Re: multi-lingual translations
Does anyone know if anything (Custom tag etc) exists whereby it would be possible to translate text into other languages on the fly. Ie coming from a database and being translated before it appears on the page? Think it might be a long shot but worth a try. If not this, would anyone have any other ideas about how this might be achieved? there's the service behind bablefishbut the babelfish free service is only good for a laugh if you try to do anything complicated. the commercial stuff is better but basically still can't do better than the ordinary multi-lingual meatbots. btw check the archives, this was just recently discussed. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: multi-lingual translations
In short, it cant really be done; the complexity of language makes it nigh on impossible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:paul;tei.or.th] Sent: 31 October 2002 09:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: multi-lingual translations Does anyone know if anything (Custom tag etc) exists whereby it would be possible to translate text into other languages on the fly. Ie coming from a database and being translated before it appears on the page? Think it might be a long shot but worth a try. If not this, would anyone have any other ideas about how this might be achieved? there's the service behind bablefishbut the babelfish free service is only good for a laugh if you try to do anything complicated. the commercial stuff is better but basically still can't do better than the ordinary multi-lingual meatbots. btw check the archives, this was just recently discussed. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: multi-lingual translations
In short, it cant really be done; the complexity of language makes it nigh on impossible. well if you want to translate stuff like How well do you get along with your wife? yes, you might get punched out or otherwise into some kind of trouble (ala the famous monty python skit). but if you're after stuff like up, down, right, left, etc. i would guess the current state-of-the-art might be good enough (though i'd still have a human look thru it). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: multi-lingual translations
Yep, where online translations fall down are with verbs etc. and the fact spoken and business lexicons of different languages are dramatically different. It could translate one sentence into the spoken way perfectly but it may not be exaclty the way it should be written. Many languages suffer from this 'affliction' English is not one of them, but you will always get problems when translating to English due to its complexity... there are many ways/words of expressing something - which is why it is a difficult language to learn 100% Neil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:paul;tei.or.th] Sent: 31 October 2002 10:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: multi-lingual translations In short, it cant really be done; the complexity of language makes it nigh on impossible. well if you want to translate stuff like How well do you get along with your wife? yes, you might get punched out or otherwise into some kind of trouble (ala the famous monty python skit). but if you're after stuff like up, down, right, left, etc. i would guess the current state-of-the-art might be good enough (though i'd still have a human look thru it). --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: multi-lingual translations
Agreed... we have use www.techtranslation.com in the past for web site translation. They understand web sites and databases etc. Great people to work with also. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: multi-lingual translations In short, it cant really be done; the complexity of language makes it nigh on impossible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:paul;tei.or.th] Sent: 31 October 2002 09:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: multi-lingual translations Does anyone know if anything (Custom tag etc) exists whereby it would be possible to translate text into other languages on the fly. Ie coming from a database and being translated before it appears on the page? Think it might be a long shot but worth a try. If not this, would anyone have any other ideas about how this might be achieved? there's the service behind bablefishbut the babelfish free service is only good for a laugh if you try to do anything complicated. the commercial stuff is better but basically still can't do better than the ordinary multi-lingual meatbots. btw check the archives, this was just recently discussed. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: multi-lingual translations
Plan on paying $50-$75 per page. Then you should have a multi-lingual user review the translations to be sure that each page says what you want in the tone your want. Pictures may also have to be localized to match local customs. -Original Message- From: Chad [mailto:cgray;careyweb.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: multi-lingual translations Agreed... we have use www.techtranslation.com in the past for web site translation. They understand web sites and databases etc. Great people to work with also. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC) [mailto:Neil.Robertson- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: multi-lingual translations In short, it cant really be done; the complexity of language makes it nigh on impossible. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:paul;tei.or.th] Sent: 31 October 2002 09:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: multi-lingual translations Does anyone know if anything (Custom tag etc) exists whereby it would be possible to translate text into other languages on the fly. Ie coming from a database and being translated before it appears on the page? Think it might be a long shot but worth a try. If not this, would anyone have any other ideas about how this might be achieved? there's the service behind bablefishbut the babelfish free service is only good for a laugh if you try to do anything complicated. the commercial stuff is better but basically still can't do better than the ordinary multi-lingual meatbots. btw check the archives, this was just recently discussed. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.408 / Virus Database: 230 - Release Date: 10/24/2002 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: multi-lingual translations
just FYI: thierry sourbier has a pretty good i18n site, here's his machine translation list... http://www.i18ngurus.com/docs/995054490.html --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.404 / Virus Database: 228 - Release Date: 15/10/2545 ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: multi-lingual translations
www.sysystransoft.com can help with translation. The downside is the price, the fact that they can only process 64k worth of html at a time, and it requires some weird code monkeying to integrate with them. You might want to give it a look, though. Ryan -Original Message- From: Simon Whittaker [mailto:simonwhitt;hotpop.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: multi-lingual translations Hi there, Does anyone know if anything (Custom tag etc) exists whereby it would be possible to translate text into other languages on the fly. Ie coming from a database and being translated before it appears on the page? Think it might be a long shot but worth a try. If not this, would anyone have any other ideas about how this might be achieved? Cheers Simon ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
