Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-16 Thread Donnie Bachan (Gmail)

You'll need to purchase the developer edition for SSIS. It's not free but
has full standard level features and is pretty affordable $50 US  at NewEgg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416455&Tpk=sql%20server%20developer

Best Regards,
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On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Carl Von Stetten
wrote:

>
> I spoke too soon.  The installer with tools provides limited replication
> support and SSMS, but not SSIS.
> -Carl V.
>
> On 11/15/2012 4:30 PM, Carl Von Stetten wrote:
> > Starting with SQL Server Express 2008 R2 (and maybe some prior
> > versions), you can download an installer that includes the SSMS tools,
> > which I think includes SSIS as well.
> > -Carl V.
> > On 11/15/2012 1:32 PM, Mike Kear wrote:
> >> the things cut out of the express version are the kinds of things we use
> >> coldfusion for anyway.  I havent found any issues at all in connecting
> >> SQLexpress versions and Coldfusion.  The only issues I've had are to do
> >> with things like the lack of SSIS which makes things like moving data to
> >> online more difficult that's all.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Mike Kear
> >> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> >> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> >> AFP Webworks
> >> http://afpwebworks.com
> >> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Works just like the full version, and it's what I use on my VPS.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Kevin Parker <
> tras...@internode.on.net
>  wrote:
>  Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for
> >>> development?
> 
> 
>  Thank you
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  ++
> 
>  Kevin Parker
> 
> 
> 
>  M: 0418 815 527
> 
> 
> 
>  ++
> 
> >>
> >>
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-16 Thread Carl Von Stetten

I spoke too soon.  The installer with tools provides limited replication 
support and SSMS, but not SSIS.
-Carl V.

On 11/15/2012 4:30 PM, Carl Von Stetten wrote:
> Starting with SQL Server Express 2008 R2 (and maybe some prior 
> versions), you can download an installer that includes the SSMS tools, 
> which I think includes SSIS as well.
> -Carl V.
> On 11/15/2012 1:32 PM, Mike Kear wrote:
>> the things cut out of the express version are the kinds of things we use
>> coldfusion for anyway.  I havent found any issues at all in connecting
>> SQLexpress versions and Coldfusion.  The only issues I've had are to do
>> with things like the lack of SSIS which makes things like moving data to
>> online more difficult that's all.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mike Kear
>> Windsor, NSW, Australia
>> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
>> AFP Webworks
>> http://afpwebworks.com
>> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Works just like the full version, and it's what I use on my VPS.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Kevin Parker >>> wrote:
 Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for
>>> development?


 Thank you





 ++

 Kevin Parker



 M: 0418 815 527



 ++

>>
>> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Carl Von Stetten

Starting with SQL Server Express 2008 R2 (and maybe some prior 
versions), you can download an installer that includes the SSMS tools, 
which I think includes SSIS as well.
-Carl V.
On 11/15/2012 1:32 PM, Mike Kear wrote:
> the things cut out of the express version are the kinds of things we use
> coldfusion for anyway.  I havent found any issues at all in connecting
> SQLexpress versions and Coldfusion.  The only issues I've had are to do
> with things like the lack of SSIS which makes things like moving data to
> online more difficult that's all.
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus 
> wrote:
>
>> Works just like the full version, and it's what I use on my VPS.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Kevin Parker >> wrote:
>>> Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for
>> development?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++
>>>
>>> Kevin Parker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> M: 0418 815 527
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++
>>>
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Russ Michaels

When I last used that trick the management studio never stopped working,
only sql server, so unlrss they have changed that, its a free way to get
more features out of express edition.

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On Nov 15, 2012 11:54 PM, "Gerald Guido"  wrote:

>
> >
> > Or downliad the full trial version with tools and get studio from there
> > instead.
>
>
>
> Yeah, what Russ said. I think the trial version is good for 6 months.
>
> IIRC you can also get the MSSQL developer edition for $40-$50. It is
> the equivalent of the Enterprise version. Not sure if
> the Licencing allows you to use Management Studio to push changes to
> production Databases. I don't see why not.
>
> You might be eligible to get the Web addition for free via
> the WebsiteSpark program http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/
>
> Web edition removes the Ram and Database size limitations. It might
> be worth a try.
>
> In any event, here is the feature matrix for the different versions.
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc645993(v=SQL.110).aspx
>
> HTH
>
> G!
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Russ Michaels 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > You do get ssis and backups its just not in the sql management studio so
> > you have to script it.
> > Or downliad the full trial version with tools and get studio from there
> > instead.
> >
> > Regards
> > Russ Michaels
> > www.michaels.me.uk
> > www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> > www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> > On Nov 15, 2012 10:25 PM, "Justin Scott"  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > > Oh, and I don't think you can run scheduled backups either. Which
> > > > is an issue when using it in production.
> > >
> > > We use Tomahawk Backup on some of our web servers to back up the
> > > website code and images to both local and off-site storage.  Tomahawk
> > > (and many other backup utilities) will interface with SQL Server (even
> > > the Express edition which we have deployed in production in a few
> > > places) and back up your databases locally and off-site as well.
> > > Works out pretty well.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Justin Scott
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Gerald Guido

>
> Or downliad the full trial version with tools and get studio from there
> instead.



Yeah, what Russ said. I think the trial version is good for 6 months.

IIRC you can also get the MSSQL developer edition for $40-$50. It is
the equivalent of the Enterprise version. Not sure if
the Licencing allows you to use Management Studio to push changes to
production Databases. I don't see why not.

You might be eligible to get the Web addition for free via
the WebsiteSpark program http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/

Web edition removes the Ram and Database size limitations. It might
be worth a try.

In any event, here is the feature matrix for the different versions.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc645993(v=SQL.110).aspx

HTH

G!

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Russ Michaels  wrote:

>
> You do get ssis and backups its just not in the sql management studio so
> you have to script it.
> Or downliad the full trial version with tools and get studio from there
> instead.
>
> Regards
> Russ Michaels
> www.michaels.me.uk
> www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
> www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
> On Nov 15, 2012 10:25 PM, "Justin Scott"  wrote:
>
> >
> > > Oh, and I don't think you can run scheduled backups either. Which
> > > is an issue when using it in production.
> >
> > We use Tomahawk Backup on some of our web servers to back up the
> > website code and images to both local and off-site storage.  Tomahawk
> > (and many other backup utilities) will interface with SQL Server (even
> > the Express edition which we have deployed in production in a few
> > places) and back up your databases locally and off-site as well.
> > Works out pretty well.
> >
> >
> > -Justin Scott
> >
> >
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Russ Michaels

You do get ssis and backups its just not in the sql management studio so
you have to script it.
Or downliad the full trial version with tools and get studio from there
instead.

Regards
Russ Michaels
www.michaels.me.uk
www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers
www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine
On Nov 15, 2012 10:25 PM, "Justin Scott"  wrote:

>
> > Oh, and I don't think you can run scheduled backups either. Which
> > is an issue when using it in production.
>
> We use Tomahawk Backup on some of our web servers to back up the
> website code and images to both local and off-site storage.  Tomahawk
> (and many other backup utilities) will interface with SQL Server (even
> the Express edition which we have deployed in production in a few
> places) and back up your databases locally and off-site as well.
> Works out pretty well.
>
>
> -Justin Scott
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Justin Scott

> Oh, and I don't think you can run scheduled backups either. Which
> is an issue when using it in production.

We use Tomahawk Backup on some of our web servers to back up the
website code and images to both local and off-site storage.  Tomahawk
(and many other backup utilities) will interface with SQL Server (even
the Express edition which we have deployed in production in a few
places) and back up your databases locally and off-site as well.
Works out pretty well.


-Justin Scott

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread .jonah

Oh, and I don't think you can run scheduled backups either. Which is an 
issue when using it in production.


On 11/15/12 1:32 PM, Mike Kear wrote:
> the things cut out of the express version are the kinds of things we use
> coldfusion for anyway.  I havent found any issues at all in connecting
> SQLexpress versions and Coldfusion.  The only issues I've had are to do
> with things like the lack of SSIS which makes things like moving data to
> online more difficult that's all.
>
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus 
> wrote:
>
>> Works just like the full version, and it's what I use on my VPS.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Kevin Parker >> wrote:
>>> Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for
>> development?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++
>>>
>>> Kevin Parker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> M: 0418 815 527
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ++
>>>
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Mike Kear

the things cut out of the express version are the kinds of things we use
coldfusion for anyway.  I havent found any issues at all in connecting
SQLexpress versions and Coldfusion.  The only issues I've had are to do
with things like the lack of SSIS which makes things like moving data to
online more difficult that's all.

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month


On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 6:32 AM, Pete Ruckelshaus wrote:

>
> Works just like the full version, and it's what I use on my VPS.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Kevin Parker  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for
> development?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ++
> >
> > Kevin Parker
> >
> >
> >
> > M: 0418 815 527
> >
> >
> >
> > ++
> >
>


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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus

Works just like the full version, and it's what I use on my VPS.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:23 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:

>
> Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for development?
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> ++
>
> Kevin Parker
>
>
>
> M: 0418 815 527
>
>
>
> ++
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Re: SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread .jonah

Works fine for me. (I think it has a 2GB database size limit.) It also 
doesn't support DTS and some other nice management functionality, but 
most of the features of Enterprise Manager are there.

On 11/15/12 2:23 AM, Kevin Parker wrote:
> Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for development?
>
>   
>
> Thank you
>
>   
>
>   
>
> ++
>
> Kevin Parker
>
>   
>
> M: 0418 815 527
>
>   
>
> ++
>
>   
>
>
>
> 

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SQL Express and CF

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Parker

Are there any issues using Express versions of SQL Server for development?

 

Thank you

 

 

++

Kevin Parker

 

M: 0418 815 527

 

++

 



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