Re: application servers
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Re: application servers
On 10/10/06, Richard White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi, thanks for all your replies. This is my first app so forgive my > ignorance as i dont really understand how all of this fits together. > > my app is going to have around 20,000 users but concurrent users im not > sure but we will be testing for early next year. > > As i am seeing from your advice the architecture is that is can either use > JRUN in the production environment or Apache may be better. The enterprise > edition of coldfusion and mysql will be deployed on one of these. and thats > how it first together to work in the production environment, is that > correct? Comparing JRUN to Apache is a apples to oranges comparison, they are two different beasts. Apache is the web server, JRun the app server. I'd suspect you are going to want the enterprise ColdFusion version. This comes with a full version of JRun(read NOT limited, yes a full version). You can then put IIS or Apache web server in front of it. Unless you really need some special J2EE stuff, I'd not even worry about the app server discussion. DK thanks for advice im getting closer to understanding it :) > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:256100 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: application servers
hi, thanks for all your replies. This is my first app so forgive my ignorance as i dont really understand how all of this fits together. my app is going to have around 20,000 users but concurrent users im not sure but we will be testing for early next year. As i am seeing from your advice the architecture is that is can either use JRUN in the production environment or Apache may be better. The enterprise edition of coldfusion and mysql will be deployed on one of these. and thats how it first together to work in the production environment, is that correct? thanks for advice im getting closer to understanding it :) ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:256083 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: application servers
On 10/6/06, Peter Boughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TomCat is free. > > However, unless there's a specific reason for using an app server, I'd just > recommend sitting it atop Apache. > > I've not personally been lucky enough to experience 500 concurrent requests, > but Apache should certainly be able to handle that many, and a well-written > CF application shouldn't have any problems either. > It should be noted that you can't run ColdFusion on Tomcat. This is because Tomcat is simply a servlet container and not a full-blown J2EE server, and ColdFusion needs some of J2EE server-specific features to run. If you want a "free" server, simply use the bundled JRun server that comes with ColdFusion. It'd be nice to see Adobe get CF certified on JBoss, but in the meantime, JRun is perfectly adequate. Regards, Dave. Regards, Dave. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:255799 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: application servers
TomCat is free. However, unless there's a specific reason for using an app server, I'd just recommend sitting it atop Apache. I've not personally been lucky enough to experience 500 concurrent requests, but Apache should certainly be able to handle that many, and a well-written CF application shouldn't have any problems either. >Coldfusion enterprise edition can also run and be deployed as WAR files on >many different application server (CF comes with a limited version of JRUN >for these purposes). I'm not sure where the supported list is, but my guess >is it can be configured to run on any Java application server (such as >websphrere, TomCat, etc). > >You don't need any of those (often expensive) servers to run coldfusion. As >I mentioned, it comes with a limited version of JRUN. I'm not sure if >running it on a enterprise java app server would yield better performance >(or perhaps might be required on certain platforms). > >Russ > >> ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:255770 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: application servers
Coldfusion enterprise edition can also run and be deployed as WAR files on many different application server (CF comes with a limited version of JRUN for these purposes). I'm not sure where the supported list is, but my guess is it can be configured to run on any Java application server (such as websphrere, TomCat, etc). You don't need any of those (often expensive) servers to run coldfusion. As I mentioned, it comes with a limited version of JRUN. I'm not sure if running it on a enterprise java app server would yield better performance (or perhaps might be required on certain platforms). Russ > -Original Message- > From: Cutter (CFRelated) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 3:21 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: application servers > > Richard, > > I'm sorry, maybe I need a little more clarification of what it is you're > trying to do? MySQL interacts with just about anything that supports > JDBC drivers, including ColdFusion, which is in itself a web application > server for hosting CFML based applications (and jsp as well, I think, as > long as you are on Enterprise Edition). I have used MySQL for years in > mixed environments, typically in conjunction with ColdFusion and Apache. > ColdFusion can run on it's own internal server, though it isn't > suggested in a production environment. It really depends upon the > platform you wish to utilize. For Windows I would suggest Apache or > Microsoft's own IIS. For just about anything else I would suggest > Apache, but there are probably dozen's of options to work with. > Adobe.com can give you much better information on supported server > platforms. > > Cutter > > Richard White wrote: > > hi, i am using coldfusion and mysql as the back end database. We are new > to this technology and have been told that mysql interacts with tomcat 5+, > websphere, and sun application server. We are having difficulty in knowing > the advantages to each and what criteria we need to think about when > deciding on the right one to use. > > > > Our application will be for use for about 20,000 users. we think maybe > about 500 concurrent transactions at the most. > > > > would anybody be able to provide us with any help or advice, if we need > to specify more information about our app or the usage then we can > provide, we dont really know where to start with this. > > > > thanks very much for any help > > > > > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:255709 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: application servers
Richard, I'm sorry, maybe I need a little more clarification of what it is you're trying to do? MySQL interacts with just about anything that supports JDBC drivers, including ColdFusion, which is in itself a web application server for hosting CFML based applications (and jsp as well, I think, as long as you are on Enterprise Edition). I have used MySQL for years in mixed environments, typically in conjunction with ColdFusion and Apache. ColdFusion can run on it's own internal server, though it isn't suggested in a production environment. It really depends upon the platform you wish to utilize. For Windows I would suggest Apache or Microsoft's own IIS. For just about anything else I would suggest Apache, but there are probably dozen's of options to work with. Adobe.com can give you much better information on supported server platforms. Cutter Richard White wrote: > hi, i am using coldfusion and mysql as the back end database. We are new to > this technology and have been told that mysql interacts with tomcat 5+, > websphere, and sun application server. We are having difficulty in knowing > the advantages to each and what criteria we need to think about when deciding > on the right one to use. > > Our application will be for use for about 20,000 users. we think maybe about > 500 concurrent transactions at the most. > > would anybody be able to provide us with any help or advice, if we need to > specify more information about our app or the usage then we can provide, we > dont really know where to start with this. > > thanks very much for any help > > ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:255707 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
