Re: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control
>Another way to look at it, kinda, is that CF8 integrates with server side >.NET stuff, but not client side .NET stuff, like the ASP.NET UI controls. I see the point you're trying to make, but this isn't really accurate. An ASP.NET "control" is equivalent to a CFML tag, and is rendered completely on the server. Another analogy you can make is between ASP.NET controls and JSP taglibs, which are also rendered completely on the server. Your first statement was more accurate (the "for CF8" in parentheses was added by me): >Not really, ASP.NET is not part of the integration story (for CF8). I'm not sure what you mean by "CF8 integrates with server side .NET stuff." To me, .NET integration in CF8 is very much like Java integration was in CF5. In CF5, you can create Java objects via CFOBJECT, but there's no integration with server-side Java (J2EE, or now, just JEE). Prior to CFMX, there was no integration with J2EE servers, such as the "J2EE Sessions" option, or the ability to use JSP taglibs within CFML pages. Similarly, CF8 lets you create .NET objects via CFOBJECT, but provides no integration with ASP.NET, which is the .NET server-side equivalent of JSP/J2EE. Contrast this to BlueDragon.NET, which provides full integration with ASP.NET in much the same way that CFMX (and the Java/J2EE editions of BD) provide full integration with J2EE. BD.NET has an "ASP.NET Sessions" option, which allows you to share session scope variables between CFML and ASP.NET pages, and allows you to include (via CFINCLUDE) ASP.NET pages within CFML pages (these included ASP.NET pages can contain ASP.NET controls, which was the original question here). More information can be found in the BD 7.0 "Integrating CFML with ASP.NET" document: http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/self_help/docs/7_0/BlueDragon_70_Integrating_CFML_with_ASPNET.pdf Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293892 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control
Not really, ASP.NET is not part of the integration story. Another way to look at it, kinda, is that CF8 integrates with server side ..NET stuff, but not client side .NET stuff, like the ASP.NET UI controls. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control So the .net code would then call whatever controls you wanted to use. Or is there a complete disconnect between ColdFusion and .Net controls? Sorry for putting out inaccurate information. :) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control Actually, that won't work. CF8 can consume .NET classes etc. You have access to the .NET framework and any .NET code you write yourself. But CF cannot use ASP.NET controls. I see that Vince also responded, and he is correct. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control You should be able to with CF8. Call it as a cfobject -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -Original Message- From: Jose Diaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control Hello All, I have had the following request past onto me: Can we pass CF a .net 3.0 dll containing a control - say the calendar control, and then allow CF to consume this dll and display the calendar. I am using CF8 and I am aware that BlueDragon could be a possible answer to this, I was wondering if this is possible with CF8. The most I have done so far is use cfobject to expose some .net methods and display the data they return. Hope this makes sense. Thanks, Jose Diaz ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293886 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control
So the .net code would then call whatever controls you wanted to use. Or is there a complete disconnect between ColdFusion and .Net controls? Sorry for putting out inaccurate information. :) -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control Actually, that won't work. CF8 can consume .NET classes etc. You have access to the .NET framework and any .NET code you write yourself. But CF cannot use ASP.NET controls. I see that Vince also responded, and he is correct. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control You should be able to with CF8. Call it as a cfobject -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -Original Message- From: Jose Diaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control Hello All, I have had the following request past onto me: Can we pass CF a .net 3.0 dll containing a control - say the calendar control, and then allow CF to consume this dll and display the calendar. I am using CF8 and I am aware that BlueDragon could be a possible answer to this, I was wondering if this is possible with CF8. The most I have done so far is use cfobject to expose some .net methods and display the data they return. Hope this makes sense. Thanks, Jose Diaz ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293884 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control
Actually, that won't work. CF8 can consume .NET classes etc. You have access to the .NET framework and any .NET code you write yourself. But CF cannot use ASP.NET controls. I see that Vince also responded, and he is correct. --- Ben -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control You should be able to with CF8. Call it as a cfobject -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -Original Message- From: Jose Diaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control Hello All, I have had the following request past onto me: Can we pass CF a .net 3.0 dll containing a control - say the calendar control, and then allow CF to consume this dll and display the calendar. I am using CF8 and I am aware that BlueDragon could be a possible answer to this, I was wondering if this is possible with CF8. The most I have done so far is use cfobject to expose some .net methods and display the data they return. Hope this makes sense. Thanks, Jose Diaz ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade to ColdFusion 8 and integrate with Adobe Flex http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJP Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293880 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control
Yes, this is possible with BlueDragon.NET (I can send you an example if you need it). No, I don't think this is possible with CF8, because CF8 does not provide any integration with ASP.NET, and .NET controls require the ASP.NET runtime context. CF8 integration with .NET is done via a separate Windows process--you can see this in the Services control panel or task manager--and this process does not provide any integration with ASP.NET. In contrast, BlueDragon.NET is implemented entirely on top of (within?) the ASP.NET runtime. Vince Bonfanti New Atlanta Communications, LLC >Hello All, > >I have had the following request past onto me: > >Can we pass CF a .net 3.0 dll containing a control - say the calendar >control, and then allow CF to consume this dll and display the >calendar. > >I am using CF8 and I am aware that BlueDragon could be a possible >answer to this, I was wondering if this is possible with CF8. > >The most I have done so far is use cfobject to expose some .net >methods and display the data they return. > >Hope this makes sense. > >Thanks, > >Jose Diaz ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293878 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control
You should be able to with CF8. Call it as a cfobject -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (703) 220-2835 http://www.sstwebworks.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/sstwebworks Boycott Sys-Con http://www.sstwebworks.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/10/16/Boycotting-SysCon -Original Message- From: Jose Diaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:34 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion Consuming a .Net Control Hello All, I have had the following request past onto me: Can we pass CF a .net 3.0 dll containing a control - say the calendar control, and then allow CF to consume this dll and display the calendar. I am using CF8 and I am aware that BlueDragon could be a possible answer to this, I was wondering if this is possible with CF8. The most I have done so far is use cfobject to expose some .net methods and display the data they return. Hope this makes sense. Thanks, Jose Diaz ~| Enterprise web applications, build robust, secure scalable apps today - Try it now ColdFusion Today ColdFusion 8 beta - Build next generation apps Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:293876 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
