RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> there's something SERIOUSLY wrong with your DNS Thomas - I'd 
> sort out that
> dodgy "10" mate - it's reserved for M$ back-office! :-)

It is, really is it ?
RFC's 1918,1597 etc. reserves 10.0.0.0 to 10.255.255.255 for Intranet use
(i.e. they are internal addresses).
Its listed as 'IANA-reserved' by CERT.

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> Actually we have an unpatched (default install) "remote" box
> unconnected to the rest of out network put out as a sitting duck, so
> we can go see what happens to it every few hours,

Honey pots rock, but tend to stick out like a sore thumb to anyone seriously
trying to breach your network for profit.

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dylan Bromby

thousands huh?

the fact is, you can't list a dozen people on this list that you know for
absolute certain are digging around his server in some malicious manner. i'm
not suggesting everyone here is a saint, but i think all these dramatic
suggestions of the behaviours of others is unfounded.

and while we're still on the subject, i think if you're the admin of
machines being hacked based on an exploit that's MONTHS old, you shouldn't
feel victimized. you should feel ignorant. and i wonder, of all the machines
that were vulnerable to this latest round, how many of them actually *use*
MS indexing server? patching services you're not using. brilliant. why don't
we all just run anonymous FTP into our system folders and level the playing
field? maybe we'll stave off
(http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=stave) the hackers because
they won't know where to start...

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


Well since he posted his IP addresses to this list they have been pinged,
tracert'd, checked for code red vunerability, checked for all the usual CF
insecurities, had his entire IP range scanned...

Need I go on?

Its not the fact that its easy for someone to do these things, its the fact
that there are 1000s of subscribers on this list who are now "having a look"
at his server, as well as the unscrupulous people having a good old dig at
his server.

Is that sufficient?

> -Original Message-
> From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 16:26
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> his email domain is cc.uk.com. which i can ping and see the IP
> 193.122.20.2.
> so i could do a port scan in that range and see any machine
> running port 80.
>
> so can you explain to us all what he revealed that wouldn't take
> more than 1
> or 2 minutes for anyone to figure out?
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:05 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your
> servers now
> and abandon these two for all eternity
>
> Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
> yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...
>
> Stephen
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > 193.122.20.5 - Production
> > 193.122.20.8 - Development
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > whats yur ip?  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael T. Tangorre
> > > 
> > > Web Applications Developer
> > > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > > a copy of my
> > > > > IDS logs
> > > >
> > > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz
> getting 404's.
> > >
> > > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > > only show me
> > > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> > >
> > > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > > I write this
> > > >
> > > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > > a *FACT OF
> > >

RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Stephen Moretti

Well since he posted his IP addresses to this list they have been pinged,
tracert'd, checked for code red vunerability, checked for all the usual CF
insecurities, had his entire IP range scanned...

Need I go on?

Its not the fact that its easy for someone to do these things, its the fact
that there are 1000s of subscribers on this list who are now "having a look"
at his server, as well as the unscrupulous people having a good old dig at
his server.

Is that sufficient?

> -Original Message-
> From: Dylan Bromby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 16:26
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> his email domain is cc.uk.com. which i can ping and see the IP
> 193.122.20.2.
> so i could do a port scan in that range and see any machine
> running port 80.
>
> so can you explain to us all what he revealed that wouldn't take
> more than 1
> or 2 minutes for anyone to figure out?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:05 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your
> servers now
> and abandon these two for all eternity
>
> Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
> yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...
>
> Stephen
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > 193.122.20.5 - Production
> > 193.122.20.8 - Development
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > whats yur ip?  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael T. Tangorre
> > > 
> > > Web Applications Developer
> > > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > --------
> > > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > > a copy of my
> > > > > IDS logs
> > > >
> > > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz
> getting 404's.
> > >
> > > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > > only show me
> > > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> > >
> > > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > > I write this
> > > >
> > > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > > a *FACT OF
> > > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> > >
> > > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> > anyone, so far
> > > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > > in the last
> > > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> > >
> > > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > > to do something
> > > > > about it asap.
> > > >
> > > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > > public network
> > > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > > over BugTraq
> > > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> > >
> > > Agreed!
> > >
> > > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > > most have
> > > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > > those are just
> > > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > > destructive to
> > > > the local machine.
> > >
> > > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> > EU academic
> > > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> > >
> > > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> > >
> > > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> > >
> > >   -= Ed
> > >
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Kevin Gilchrist

"Honeypot's" can be pretty interesting
Check out http://project.honeynet.org/

They recorded some IRC conversations too

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Kemp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 12:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


> No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a public 
> network needs to fired, as their not doing their job.

Actually we have an unpatched (default install) "remote" box unconnected to
the rest of out network put out as a sitting duck, so we can go see what
happens to it every few hours, before restoring it to it's "I'm a victim"
state.  For no other reason then it's interesting to see what the hell goes
on in the wild unpatched world of the internet.  All outgoing traffic is
logged and blocked if it seems to be effecting other people (i.e. launching
DDOS attacks etc).

While I think it's of utmost important to patch systems, it's also kinda
cool to try and work out the nitty-gritty of what's actually going on.

The latest excitement is the "h..p://www.worm.com" text changing from black
to red :)


I'm sure people are going to have moral objections to knowingly not patching
a box.  But sometimes it can be the difference between blindly patching a
machine without knowing what's going on, or patching the rest of your
machines with some knowledge.


OB ColdFusion;

When using , what are the speed implications of using the dot
notation vrs the slash notation (name vrs template)?  We may put an
application on a system where they don't allow custom tags, so we may change
all our  from using dot notation to slash.  Then we wondered what
good reasons there were for not doing this anyway.

Cheers,
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dave Watts

> I'm getting quite a few requests like this:
> 
> 00:38:13 202.109.105.67 GET /default.ida 401
> ...
> Interestingly though, my server is password protected. Does 
> IIS log the request even if the page doesn't exist, and even 
> if it did, couldn't be access due to the password protection 
> anyway?

Yes, IIS logs every request, whether or not the request is successful - as
you can see, your server is returning a 401 status code indicating the need
to authenticate first, not a 200, which is what you'd get for a successful
request.

When you use a browser to request a URL that requires authentication, the
process looks like this.

1. Your browser sends the request:
GET /securedpage.html HTTP/1.1
...

2. The server returns a 401 status code.

3. Your browser displays a password prompt.

4. The browser sends the request again, this time with the authentication
info tacked onto the request.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Mark Warrick

I'm getting quite a few requests like this:

00:38:13 202.109.105.67 GET /default.ida 401
02:20:36 24.130.170.100 GET /default.ida 401
02:50:41 194.7.47.130 GET /default.ida 401
04:00:45 65.2.171.167 GET /default.ida 401
04:55:53 211.172.176.231 GET /default.ida 401
05:49:07 12.98.100.6 GET /default.ida 401
06:33:12 63.17.76.22 GET /default.ida 401
06:35:31 216.85.123.121 GET /default.ida 401
07:00:16 200.176.48.234 GET /default.ida 401
07:52:00 163.180.18.14 GET /default.ida 401
08:21:23 210.181.179.242 GET /default.ida 401
08:47:19 210.255.176.132 GET /default.ida 401
08:57:43 216.104.158.213 GET /default.ida 401
09:00:22 210.122.124.118 GET /default.ida 401
10:32:16 139.130.84.98 GET /default.ida 401
11:31:56 24.128.34.95 GET /default.ida 401
12:10:29 209.239.84.85 GET /default.ida 401
12:14:58 61.145.108.35 GET /default.ida 401
12:27:16 203.248.108.241 GET /default.ida 401
13:37:05 211.99.96.131 GET /default.ida 500
13:46:58 202.107.224.234 GET /default.ida 401
14:01:32 63.222.244.124 GET /default.ida 401
14:12:54 155.229.77.166 GET /default.ida 401
15:22:40 210.106.239.202 GET /default.ida 401

Interestingly though, my server is password protected.  Does IIS log the
request even if the page doesn't exist, and even if it did, couldn't be
access due to the password protection anyway?

I've applied the Code Red patch already.  I guess I'm safe!

---mark


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> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> You had better never give out your FQDN either.. you can find the IP
> from that pretty easily..  lol
>
> Jeff Beer
> Senior Programmer Architect
> Hydrogen Media, Inc
> (727) 530-5500 x303
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:18 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > sorry for asking!!! I didn't think you'd take me seriosuly!
> > Wow, I'd change the IPs also; that is good advice.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > 
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:05 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on
> > your servers now
> > and abandon these two for all eternity
> >
> > Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
> > yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > 193.122.20.5 - Production
> > > 193.122.20.8 - Development
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > whats yur ip?  :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Michael T. Tangorre
> > > > 
> > > > Web Applications Developer
> > > > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > > > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > > > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > School Email: [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

> -Original Message-
> While I think it's of utmost important to patch systems, it's also
> kinda cool to try and work out the nitty-gritty of what's actually
> going on.
>
> The latest excitement is the "h..p://www.worm.com" text changing from
> black to red :)
>
> I'm sure people are going to have moral objections to knowingly not
> patching a box.  But sometimes it can be the difference between
> blindly patching a machine without knowing what's going on, or
> patching the rest of your machines with some knowledge.

I couldn't agree more.

Oh, as long as you monitor it there shouldn't be any problem with an
unpatched server... I left my unpatched windows 2k machine up last night and
had a lot of fun watching the attempts

It gets to a point where you can even tell what scanning utility people use
because it always tries the same attacks in the same order..

-= Ed


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

Yeah that's the address of one of Aol's many proxies

I think our firewall just blocked a large swathe of Aol users.

> -Original Message-
> From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 2 August 2001 5:03 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
> 
> 
> > IP: 172.158.23.29
> > DNS: AC9E171D.ipt.aol.com
> 
> Looks like a dial-up luser.
> 
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

I like a bit of positive thinking

It was fun watching the IDS logs too, almost as soon as my email hit the
list there was a scan for vulnerabilities I think our firewall put them
off a bit ;-)

-= Ed

> -Original Message-
> From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 2 August 2001 4:40 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> good bit of a "boost" for your page impressions though (as everyone on the
> list browses and pings you) eh? ;-)
>
> J
> (our IP is http://194.164.87.20 if anyone wants to have a look!)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 16:16
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> LOL, like someone on this list couldn't work it out simply by
> doing a dig on
> our DNS info based on my email address domain Anyone serious about it
> doesn't need me or anyone else to tell them my (or your) IP address.
>
> Besides, they're public servers and I'd like to see Code Red do
> anything at
> all except get itself banned.
>
> :-)
>
> best wishes,
>
>   -= Ed
>
>
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> If you want to be happy, practice compassion."
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Jeff Beer

You had better never give out your FQDN either.. you can find the IP
from that pretty easily..  lol

Jeff Beer
Senior Programmer Architect
Hydrogen Media, Inc
(727) 530-5500 x303
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:18 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
> 
> 
> sorry for asking!!! I didn't think you'd take me seriosuly!
> Wow, I'd change the IPs also; that is good advice.
> 
> 
> 
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> AIM: CrazyFlash4
> Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:05 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
> 
> 
> Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on 
> your servers now
> and abandon these two for all eternity
> 
> Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
> yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...
> 
> Stephen
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > 193.122.20.5 - Production
> > 193.122.20.8 - Development
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > whats yur ip?  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael T. Tangorre
> > > 
> > > Web Applications Developer
> > > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ------------
> > > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > > a copy of my
> > > > > IDS logs
> > > >
> > > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz 
> getting 404's.
> > >
> > > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > > only show me
> > > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> > >
> > > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > > I write this
> > > >
> > > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your 
> system is
> > > > a *FACT OF
> > > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> > >
> > > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> > anyone, so far
> > > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > > in the last
> > > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> > >
> > > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > > to do something
> > > > > about it asap.
> > > >
> > > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > > public network
> > > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > > over BugTraq
> > > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> > >
> > > Agreed!
> > >
> > > > 

RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dylan Bromby

you mean AOL doesn't assign static IPs to its dial-up users?

argh! we've all been had!

-Original Message-
From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: default.ida?


Whomever that was at the time, they'll be something different the next time
they log in

- Original Message -
From: "Edward Chanter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: default.ida?


> Ok, so who is
>
> IP: 172.158.23.29
> DNS: AC9E171D.ipt.aol.com
>
> One of you lot?
>
> best wishes,
>
>   -= Ed
>
>
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> If you want to be happy, practice compassion."
> ~The 14th Dalai Lama
>
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RE: default.ida? A question

2001-08-03 Thread Bud

On 8/2/01, Dave Watts penned:
>I think that Mr. Chiverton's complaint was that simply seeing a request
>doesn't mean that the server is infected. My servers are receiving quite a
>few of these requests, for example, although they've been patched and don't
>respond to .ida requests in any case.

Hey. :)

I'm wondering what the ramifications what might be for this.

I set up a redirect on my web server (O'Reilly). If default.ida is 
requested, I redirect to http://0.0.0.0/. Of course, if you enter 
that in a browser the page never loads (standard Page can't be found 
in IE, error dialogue box in Netscape). It doesn't seem to do 
anything to me except that the logs show a 302 instead of a 404.

http://www.twcreations.com/default.ida?N
-- 

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_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
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Re: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread corrigan

Ok, we get it.  It's not wise to post your IP info on a user group, but any
IT person with half a brain can get it anyways.  I think the horse is dead.


Michael Corrigan
Programmer



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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Bud

On 8/2/01, Stephen Moretti penned:
>Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
>yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...

Why? Anyone can get your IP by doing a trace route or nslookup on 
your domain name.
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread James Maltby

there's something SERIOUSLY wrong with your DNS Thomas - I'd sort out that
dodgy "10" mate - it's reserved for M$ back-office! :-)

J

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 August 2001 16:47
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


> doesn't need me or anyone else to tell them my (or your) IP address.

Well, mines 10.255.x.y so it wouldn't make much difference :_)
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Re: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread G

Whomever that was at the time, they'll be something different the next time
they log in

- Original Message -
From: "Edward Chanter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: default.ida?


> Ok, so who is
>
> IP: 172.158.23.29
> DNS: AC9E171D.ipt.aol.com
>
> One of you lot?
>
> best wishes,
>
>   -= Ed
>
>
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> If you want to be happy, practice compassion."
> ~The 14th Dalai Lama
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Daniel Kemp

> No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> public network needs to fired, as their not doing their job.

Actually we have an unpatched (default install) "remote" box
unconnected to the rest of out network put out as a sitting duck, so
we can go see what happens to it every few hours, before restoring it
to it's "I'm a victim" state.  For no other reason then it's
interesting to see what the hell goes on in the wild unpatched world
of the internet.  All outgoing traffic is logged and blocked if it
seems to be effecting other people (i.e. launching DDOS attacks etc).

While I think it's of utmost important to patch systems, it's also
kinda cool to try and work out the nitty-gritty of what's actually
going on.

The latest excitement is the "h..p://www.worm.com" text changing from
black to red :)


I'm sure people are going to have moral objections to knowingly not
patching a box.  But sometimes it can be the difference between
blindly patching a machine without knowing what's going on, or
patching the rest of your machines with some knowledge.


OB ColdFusion;

When using , what are the speed implications of using the
dot notation vrs the slash notation (name vrs template)?  We may put
an application on a system where they don't allow custom tags, so we
may change all our  from using dot notation to slash.  Then
we wondered what good reasons there were for not doing this anyway.

Cheers,
Dan.



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Re: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread G

I think we all know that resolving an IP is relatively easy to do. However,
publishing your IP in a public forum is still not advisable, as it tends to
make you "stick out". Its sort of like standing up in a crowd of
pick-pockets and saying: "hey everyone, i'm over here...bet you can't steal
MY wallet".

Brian
- Original Message -
From: "Daniel Lancelot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: default.ida?


> Come on - If anyone wanted to get the ip for his live server - all they
have
> to do is:
>
> C:\>ping www.cc.uk.com
>
> Pinging dynamic.cc.uk.com [193.122.20.5] with 32 bytes of data:
>
> An IP addy is hardly confidetial info... any "unscrupulous people on this
> list" would quite easily be able to do that...
>
> Dan.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 16:05
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your servers
now
> and abandon these two for all eternity
>
> Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
> yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...
>
> Stephen
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > 193.122.20.5 - Production
> > 193.122.20.8 - Development
> >
> > Why?
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > whats yur ip?  :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael T. Tangorre
> > > 
> > > Web Applications Developer
> > > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > > a copy of my
> > > > > IDS logs
> > > >
> > > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting
404's.
> > >
> > > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > > only show me
> > > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> > >
> > > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > > I write this
> > > >
> > > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > > a *FACT OF
> > > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> > >
> > > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> > anyone, so far
> > > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > > in the last
> > > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> > >
> > > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > > to do something
> > > > > about it asap.
> > > >
> > > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > > public network
> > > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > > over BugTraq
> > > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> > >
> > > Agreed!
> > >
> > > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > > most have
> > > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > > those are just
> > > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > > destructive to
> > > > the local machine.
> > >
> > > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> > EU academic
> > > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> > >
> > > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> > >
> > > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> > >
> > > -= Ed
> > >
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> IP: 172.158.23.29
> DNS: AC9E171D.ipt.aol.com

Looks like a dial-up luser.

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

Amen!

> -Original Message-
> his email domain is cc.uk.com. which i can ping and see the IP 
> 193.122.20.2.
> so i could do a port scan in that range and see any machine 
> running port 80.
> 
> so can you explain to us all what he revealed that wouldn't take 
> more than 1
> or 2 minutes for anyone to figure out?


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> doesn't need me or anyone else to tell them my (or your) IP address.

Well, mines 10.255.x.y so it wouldn't make much difference :_)

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread James Maltby

good bit of a "boost" for your page impressions though (as everyone on the
list browses and pings you) eh? ;-)

J
(our IP is http://194.164.87.20 if anyone wants to have a look!)

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 August 2001 16:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


LOL, like someone on this list couldn't work it out simply by doing a dig on
our DNS info based on my email address domain Anyone serious about it
doesn't need me or anyone else to tell them my (or your) IP address.

Besides, they're public servers and I'd like to see Code Red do anything at
all except get itself banned.

:-)

best wishes,

  -= Ed


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Daniel Lancelot

Come on - If anyone wanted to get the ip for his live server - all they have
to do is:

C:\>ping www.cc.uk.com

Pinging dynamic.cc.uk.com [193.122.20.5] with 32 bytes of data:

An IP addy is hardly confidetial info... any "unscrupulous people on this
list" would quite easily be able to do that...

Dan.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 August 2001 16:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your servers now
and abandon these two for all eternity

Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...

Stephen

> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> 193.122.20.5 - Production
> 193.122.20.8 - Development
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > whats yur ip?  :-)
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > ------------
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > a copy of my
> > > > IDS logs
> > >
> > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
> >
> > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > only show me
> > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> >
> > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > I write this
> > >
> > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > a *FACT OF
> > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> >
> > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> anyone, so far
> > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > in the last
> > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> >
> > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > to do something
> > > > about it asap.
> > >
> > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > public network
> > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > over BugTraq
> > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > most have
> > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > those are just
> > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > destructive to
> > > the local machine.
> >
> > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> EU academic
> > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> >
> > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dylan Bromby

his email domain is cc.uk.com. which i can ping and see the IP 193.122.20.2.
so i could do a port scan in that range and see any machine running port 80.

so can you explain to us all what he revealed that wouldn't take more than 1
or 2 minutes for anyone to figure out?

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your servers now
and abandon these two for all eternity

Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...

Stephen

> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> 193.122.20.5 - Production
> 193.122.20.8 - Development
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > whats yur ip?  :-)
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > ------------
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > a copy of my
> > > > IDS logs
> > >
> > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
> >
> > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > only show me
> > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> >
> > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > I write this
> > >
> > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > a *FACT OF
> > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> >
> > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> anyone, so far
> > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > in the last
> > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> >
> > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > to do something
> > > > about it asap.
> > >
> > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > public network
> > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > over BugTraq
> > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > most have
> > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > those are just
> > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > destructive to
> > > the local machine.
> >
> > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> EU academic
> > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> >
> > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

Ok, so who is

IP: 172.158.23.29
DNS: AC9E171D.ipt.aol.com

One of you lot?

best wishes,

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Tangorre, Mike

sorry for asking!!! I didn't think you'd take me seriosuly!
Wow, I'd change the IPs also; that is good advice.



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-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 11:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your servers now
and abandon these two for all eternity

Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...

Stephen

> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> 193.122.20.5 - Production
> 193.122.20.8 - Development
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > whats yur ip?  :-)
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > --------
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > a copy of my
> > > > IDS logs
> > >
> > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
> >
> > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > only show me
> > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> >
> > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > I write this
> > >
> > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > a *FACT OF
> > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> >
> > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> anyone, so far
> > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > in the last
> > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> >
> > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > to do something
> > > > about it asap.
> > >
> > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > public network
> > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > over BugTraq
> > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > most have
> > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > those are just
> > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > destructive to
> > > the local machine.
> >
> > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> EU academic
> > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> >
> > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

LOL, like someone on this list couldn't work it out simply by doing a dig on
our DNS info based on my email address domain Anyone serious about it
doesn't need me or anyone else to tell them my (or your) IP address.

Besides, they're public servers and I'd like to see Code Red do anything at
all except get itself banned.

:-)

best wishes,

  -= Ed


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

I should hope so too!!!

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard Kuryk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 4:01 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> Your system is "Patched! NT 4 system" According to the code red scanner.
>
> Rich
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:50 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> 193.122.20.5 - Production
> 193.122.20.8 - Development
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > whats yur ip?  :-)
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > 
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > a copy of my
> > > > IDS logs
> > >
> > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
> >
> > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > only show me
> > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> >
> > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > I write this
> > >
> > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > a *FACT OF
> > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> >
> > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> anyone, so far
> > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > in the last
> > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> >
> > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > to do something
> > > > about it asap.
> > >
> > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > public network
> > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > over BugTraq
> > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > most have
> > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > those are just
> > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > destructive to
> > > the local machine.
> >
> > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> EU academic
> > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> >
> > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC

FWIW,

I don't believe that Michael is being infected.  I remember reading
somewhere, that if the machine was vulnerable to the expliot, the code
execution would occur before the request was ever written to the log
file, and thus there would be no trace of it.

On the flip side of things, if the machine is trying to be compromised
unsuccessfully, but the proper protection is in place (patch, or remove
.idq / .ida from IIS mappings) then the request will show up in the log
file.

Jay Sudowski
-
Handy Networks LLC
TEL: 877-70-HANDY
FAX: 888-300-2FAX
URL: www.handynetworks.com <http://www.handynetworks.com> 
-
Providing reseller and dedicated Windows 2000 web hosting solutions.


-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: default.ida?


Michael Lugassy wrote:

> I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?


You've got to be kidding. Doesn't "Code Red" ring any bells?

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Carlisle, Eric

1st "Ask Why", THEN give info. :)

Eric Carlisle 


-Original Message-
From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


doh!  If you didn't have red wormy you'll probably get it now - posting ip's
to a chat list - shame on you... ;-)

J

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


193.122.20.5 - Production
193.122.20.8 - Development

Why?



> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> whats yur ip?  :-)
>
>
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> AIM: CrazyFlash4
> Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > a copy of my
> > > IDS logs
> >
> > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
>
> :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> only show me
> the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
>
> > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > I write this
> >
> > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > a *FACT OF
> > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
>
> Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
> today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> in the last
> 12 hours. That is unusual.
>
> > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > to do something
> > > about it asap.
> >
> > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> public network
> > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > over BugTraq
> > et al. well before Code Red was released.
>
> Agreed!
>
> > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > most have
> > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > those are just
> > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> destructive to
> > the local machine.
>
> Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
> one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
>
> I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
>
> We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
>
>   -= Ed
>
~~
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Stephen Moretti

Might be an idea to go away and change the IP addresses on your servers now
and abandon these two for all eternity

Never put this kind of information out on the list.  You are openning
yourself up to abuse by the few unscrupulous people on this list...

Stephen

> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> 193.122.20.5 - Production
> 193.122.20.8 - Development
>
> Why?
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > whats yur ip?  :-)
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > --------
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > a copy of my
> > > > IDS logs
> > >
> > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
> >
> > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > only show me
> > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> >
> > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > I write this
> > >
> > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > a *FACT OF
> > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> >
> > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks
> anyone, so far
> > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > in the last
> > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> >
> > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > to do something
> > > > about it asap.
> > >
> > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > public network
> > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > over BugTraq
> > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > most have
> > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > those are just
> > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > destructive to
> > > the local machine.
> >
> > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and
> EU academic
> > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> >
> > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Shawn Grover

Agreed, but only if you are not using the index server, or have no .ida
files in your sites.  Your best bet is to get the Patch from microsoft (if
you haven't already).  If you are only seeing the request in your log files,
then you are probably seeing the Code Red Worm trying to get at your server.
If it does get in, you'll find IIS will stop responding to page requests
after a while.

Shawn Grover

-Original Message-
From: Neil Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 6:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


.ida is part of the indexing service which is vulnerable to the hack via
buffer overflow; you should remove the ISAP filter from the IIS manager
configuration
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Tangorre, Mike

i know, i said it as a joke
Gesh, shame on you!



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-Original Message-
From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


doh!  If you didn't have red wormy you'll probably get it now - posting ip's
to a chat list - shame on you... ;-)

J

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


193.122.20.5 - Production
193.122.20.8 - Development

Why?



> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> whats yur ip?  :-)
>
>
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> AIM: CrazyFlash4
> Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > a copy of my
> > > IDS logs
> >
> > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
>
> :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> only show me
> the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
>
> > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > I write this
> >
> > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > a *FACT OF
> > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
>
> Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
> today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> in the last
> 12 hours. That is unusual.
>
> > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > to do something
> > > about it asap.
> >
> > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> public network
> > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > over BugTraq
> > et al. well before Code Red was released.
>
> Agreed!
>
> > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > most have
> > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > those are just
> > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> destructive to
> > the local machine.
>
> Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
> one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
>
> I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
>
> We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
>
>   -= Ed
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Richard Kuryk

Your system is "Patched! NT 4 system" According to the code red scanner.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


193.122.20.5 - Production
193.122.20.8 - Development

Why?



> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> whats yur ip?  :-)
>
>
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> AIM: CrazyFlash4
> Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > a copy of my
> > > IDS logs
> >
> > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
>
> :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> only show me
> the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
>
> > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > I write this
> >
> > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > a *FACT OF
> > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
>
> Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
> today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> in the last
> 12 hours. That is unusual.
>
> > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > to do something
> > > about it asap.
> >
> > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> public network
> > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > over BugTraq
> > et al. well before Code Red was released.
>
> Agreed!
>
> > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > most have
> > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > those are just
> > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> destructive to
> > the local machine.
>
> Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
> one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
>
> I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
>
> We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
>
>   -= Ed
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Neil Clark

you are talking about the .htr bug



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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Rich Wild

James! Back to the UK cfug list! do some work!

> -Original Message-
> From: James Maltby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 15:52
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
> 
> 
> doh!  If you didn't have red wormy you'll probably get it now 
> - posting ip's
> to a chat list - shame on you... ;-)
> 
> J
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
> 
> 
> 193.122.20.5 - Production
> 193.122.20.8 - Development
> 
> Why?
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > whats yur ip?  :-)
> >
> >
> > Michael T. Tangorre
> > 
> > Web Applications Developer
> > Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> > Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> > AIM: CrazyFlash4
> > Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> > Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> > is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> > 
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: default.ida?
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > > a copy of my
> > > > IDS logs
> > >
> > > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz 
> getting 404's.
> >
> > :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> > only show me
> > the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
> >
> > > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > > I write this
> > >
> > > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > > a *FACT OF
> > > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
> >
> > Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks 
> anyone, so far
> > today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> > in the last
> > 12 hours. That is unusual.
> >
> > > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > > to do something
> > > > about it asap.
> > >
> > > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> > public network
> > > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > > over BugTraq
> > > et al. well before Code Red was released.
> >
> > Agreed!
> >
> > > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > > most have
> > > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > > those are just
> > > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> > destructive to
> > > the local machine.
> >
> > Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US 
> and EU academic
> > one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
> >
> > I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought 
> would take
> > action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
> >
> > We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
> >
> > -= Ed
> >
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread James Maltby

doh!  If you didn't have red wormy you'll probably get it now - posting ip's
to a chat list - shame on you... ;-)

J

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 02 August 2001 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


193.122.20.5 - Production
193.122.20.8 - Development

Why?



> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> whats yur ip?  :-)
>
>
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> AIM: CrazyFlash4
> Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > a copy of my
> > > IDS logs
> >
> > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
>
> :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> only show me
> the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
>
> > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > I write this
> >
> > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > a *FACT OF
> > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
>
> Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
> today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> in the last
> 12 hours. That is unusual.
>
> > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > to do something
> > > about it asap.
> >
> > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> public network
> > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > over BugTraq
> > et al. well before Code Red was released.
>
> Agreed!
>
> > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > most have
> > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > those are just
> > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> destructive to
> > the local machine.
>
> Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
> one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
>
> I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
>
> We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
>
>   -= Ed
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Carlisle, Eric


I apologize for my "out of context" responses to this issue.  Exchange
server problems earlier this morning delayed the messages and sent them in
the wrong order. :/

 Sincerely,
 Eric Carlisle
 x4739




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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

193.122.20.5 - Production
193.122.20.8 - Development

Why?



> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 3:34 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> whats yur ip?  :-)
>
>
> Michael T. Tangorre
> 
> Web Applications Developer
> Office Phone: 703-558-4746
> Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
> AIM: CrazyFlash4
> Personal Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Work Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> School Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> This Email contains MillenniuM Information
> Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
> is Customer or Business Sensitive.
> 
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: default.ida?
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > > a copy of my
> > > IDS logs
> >
> > Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.
>
> :-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and
> only show me
> the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.
>
> > > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > > I write this
> >
> > Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> > a *FACT OF
> > LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> > My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !
>
> Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
> today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses
> in the last
> 12 hours. That is unusual.
>
> > > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > > to do something
> > > about it asap.
> >
> > No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a
> public network
> > needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> > over BugTraq
> > et al. well before Code Red was released.
>
> Agreed!
>
> > But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> > most have
> > no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> > those are just
> > the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non
> destructive to
> > the local machine.
>
> Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
> one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0
>
> I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
> action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)
>
> We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so
>
>   -= Ed
>
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Tangorre, Mike

whats yur ip?  :-)


Michael T. Tangorre

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Office Phone: 703-558-4746
Cellular Phone: 607-426-9277
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This Email contains MillenniuM Information
Systems, LLC Privileged Information which
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-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 10:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


> -Original Message-
> > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > a copy of my
> > IDS logs
>
> Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.

:-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and only show me
the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.

> > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > I write this
>
> Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> a *FACT OF
> LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !

Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses in the last
12 hours. That is unusual.

> > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > to do something
> > about it asap.
>
> No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a public network
> needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> over BugTraq
> et al. well before Code Red was released.

Agreed!

> But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> most have
> no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> those are just
> the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non destructive to
> the local machine.

Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0

I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)

We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so

-= Ed
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

> -Original Message-
> > I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see
> > a copy of my
> > IDS logs
>
> Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.

:-) I did say IDS logs though, they filter out all the crap and only show me
the ISAPI Extension Overflow errors.

> > There are a large number of attacks going on as
> > I write this
>
> Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is
> a *FACT OF
> LIFE* for a system on the internet.
> My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !

Tell me about it, then again, my server very rarely blocks anyone, so far
today it's implemented over  300 24 bans on various IP addresses in the last
12 hours. That is unusual.

> > and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs
> > to do something
> > about it asap.
>
> No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a public network
> needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all
> over BugTraq
> et al. well before Code Red was released.

Agreed!

> But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate,
> most have
> no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and
> those are just
> the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non destructive to
> the local machine.

Lot's of Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Mexicans and a few US and EU academic
one's as well.. There are even some coming in as 0.0.0.0

I have had a few responses from some of the ones  I thought would take
action, some very sheepish IISadmins out there :-)

We're averaging a new attempt every minute or so

-= Ed



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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Carlisle, Eric

Yup.  Some hole in IIS that permits viewing the source of ASP pages (wonder
if it works for CF as well).  There's a patch for it.  Search around at
http://www.microsoft.com/security/ .

Regards,
Eric Carlisle

-Original Message-
From: Michael Lugassy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: default.ida?


I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?

Michael.
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dylan Bromby

the point is this: if your logging requests for default.ida, it does NOT
necessarily mean you are infected with code red. and whether you see
requests for .ida or .idq, it is practical - especially with the recent
release of free tools - to scan your system and take appropriate measures to
best protect your system.

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see a copy of my
IDS logs There are a large number of attacks going on as I write this
and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs to do something
about it asap.


best wishes,

  -= Ed


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If you want to be happy, practice compassion."
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dave Watts

> I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see 
> a copy of my IDS logs There are a large number of attacks 
> going on as I write this and anyone running an unpatched/
> unprotected IIS server needs to do something about it asap.

I think that Mr. Chiverton's complaint was that simply seeing a request
doesn't mean that the server is infected. My servers are receiving quite a
few of these requests, for example, although they've been patched and don't
respond to .ida requests in any case. If the server had been patched in late
June when the patch became available, or if the unused ISAPI mappings had
been removed per the IIS configuration guidelines
(http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/itsoluti
ons/security/tools/iischk.asp) then the server wouldn't be vulnerable.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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Re: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Edward Chanter wrote:

> I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see a copy of my
> IDS logs There are a large number of attacks going on as I write this
> and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs to do something
> about it asap.

So let's establish first whether somebody is running IIS, then whether 
it is unpatched, then whether it is unprotected and only if the answer 
to all of those is "Yes" it is time to shoot the administrator.

IMHO, before all of those are established screaming that some server is 
infected qualifies as hysteria.

Jochem


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see 
> a copy of my
> IDS logs 

Not really, no. They tend to be boring and full of kidz getting 404's.

> There are a large number of attacks going on as 
> I write this

Woo-wee - where have you been ? An ongoing scan of your system is a *FACT OF
LIFE* for a system on the internet.
My dial-up gateway at home gets scanned !

> and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs 
> to do something
> about it asap.

No, anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server on a public network
needs to fired, as their not doing their job. The patch was all over BugTraq
et al. well before Code Red was released. 

But, if you look at the domains from which these scans originate, most have
no reverse look-up, or are from ISP's like @home  and those are just
the people who wont care, because Code Red version 2 is non destructive to
the local machine.

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> > Has the .ida 
> > mapping been removed too (that would give you an error like 
> > your seeing) ?
> (YES)

Well, guess why your .ida URL fails then ?

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

I don't actually think it's hysteria mate, do you want to see a copy of my
IDS logs There are a large number of attacks going on as I write this
and anyone running an unpatched/unprotected IIS server needs to do something
about it asap.


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Chuck Hergenroeder

Thanks Tom. 
 
> Did you install it ?  (YES) Have you verified it ? (YES) Has the .ida 
> mapping been removed too (that would give you an error like your seeing) ?
(YES)

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?

> Here is my scenario.  I view the stats on my web site, and the page
> requested is default.ida.  Now those requests are on my list 
> of error pages
> not found.  Does this mean that I have Code Red, or does this 
> mean that Code
> Red is trying to get into my system?  

If it's comming from seemingly random IP's, its code red knocking.

> According to what you 
> are saying, I
> have Code Red, but the patch has already been installed on my server.

Did you install it ? Have you verified it ? Has the .ida mapping been
removed too (that would give you an error like your seeing) ?

Ignore Ed - his sort of hysteria is exactly the wrong course of action, and
seems to have been inflamed by over the top media coverage.
MS released the patch a *month* ago FFS, if you're only just doing a
heads-up to it, imho, you shouldn't be running a web server.
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Carlisle, Eric

That's right (whoops).  I'm getting this confused with something else.  Not
sure if there is a patch for this after all.

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.ida is part of the indexing service which is vulnerable to the hack via
buffer overflow; you should remove the ISAP filter from the IIS manager
configuration
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> Here is my scenario.  I view the stats on my web site, and the page
> requested is default.ida.  Now those requests are on my list 
> of error pages
> not found.  Does this mean that I have Code Red, or does this 
> mean that Code
> Red is trying to get into my system?  

If it's comming from seemingly random IP's, its code red knocking.

> According to what you 
> are saying, I
> have Code Red, but the patch has already been installed on my server.

Did you install it ? Have you verified it ? Has the .ida mapping been
removed too (that would give you an error like your seeing) ?

Ignore Ed - his sort of hysteria is exactly the wrong course of action, and
seems to have been inflamed by over the top media coverage.
MS released the patch a *month* ago FFS, if you're only just doing a
heads-up to it, imho, you shouldn't be running a web server.

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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Richard Kuryk

Do you run IIS?  If you don't run IIS or have applied the latest MS patches
and rebooted you have nothing to worry about.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Hergenroeder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?


Here is my scenario.  I view the stats on my web site, and the page
requested is default.ida.  Now those requests are on my list of error pages
not found.  Does this mean that I have Code Red, or does this mean that Code
Red is trying to get into my system?  According to what you are saying, I
have Code Red, but the patch has already been installed on my server.

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?

> -Original Message-
> > I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> > are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?


YOU ARE INFECTED WITH CODE RED

Please shut down your IIS, patch it and then restart!


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Chuck Hergenroeder

Here is my scenario.  I view the stats on my web site, and the page
requested is default.ida.  Now those requests are on my list of error pages
not found.  Does this mean that I have Code Red, or does this mean that Code
Red is trying to get into my system?  According to what you are saying, I
have Code Red, but the patch has already been installed on my server.

-Original Message-
From: Edward Chanter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: default.ida?

> -Original Message-
> > I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> > are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?


YOU ARE INFECTED WITH CODE RED

Please shut down your IIS, patch it and then restart!


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  -= Ed


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Re: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Dirk De Bock

To find that entry in your logs does not mean that you're infected
obviously.

- Original Message -
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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: default.ida?


> > -Original Message-
> > > I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> > > are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?
>
>
> YOU ARE INFECTED WITH CODE RED
>
> Please shut down your IIS, patch it and then restart!
>
>
> best wishes,
>
>   -= Ed
>
>
> If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
> If you want to be happy, practice compassion."
> ~The 14th Dalai Lama
>
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Re: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Michael Lugassy wrote:

> I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?


You've got to be kidding. Doesn't "Code Red" ring any bells?

Jochem


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Edward Chanter

> -Original Message-
> > I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> > are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?


YOU ARE INFECTED WITH CODE RED

Please shut down your IIS, patch it and then restart!


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Steven P. Johnson

Michael,

The .ida extension is used as part of Microsoft Indexing Services for IIS.
It is currently the focal point for the Code Red worm that is in the press.
If you have not patched you server you may want to download the patch from
Microsoft and read the associated press release.

- Steve Johnson



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Subject: default.ida?


I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?

Michael.
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Craig Dudley

Index server, similar to .idq I think.

I'm pretty sure that's one of the ways the code red worm tries to get in.

We don't use index server here, so we disabled all references to it in IIS
application management.


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I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?

Michael.
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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Thomas Chiverton

> I keep seeing on the log files some default.ida request.
> are those hacking attempts? what is this file do?

If your running IIS, you're probably in trouble.


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RE: default.ida?

2001-08-03 Thread Neil Clark

.ida is part of the indexing service which is vulnerable to the hack via
buffer overflow; you should remove the ISAP filter from the IIS manager
configuration




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