Re: resend: CFLOCATION, SSL and Netscape 6

2003-01-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> 
> Have seen it a few times, but never Netscape only. Pretty much the only 
> thing you can do is to verify that your server is sending the correct 
> HTTP headers. For thatm telnet to the pages that give a redirect and see 
> if they do.

On second thought, this is slightly impractical since we are talking 
SSL. A sniffer that integrates into the browser might be a solution, but 
asking the client to upgrade is the easiest.

Jochem

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Re: resend: CFLOCATION, SSL and Netscape 6

2003-01-06 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Everett, Al wrote:
> (This doesn't seem to have made it to the list on Friday)

It made it.


> Everything in checkout is server-side, except for a CFLOCATION or two. I
> suspect that the browser isn't following the redirect properly (Error 302,
> isn't it?).

Statuscode 302.


> Has anyone else encountered such a thing?

Have seen it a few times, but never Netscape only. Pretty much the only 
thing you can do is to verify that your server is sending the correct 
HTTP headers. For thatm telnet to the pages that give a redirect and see 
if they do.

Upgrading is probably the best route unless the customer can give more 
detailed information.

Jochem

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resend: CFLOCATION, SSL and Netscape 6

2003-01-06 Thread Everett, Al
(This doesn't seem to have made it to the list on Friday)

One of our customers seems to be having a problem with out checkout pages.
He is using Netscape 6 (don't know what dot-version; I suspect an early one)
and claims that he can't get through our multi-step checkout.

True to form, he cannot describe the actual error, where it appears, or
anything useful. We haven't been able to re-create it with Netscape 6.2, and
the vast majority of our customers (90+% use IE) have had no issues since we
implemented this months ago.

Everything in checkout is server-side, except for a CFLOCATION or two. I
suspect that the browser isn't following the redirect properly (Error 302,
isn't it?). Has anyone else encountered such a thing?

We are not inclined to make major changes for one customer with a problem he
cannot describe and that we cannot duplicate, but would getting him to at
least upgrade to 6.2 make this all go away?

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CFLOCATION, SSL and Netscape 6

2003-01-03 Thread Everett, Al
One of our customers seems to be having a problem with out checkout pages.
He is using Netscape 6 (don't know what dot-version; I suspect an early one)
and claims that he can't get through our multi-step checkout.

True to form, he cannot describe the actual error, where it appears, or
anything useful. We haven't been able to re-create it with Netscape 6.2, and
the vast majority of our customers (90+% use IE) have had no issues since we
implemented this months ago.

Everything in checkout is server-side, except for a CFLOCATION or two. I
suspect that the browser isn't following the redirect properly (Error 302,
isn't it?). Has anyone else encountered such a thing?

We are not inclined to make major changes for one customer with a problem he
cannot describe and that we cannot duplicate, but would getting him to at
least upgrade to 6.2 make this all go away?

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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread Wjreichard

No actually I think you are right. I think you put me on to something.

Does CF create cookies based on the URL string? So if one entered a site via:

http://100.110.12.9 or https://100.110.12.9
http://100.110.12.9:80 or https://100.110.12.9:80
http://www.somesite.com or https://www.somesite.com
http://www.somesite.com:80 or https://www.somesite.com:80

That four seperate cookies would be created?

Beacuse it works when I go from:

http://www.mysite.net to https://www.mysite.net [on implied standard ports 80 
and 443]

and not on

http://www.mysite.com to https://www.mysite.com:444

But, if it is a cookie issue why would it work with IE?

Hmmm ... what to do?
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread David E. Crawford

I am running 4.0.1 still.  I was doing some integration work with WebBoard
from OReilly by attempting to set cookies using CF.  Turns out that I was
not able to get it done the way that WebBoard wanted using CF, and had to
resort to a perl hack in the middle.

DC

- Original Message -
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 15:18
Subject: Re: SSL and Netscape


> Could be, I tested it on 4.08 and 4.73 and those both worked.
>
> It could also have something to do with the way CF set the cookies.
>
> What version of CF were you running? I have 4.5.1 on IIS5
>
> At 03:06 PM 8/28/2000 +, you wrote:
> >I suspect it may also depend on the version of the browser.  I
> attempted
> >domain cookies and wound up being unsuccessful.  In looking at the
> >cookies.txt file, the non-standard ports were appended to the end of
> the
> >domain name, literally.  I gave up, and move my application to another
> box
> >on port 80.
> >
> >DC
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 15:01
> >Subject: Re: SSL and Netscape
> >
> >
> > > It all works fine for me, I set up a test site for it.
> > >
> > > I have a site that answers to four different ports
> > >
> > > http: 80, 8282
> > > https: 443, 8383
> > >
> > > I can move between all four of these ports with no problem. I am
> using
> > > client variables and setting domain cookies.
> > >
> > > At 02:36 PM 8/28/2000 +, you wrote:
> > > >Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so
> when
> > > you
> > > >move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN
> > > which
> > > >enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and
> > > wound up
> > > >beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am
> aware
> > > of.
> > > >
> > > >DC
> > > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 14:29
> > > >Subject: SSL and Netscape
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hey,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot
> com
> > > > > variants.
> > > > > Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign
> SSL
> > > > > keys. One
> > > > > for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com
> > > assigned
> > > > > to a
> > > > > non-standard port.
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to
> SSL on
> > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that
> is
> > > they
> > > > > do
> > > > > not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works
> > > fine
> > > > > with
> > > > > the standard SSL port.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking
> up
> > > the
> > > > > wrong
> > > > > tree.
> > > > >
> > >
> 
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread Nick McClure

Could be, I tested it on 4.08 and 4.73 and those both worked.

It could also have something to do with the way CF set the cookies.

What version of CF were you running? I have 4.5.1 on IIS5

At 03:06 PM 8/28/2000 +, you wrote:
>I suspect it may also depend on the version of the browser.  I attempted
>domain cookies and wound up being unsuccessful.  In looking at the
>cookies.txt file, the non-standard ports were appended to the end of the
>domain name, literally.  I gave up, and move my application to another box
>on port 80.
>
>DC
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 15:01
>Subject: Re: SSL and Netscape
>
>
> > It all works fine for me, I set up a test site for it.
> >
> > I have a site that answers to four different ports
> >
> > http: 80, 8282
> > https: 443, 8383
> >
> > I can move between all four of these ports with no problem. I am using
> > client variables and setting domain cookies.
> >
> > At 02:36 PM 8/28/2000 +, you wrote:
> > >Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so when
> > you
> > >move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN
> > which
> > >enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and
> > wound up
> > >beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware
> > of.
> > >
> > >DC
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 14:29
> > >Subject: SSL and Netscape
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hey,
> > > >
> > > > I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot com
> > > > variants.
> > > > Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign SSL
> > > > keys. One
> > > > for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com
> > assigned
> > > > to a
> > > > non-standard port.
> > > >
> > > > The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to SSL on
> > the
> > > >
> > > > non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that is
> > they
> > > > do
> > > > not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works
> > fine
> > > > with
> > > > the standard SSL port.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking up
> > the
> > > > wrong
> > > > tree.
> > > >
> > 
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread David E. Crawford

I suspect it may also depend on the version of the browser.  I attempted
domain cookies and wound up being unsuccessful.  In looking at the
cookies.txt file, the non-standard ports were appended to the end of the
domain name, literally.  I gave up, and move my application to another box
on port 80.

DC

- Original Message -
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 15:01
Subject: Re: SSL and Netscape


> It all works fine for me, I set up a test site for it.
>
> I have a site that answers to four different ports
>
> http: 80, 8282
> https: 443, 8383
>
> I can move between all four of these ports with no problem. I am using
> client variables and setting domain cookies.
>
> At 02:36 PM 8/28/2000 +, you wrote:
> >Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so when
> you
> >move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN
> which
> >enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and
> wound up
> >beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware
> of.
> >
> >DC
> >
> >- Original Message -----
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 14:29
> >Subject: SSL and Netscape
> >
> >
> > > Hey,
> > >
> > > I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot com
> > > variants.
> > > Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign SSL
> > > keys. One
> > > for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com
> assigned
> > > to a
> > > non-standard port.
> > >
> > > The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to SSL on
> the
> > >
> > > non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that is
> they
> > > do
> > > not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works
> fine
> > > with
> > > the standard SSL port.
> > >
> > > Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking up
> the
> > > wrong
> > > tree.
> > >
> 
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread Nick McClure

It all works fine for me, I set up a test site for it.

I have a site that answers to four different ports

http: 80, 8282
https: 443, 8383

I can move between all four of these ports with no problem. I am using 
client variables and setting domain cookies.

At 02:36 PM 8/28/2000 +, you wrote:
>Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so when you
>move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN which
>enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and wound up
>beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware of.
>
>DC
>
>- Original Message -
>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 14:29
>Subject: SSL and Netscape
>
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot com
> > variants.
> > Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign SSL
> > keys. One
> > for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com assigned
> > to a
> > non-standard port.
> >
> > The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to SSL on the
> >
> > non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that is they
> > do
> > not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works fine
> > with
> > the standard SSL port.
> >
> > Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking up the
> > wrong
> > tree.
> > 
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread David E. Crawford

Well, you are right and so am I.  The standard ports are handled, but non
standard ports have the port written to the cookie. I was using port 81 for
something and it screwed me completely.  I found no solution to this
problem.

DC

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 14:47
Subject: Re: SSL and Netscape


> In a message dated 8/28/00 10:36:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so
> when you
>  move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN
> which
>  enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and
> wound up
>  beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware
> of.
>   >>
>
> No ... because with Netscape I change from port 80 to port 443 (standard
> SSL)
> and everything works fine. However, when I change from port 80 to port
> 444
> ... well things go to hell in a handbasket?
> 
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread Wjreichard

In a message dated 8/28/00 10:36:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so when you
 move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN which
 enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and wound up
 beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware of.
  >>

No ... because with Netscape I change from port 80 to port 443 (standard SSL) 
and everything works fine. However, when I change from port 80 to port 444 
... well things go to hell in a handbasket?
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread Yanik Lupien

If you specify the CFID and CFTOKEN in all URL it's not work ???

Yanik Lupien

- Original Message -
From: "David E. Crawford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: SSL and Netscape


> Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so when you
> move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN which
> enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and wound
up
> beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware
of.
>
> DC
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 14:29
> Subject: SSL and Netscape
>
>
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot com
> > variants.
> > Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign SSL
> > keys. One
> > for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com assigned
> > to a
> > non-standard port.
> >
> > The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to SSL on the
> >
> > non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that is they
> > do
> > not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works fine
> > with
> > the standard SSL port.
> >
> > Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking up the
> > wrong
> > tree.
> > 
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Re: SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread David E. Crawford

Netscape establishes the cookies for a site based on the port, so when you
move between one port and another the cookies set for CFID/CFTOKEN which
enable session tracking change.  I have recently ran into this and wound up
beating my head against the wall.  There is no solution that I am aware of.

DC

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Subject: SSL and Netscape


> Hey,
>
> I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot com
> variants.
> Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign SSL
> keys. One
> for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com assigned
> to a
> non-standard port.
>
> The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to SSL on the
>
> non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that is they
> do
> not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works fine
> with
> the standard SSL port.
>
> Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking up the
> wrong
> tree.
> 
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SSL and Netscape

2000-08-28 Thread Wjreichard

Hey,

I'm running a multi-domained site having both dot net and dot com variants. 
Due to supporting both domains I've had to install two Verisign SSL keys. One 
for dot net domain on standard SSL port and the other dot com assigned to a 
non-standard port.

The problem I'm having, is when Netscape (4.5) transistion to SSL on the 
non-standard SSL port the CF session variables are lost ... that is they do 
not exist. I have no problem with SSL thru IE and Netscape works fine with 
the standard SSL port.

Anyone, have this kind of problem? Then again maybe I'm barking up the wrong 
tree.
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