such a large overlap of functionality?

That's indeed a good question


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
AFAIK...HS 5.5 is HS+?

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From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff


 In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

Right. But if you, like me, don't need the additional functionalities,
Homesite 5.5 is 99 bucks (29 for the upgrade)


 You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something like
 that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

It never changed since DW MX was released, almost a year and an half ago


 You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products that
 have such a large overlap of functionality?

That's indeed a good question


Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
http://www.massimocorner.com/




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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Raymond Camden
 In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

Correct.

 You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or 
 something like that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

Eh? This was done about a year ago I think. It's not flipped back and
forth at all. MACR simply stopped selling ColdFusion Studio, renamed it
as HS+ and put it with DW. Whether you like that move or not, I don't
think MACR is being wishy-washy about it.


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
  In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.
 
 Right. But if you, like me, don't need the additional functionalities,
 Homesite 5.5 is 99 bucks (29 for the upgrade)
 
 
  You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something
like
  that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.
 
 It never changed since DW MX was released, almost a year and an half
ago

That'll shut me up.
 
 
  You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products
that
  have such a large overlap of functionality?
 
 That's indeed a good question
 
 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 
 
 
 
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
 Eh? This was done about a year ago I think. It's not flipped back and
 forth at all. MACR simply stopped selling ColdFusion Studio, renamed
it
 as HS+ and put it with DW. Whether you like that move or not, I don't
 think MACR is being wishy-washy about it.

I've been corrected on this point already. That'll teach me to comment.

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
 AFAIK...HS 5.5 is HS+?

Lot's of confusion, isn't it? :-)

No, HS 5.5 is just HS 5.5.

Homesite+ is the former CF Studio, with Query Builder, Debugger (CF 5 only)
and the like.

In my own opinion CF Studio additional features weren't worth the price
compared to Homesite. So I always used Homesite.


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