Re: OT: CSS validation (mac)

2004-04-02 Thread Stephen Moretti
Dwayne Cole wrote:

 My style sheets work fine in IE and Netscape on PC but on macs I'm 
 running into problems.Does anyone know of any services or resources 
 that can help me validate and/ tweak style sheets to make sure that 
 they are cross browser, cross platform compatible.

Have you tried http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/ ?

Incidently, if you're checking CSS against Nutscrape 4.7 on the Mac -
you're gonna have a hard time.NS4.7 doesn't support CSS very well.
You have to build in all sorts of work arounds, some of which may well
break things in other browsers.

To be honest macs are going out the window anyway - nobody ever uses
them - why bother making things work on a Mac...
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Another good tester is Mozilla's Firefox - get the web developer tools
extension installed.For those of you not already converted/aware -
Firefox is very strict on it interpretation of HTML/CSS etc.So my
theory is that if it works in Firefox, then will definately work in IE
and is probably pretty close already on other platforms and browsers
too.But thats just my gut feeling on it - there's been no real testing
of that theory - other than no mac users complaining on a redesign I did
recently.

Regards

Stephen
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RE: OT: CSS validation (mac)

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Carabetta
My style sheets work fine in IE and Netscape on PC but on macs I'm running 
into problems.Does anyone know of any services or resources that can help 
me validate and/ tweak style sheets to make sure that they are cross 
browser, cross platform compatible.


Dreamweaver MX 2004 has phenomenal support for CSS validation across 
OS/browsers. If that's an option, it's validator can't be beat (in my 
expereince).

Regards,
Dave.
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RE: OT: CSS validation (mac)

2004-04-02 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
but you have to separate things:

you can validate the stylesheet against a w3c css standard, which makes
sure that all the code is correct.

That does not imply (necessarily) that a browser (esp. a legacy one)
interprets and renders it correctly. You can either test that hands-on
or learn (read/the hard way) what is supported and not supported
(general rules: IE6 supports most of the basics, Moz/Firefox supports
some 99.5%, opera, ie5/mac and safari good, nn4 and older IE/win are not
so good). There are loads of resources around for your css needs, this
might be a good starting point:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/


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| -Original Message-
| From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 17:05
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| Subject: RE: OT: CSS validation (mac)
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| My style sheets work fine in IE and Netscape on PC but on macs I'm
| running into problems.Does anyone know of any services or
| resources
| that can help me validate and/ tweak style sheets to make sure that
| they are cross browser, cross platform compatible.
| 
|
| Dreamweaver MX 2004 has phenomenal support for CSS validation
| across OS/browsers. If that's an option, it's validator can't
| be beat (in my expereince).
|
| Regards,
| Dave.
|
|
|
|
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RE: OT: CSS validation (mac)

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Carabetta
but you have to separate things:

you can validate the stylesheet against a w3c css standard, which makes
sure that all the code is correct.

That does not imply (necessarily) that a browser (esp. a legacy one)
interprets and renders it correctly. You can either test that hands-on
or learn (read/the hard way) what is supported and not supported
(general rules: IE6 supports most of the basics, Moz/Firefox supports
some 99.5%, opera, ie5/mac and safari good, nn4 and older IE/win are not
so good). There are loads of resources around for your css needs, this
might be a good starting point:
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/


Sorry, didn't mean pure validation from a syntax standpoint. I meant that 
it'll give you messages such as property X is not supported in Safari 1.0. 
At that point, you know that you're going to have issues in Safari browsers 
if you use that property. And you can even configure which 
OS/browsers/versions to check against so that if you're not developing for 
NS 4, it won't show those erros.

Try an eval copy of DW MX to see what I mean if you don't own it. It still 
has its flaws, but the CSS support is really unmatched that I've seen.

Regards,
Dave.
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