Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-26 Thread Claude Schnéegans

  the paste from word button turns it in to plain ASCII text

Last time I looked at the clean function in FCK, I think it did not cut 
elementary and non harmful HTML, like Bold, italic, etc.
However most of pasted text include styles and classes, which is almost 
impossible to clean efficiently otherwise than eliminating them .

If for instance text contains BFONT... ... /FONT/B, it is easy to 
remove FONT and to keep B.
Now, most often it is STYLE font-weight : bold; font-family : 
...;.../STYLE, much more difficult to deal with if you want to keep just the 
bold style.

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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Edward Chanter

I've tried most of the WYSIWYG editors and CKEditor is definitely the best
in terms of features and customisation.

The problem I found is users. You can put notes in you can warn them, you
can call them email them and practically burn the Do not paste directly
into the editor from ANYWHERE without using the paste from word function
mantra onto their eyelids but there will always be one who doesn't do it and
calls you to complain that the website is all messed up. I've never found
a way around this other than to help the user and remind them from the
50'000th time that they need to use the paste from word function.

On the bright side it's easier than telling them to paste things into
notepad before copying into the editor.

:)

 -Original Message-
 The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of pasting it
 straight into the editor,  click the paste from word
 button and paste the content into the little window that pops up.
 When you click the button, it puts plain text into the editor.


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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Russ Michaels

you can capture the paste event and put it through the word paste by default.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Edward Chanter firew...@cc.uk.com wrote:

 I've tried most of the WYSIWYG editors and CKEditor is definitely the best
 in terms of features and customisation.

 The problem I found is users. You can put notes in you can warn them, you
 can call them email them and practically burn the Do not paste directly
 into the editor from ANYWHERE without using the paste from word function
 mantra onto their eyelids but there will always be one who doesn't do it and
 calls you to complain that the website is all messed up. I've never found
 a way around this other than to help the user and remind them from the
 50'000th time that they need to use the paste from word function.

 On the bright side it's easier than telling them to paste things into
 notepad before copying into the editor.

 :)

 -Original Message-
 The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of pasting it
 straight into the editor,  click the paste from word
 button and paste the content into the little window that pops up.
 When you click the button, it puts plain text into the editor.


 

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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Edward Chanter

 -Original Message-
 you can capture the paste event and put it through the word paste by
 default.
 

Now there's a totally brilliant idea! This is something I really need to
figure out how to do. Do you mayhaps have a piece of javascript which does
this that you'd be willing to share? I'm still getting my head around JS and
coding this one from scratch is a little out of my league.


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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Russ Michaels

no sorry, but I know from looking atthe code that it allows you to
capture any event and perform an action.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Edward Chanter firew...@cc.uk.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 you can capture the paste event and put it through the word paste by
 default.


 Now there's a totally brilliant idea! This is something I really need to
 figure out how to do. Do you mayhaps have a piece of javascript which does
 this that you'd be willing to share? I'm still getting my head around JS and
 coding this one from scratch is a little out of my league.


 

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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Edward Chanter

I'll investigate, thanks Russ :)

 -Original Message-
 no sorry, but I know from looking atthe code that it allows you to capture
any
 event and perform an action.
 


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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Will Swain

I think the latest version of tinyMce does this for you. Worth a look for
the OP perhaps. 

Will

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: 25 October 2011 10:06
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Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


no sorry, but I know from looking atthe code that it allows you to capture
any event and perform an action.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Edward Chanter firew...@cc.uk.com wrote:

 -Original Message-
 you can capture the paste event and put it through the word paste by 
 default.


 Now there's a totally brilliant idea! This is something I really need 
 to figure out how to do. Do you mayhaps have a piece of javascript 
 which does this that you'd be willing to share? I'm still getting my 
 head around JS and coding this one from scratch is a little out of my
league.


 



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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not force 
cleaning from Word automatically.
The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user, who 
don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.

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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Rick Faircloth

As one who has never wanted to give (or actually given)
so much aesthetic control over displayed content, I haven't
had the need to implement ckEditor.

However, after following this thread, and based largely on
Claude's comment below, I wonder why the Paste button isn't
programmed to perform the functions of the Paste button
and the Paste from Word button at once.

Since there's never (is there?) any reason to paste from Word
without cleanup, why even make it possible?

Rick


-Original Message-
From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
[mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:04 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


 The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not force
cleaning from Word automatically.
The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user,
who don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.



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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Milburn

You can customize the ckEditor toolbar and remove the Paste button, leaving
only the Paste From Word option available.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 As one who has never wanted to give (or actually given)
 so much aesthetic control over displayed content, I haven't
 had the need to implement ckEditor.

 However, after following this thread, and based largely on
 Claude's comment below, I wonder why the Paste button isn't
 programmed to perform the functions of the Paste button
 and the Paste from Word button at once.

 Since there's never (is there?) any reason to paste from Word
 without cleanup, why even make it possible?

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
 [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:04 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


  The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
 pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

 I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not force
 cleaning from Word automatically.
 The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
 IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user,
 who don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.



 

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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Claude Schnéegans

 leaving only the Paste From Word option available.

... then you will have users calling you to ask How can I paste if not from 
Word? ;-)

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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Russ Michaels

Rick,

there are multiple ways to paste into the editor that's why.
You could just click the regular paste button or use CTRL V
The paste from word may also remove WANTED content if you used it for
everything, it is intended to remove superfluous markup.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

 As one who has never wanted to give (or actually given)
 so much aesthetic control over displayed content, I haven't
 had the need to implement ckEditor.

 However, after following this thread, and based largely on
 Claude's comment below, I wonder why the Paste button isn't
 programmed to perform the functions of the Paste button
 and the Paste from Word button at once.

 Since there's never (is there?) any reason to paste from Word
 without cleanup, why even make it possible?

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
 [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:04 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


  The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
 pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

 I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not force
 cleaning from Word automatically.
 The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
 IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user,
 who don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.



 

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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Rick Faircloth

Ok, thanks, Russ... good to know.

-Original Message-
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:r...@michaels.me.uk] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:50 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


Rick,

there are multiple ways to paste into the editor that's why.
You could just click the regular paste button or use CTRL V
The paste from word may also remove WANTED content if you used it for
everything, it is intended to remove superfluous markup.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

 As one who has never wanted to give (or actually given)
 so much aesthetic control over displayed content, I haven't
 had the need to implement ckEditor.

 However, after following this thread, and based largely on
 Claude's comment below, I wonder why the Paste button isn't
 programmed to perform the functions of the Paste button
 and the Paste from Word button at once.

 Since there's never (is there?) any reason to paste from Word
 without cleanup, why even make it possible?

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
 [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:04 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


  The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
 pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

 I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not
force
 cleaning from Word automatically.
 The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
 IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user,
 who don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.



 



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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Rick Faircloth

I guess that's better than trashed sites.

My guess is that they'd try the regular Paste button
before calling, anyway.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:48 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


 leaving only the Paste From Word option available.

... then you will have users calling you to ask How can I paste if not from
Word? ;-)



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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Rick Faircloth

And the Paste from Word button works for all circumstances?


-Original Message-
From: Steve Milburn [mailto:scmilb...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:44 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


You can customize the ckEditor toolbar and remove the Paste button, leaving
only the Paste From Word option available.

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 As one who has never wanted to give (or actually given)
 so much aesthetic control over displayed content, I haven't
 had the need to implement ckEditor.

 However, after following this thread, and based largely on
 Claude's comment below, I wonder why the Paste button isn't
 programmed to perform the functions of the Paste button
 and the Paste from Word button at once.

 Since there's never (is there?) any reason to paste from Word
 without cleanup, why even make it possible?

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
 [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:04 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


  The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
 pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

 I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not
force
 cleaning from Word automatically.
 The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
 IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user,
 who don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.



 



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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Russ Michaels

I would say NOT, if you are pasting HTML with addiitonal markup, such
as span tags, classes etc, it may get stripped using paste from word

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Rick Faircloth
r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

 And the Paste from Word button works for all circumstances?


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Milburn [mailto:scmilb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:44 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


 You can customize the ckEditor toolbar and remove the Paste button, leaving
 only the Paste From Word option available.

 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.comwrote:


 As one who has never wanted to give (or actually given)
 so much aesthetic control over displayed content, I haven't
 had the need to implement ckEditor.

 However, after following this thread, and based largely on
 Claude's comment below, I wonder why the Paste button isn't
 programmed to perform the functions of the Paste button
 and the Paste from Word button at once.

 Since there's never (is there?) any reason to paste from Word
 without cleanup, why even make it possible?

 Rick


 -Original Message-
 From: Claude Schnéegans schneeg...@internetique.com
 [mailto:=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Claude_Schn=E9egans schneegans@interneti=71?=
 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ue.com=3E?=]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:04 AM
 To: cf-talk
 Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor


  The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
 pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word

 I never implemented fckEditor, mainly because the programer could not
 force
 cleaning from Word automatically.
 The was a button Paste and another one Paste from Word.
 IMO the need to clean pasted text from Word must not be left to the user,
 who don't even know why text needs to be cleaned up.







 

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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-25 Thread Mike Kear

Yes,  the paste from word button turns it in to plain ASCII text,  at
least as far as all my trials have gone.   It's possible there are
examples where there are fragments left, but I havent found any.   It
strips out all the formatting,  style info,  html  from the word text.

I have removed all the 'paste' buttons from some of my
implementations, except for the 'paste from word' button, and i just
call it the paste button.  On those implementations, teh users only
have the choice of either typing the content into the text area,  or
pasting it in, or using the paste button.   I tell them that if they
are copying text from a word or other document, to paste it in using
that button and so far it's worked a treat.   I suppose if i had a lot
more users loading content,  that might become an issue but so far
it's been fine.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:20 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:

 I would say NOT, if you are pasting HTML with addiitonal markup, such
 as span tags, classes etc, it may get stripped using paste from word

 On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Rick Faircloth
 r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

 And the Paste from Word button works for all circumstances?



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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Russ Michaels

the copy and paste is a firefox security setting, they are going to
get it with any WYSIWYG editor.The message actually tells you how to
get rid of it if I recall.
it is however very easy to bypass, you can drag and drop text or right
click paste and you wont get the message,




 

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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Casey Dougall

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote:


 What Wysiwyg editor do you guys recommend? We're using the built in
 fckEditor and people are complaining about pop up warnings from copying and
 pasting from Word. I believe they are browser security issues but I'm
 trying
 to investigate other options



Sounds like fckEditor doing it's cleaning on Word HTML which is rancid. It's
a pop up warning that it needs to fix Words shit markup before using the
text.


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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Greg Morphis

That's exactly what I thought. In fact I found a solution how to get rid of
the error message. I appreciate the reply!
On Oct 24, 2011 5:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 the copy and paste is a firefox security setting, they are going to
 get it with any WYSIWYG editor.The message actually tells you how to
 get rid of it if I recall.
 it is however very easy to bypass, you can drag and drop text or right
 click paste and you wont get the message,


 
 
 

 

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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Matt Williams

I recommend that people only copy and paste from notepad. Extra html
that gets in there from any other source can wreak havoc on the final
output.

-Matt

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's exactly what I thought. In fact I found a solution how to get rid of
 the error message. I appreciate the reply!
 On Oct 24, 2011 5:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 the copy and paste is a firefox security setting, they are going to
 get it with any WYSIWYG editor.The message actually tells you how to
 get rid of it if I recall.
 it is however very easy to bypass, you can drag and drop text or right
 click paste and you wont get the message,


 
 
 



 

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RE: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear

+ 1 for Matt's reply.

FCK doesn't do a great job of cleaning up word text .. do a view source ..


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Sent: 25 October 2011 01:20
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Wysiwyg editor



I recommend that people only copy and paste from notepad. Extra html
that gets in there from any other source can wreak havoc on the final
output.

-Matt

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM, Greg Morphis gmorp...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's exactly what I thought. In fact I found a solution how 
to get rid of
 the error message. I appreciate the reply!
 On Oct 24, 2011 5:41 PM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:


 the copy and paste is a firefox security setting, they are going to
 get it with any WYSIWYG editor.The message actually tells you how to
 get rid of it if I recall.
 it is however very easy to bypass, you can drag and drop text or right
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Re: Wysiwyg editor

2011-10-24 Thread Mike Kear

fckEditor (or its more modern cousin ckeditor)  has a button to paste
from word instead.   You can have all kinds of style and markup in the
clipboard and it'll strip it all out and give you just plain text
entered into your field.

The user copys the text from the word document, then instead of
pasting it straight into the editor,  click the paste from word
button and paste the content into the little window that pops up.
When you click the button, it puts plain text into the editor.

Cheers
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 + 1 for Matt's reply.

 FCK doesn't do a great job of cleaning up word text .. do a view source ..


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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread Paul Hastings
James Holmes wrote:
 FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK.

fck's i18n support is better.

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread James Holmes
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if we run into i18n requirements, which
is bound to happen eventually.

On 6/12/06, Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Holmes wrote:
  FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK.

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RE: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread Tim Laureska
Uuhh.. just curious, what are i18n requirements ?




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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if we run into i18n requirements, which
is bound to happen eventually.

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 James Holmes wrote:
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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread |Rens| 0
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+i18n

Tim Laureska wrote:
 Uuhh.. just curious, what are i18n requirements ?
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor
 
 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if we run into i18n requirements, which
 is bound to happen eventually.
 
 On 6/12/06, Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 James Holmes wrote:
 FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK.
 fck's i18n support is better.
 

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread Paul Hastings
Tim Laureska wrote:
 Uuhh.. just curious, what are i18n requirements ?

well in the case of tinyMCE, not being a rat's nest of encodings.

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk
*Internationalization* is often abbreviated as *I18N* (or *i18n* or *I18n*)
where the number 18 refers to the number of letters omitted [1]

HTH

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I18N

On 12/06/06, Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uuhh.. just curious, what are i18n requirements ?




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 Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor

 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if we run into i18n requirements, which
 is bound to happen eventually.

 On 6/12/06, Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  James Holmes wrote:
   FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK.
 
  fck's i18n support is better.

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RE: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-12 Thread Snake
Sheesh, the people who came up with that are obviously lazy typists. 

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Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor

*Internationalization* is often abbreviated as *I18N* (or *i18n* or *I18n*)
where the number 18 refers to the number of letters omitted [1]

HTH

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I18N

On 12/06/06, Tim Laureska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Uuhh.. just curious, what are i18n requirements ?




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 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor

 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if we run into i18n requirements, which 
 is bound to happen eventually.

 On 6/12/06, Paul Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  James Holmes wrote:
   FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK.
 
  fck's i18n support is better.

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread Matt Robertson
http://www.fckeditor.net.

Arguably the most widely used editor out there.  Certainly has the biggest user 
base as free editors go.

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread Auke van Leeuwen
Agreed

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
FCKeditor ++, though I wish there was a WYSIWYG that could be employed in
Flash forms...

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread Rob Wilkerson
You might check out TinyMCE.  http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/

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RE: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread Brian Peddle
TinyMCE is great -- cross browser, good community support in the forums,
easy to extend.

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You might check out TinyMCE.  http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread Andrew Grosset
Another one is here:

http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/

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Re: WYSIWYG Editor

2006-06-11 Thread James Holmes
FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK.

On 6/12/06, Brian Peddle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 TinyMCE is great -- cross browser, good community support in the forums,
 easy to extend.

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 Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor

 You might check out TinyMCE.  http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/

 On 6/11/06, Charles Heizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
  Can someone please recommend a good + free WYSIWYG editor for me to embed
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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-04 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
As I understand (just did a little survey on what was out there), it doesn't
fully support stylesheets, right?

/H.

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Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

| No problem. The 3 major pitfalls we've found:
|
| 1) you can't view the html source code (most other editors have some
| sort of way to toggle between wysiwyg and code); 2) you must use the
| editor save button as the form submit (which from a UI perspective
| can be confusing); 3) although it claims to be compatible with all
| flash-compatible browsers, that's not true (it wouldn't work in
| safari, for instance)
|
| But it's a lot easier to deal with than the java editors we looked at
| -- 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: A.Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:54 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs
|
|
| Kelly,
| Just out of interest, what have you found to be problematic with
| eWebWP?
| I'm asking because we're looking at using this tool too, but it would
| be
| handy to know the experiences from someone who's used it in 'real
| life' ;-)
| Ta,
| Alex
| Ps. Feel free to email me off list if it goes a bit OT.
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 03 March 2004 13:35
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs
|
| Check out Ektron's eWebWP. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's
| written in flash and we've used it successfully with Mac clients --
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Daniel Pacitti - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:45 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: wysiwyg Editor for Macs
|
| Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac
| that can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3
| from cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.
|
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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-04 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
| If you interested in developing a solution I'll give you the source
| code 
| for my java wysiwyg editor
| http://www.rohanclan.com/products/OpenHTMLEditor.cfm
| Its not done yet , as you can see , but it does work on Mac (Safari
| with 
| 10.3 anyway and all the latest patches)

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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-04 Thread Rob
I changed it last night
http://www.rohanclan.com/products/OpenHTMLEditor/OpenHTMLEditor.html

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 | code 
 | for my java wysiwyg editor
 | http://www.rohanclan.com/products/OpenHTMLEditor.cfm
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RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-04 Thread Kelly Tetterton
Correct --

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

As I understand (just did a little survey on what was out there), it doesn't
fully support stylesheets, right?

/H.

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From: Kelly Tetterton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 14:58
Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

| No problem. The 3 major pitfalls we've found:
|
| 1) you can't view the html source code (most other editors have some
| sort of way to toggle between wysiwyg and code); 2) you must use the
| editor save button as the form submit (which from a UI perspective
| can be confusing); 3) although it claims to be compatible with all
| flash-compatible browsers, that's not true (it wouldn't work in
| safari, for instance)
|
| But it's a lot easier to deal with than the java editors we looked at
| -- 
|
| -Original Message-
| From: A.Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:54 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs
|
|
| Kelly,
| Just out of interest, what have you found to be problematic with
| eWebWP?
| I'm asking because we're looking at using this tool too, but it would
| be
| handy to know the experiences from someone who's used it in 'real
| life' ;-)
| Ta,
| Alex
| Ps. Feel free to email me off list if it goes a bit OT.
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: 03 March 2004 13:35
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs
|
| Check out Ektron's eWebWP. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's
| written in flash and we've used it successfully with Mac clients --
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Daniel Pacitti - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:45 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: wysiwyg Editor for Macs
|
| Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac
| that can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3
| from cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.
|
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:45 AM
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Subject: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac that
can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3 from
cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.

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Developer
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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread Stephen Moretti
Daniel Pacitti - ASP wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac that
 can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3 from
 cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.
 

Try this out

http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/

It definately works in Mozilla/Firefox cross platform.It doesn't claim 
to work in IE on the Mac, but you can always give it a go.
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RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread A.Little
Kelly,
Just out of interest, what have you found to be problematic with eWebWP?
I'm asking because we're looking at using this tool too, but it would be
handy to know the experiences from someone who's used it in 'real life'
;-)
Ta,
Alex
Ps. Feel free to email me off list if it goes a bit OT.

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From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 March 2004 13:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

Check out Ektron's eWebWP. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's
written in flash and we've used it successfully with Mac clients --

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Pacitti - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac
that can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3
from cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.

Daniel Pacitti
Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
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RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread Kelly Tetterton
No problem. The 3 major pitfalls we've found:

 
1) you can't view the html source code (most other editors have some sort of way to toggle between wysiwyg and code);
2) you must use the editor save button as the form submit (which from a UI perspective can be confusing);
3) although it claims to be compatible with all flash-compatible browsers, that's not true (it wouldn't work in safari, for instance)

 
But it's a lot easier to deal with than the java editors we looked at --

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From: A.Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:54 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

Kelly,
Just out of interest, what have you found to be problematic with eWebWP?
I'm asking because we're looking at using this tool too, but it would be
handy to know the experiences from someone who's used it in 'real life'
;-)
Ta,
Alex
Ps. Feel free to email me off list if it goes a bit OT.

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 03 March 2004 13:35
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

Check out Ektron's eWebWP. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's
written in flash and we've used it successfully with Mac clients --

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Pacitti - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac
that can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3
from cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.

Daniel Pacitti
Developer
ASP Multimedia Limited
T: +44 (0)20 8603 5673
F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911
www.aspevents.net

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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread Drew Harris
You should check out the Beta of HTMLarea, it is what I am using... I 
like it alot!
http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ Version 3.0 Beta 
works in Mozilla 1.3 on all platforms!
-Drew Harris

On Wednesday, Mar 3, 2004, at 07:58 US/Central, Kelly Tetterton wrote:

 No problem. The 3 major pitfalls we've found:


 1) you can't view the html source code (most other editors have some 
 sort of way to toggle between wysiwyg and code);
 2) you must use the editor save button as the form submit (which 
 from a UI perspective can be confusing);
 3) although it claims to be compatible with all flash-compatible 
 browsers, that's not true (it wouldn't work in safari, for instance)


 But it's a lot easier to deal with than the java editors we looked at 
 --

 -Original Message-
 From: A.Little [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:54 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

 Kelly,
 Just out of interest, what have you found to be problematic with 
 eWebWP?
 I'm asking because we're looking at using this tool too, but it would 
 be
 handy to know the experiences from someone who's used it in 'real life'
 ;-)
 Ta,
 Alex
 Ps. Feel free to email me off list if it goes a bit OT.

 -Original Message-
 From: Kelly Tetterton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03 March 2004 13:35
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

 Check out Ektron's eWebWP. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's
 written in flash and we've used it successfully with Mac clients --

 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Pacitti - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:45 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

 Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac
 that can be used in an html form??  We are currently using ActivEdit 3
 from cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.

 Daniel Pacitti
 Developer
 ASP Multimedia Limited
 T: +44 (0)20 8603 5673
 F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911
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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Wednesday 03 Mar 2004 15:31 pm, Drew Harris wrote:
 works in Mozilla 1.3 on all platforms!

And more recent ones too.
I just tried with FireFox 0.8 (fine) and Konquror (broken).

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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread Pete Freitag
Daniel Pacitti - ASP wrote:

 Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac 
 that
 can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3 from
 cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.

Actually the ActivEdit Java Applet will load in Safari 1.2 (and IE as well I believe, if you have the latest jvm on OSX 10.3). ActivEdit 3 will not load the applet on a Mac due to its browser detection, but AE 4 should load it.

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Re: wysiwyg Editor for Macs

2004-03-03 Thread Rob
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 02:44, Daniel Pacitti - ASP wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good wysiwyg editor that is compatable for a Mac that
 can be used in an html form??We are currently using ActivEdit 3 from
 cfdev, but this does not work in a mac environment.

If you interested in developing a solution I'll give you the source code
for my java wysiwyg editor
http://www.rohanclan.com/products/OpenHTMLEditor.cfm
Its not done yet , as you can see , but it does work on Mac (Safari with
10.3 anyway and all the latest patches)

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