Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Bryan Stevenson

nope...nothin to do...as long as you make it a .cfm file and use cfcontent
to use the right MIME typ for WAP ()

HTH

BTW I can now process forms etc.  this is SO cool ;-)

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
Allaire Alliance Partner
www.allaire.com

- Original Message -
From: "ehoma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: WAP and CFM


> Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web server
> do the job?  Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0 box.  I
see
> that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I need to
> re-configure CF.
>
> Eric Homa
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:18 AM
> Subject: Re: WAP and CFM
>
>
> > Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say
that
> > ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could
> fire
> > up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
> > anything is possible) ;-)
> >
> > I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
> > resultsworking on form processing now
> >
> > Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and
more!
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > p. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > -
> > Allaire Alliance Partner
> > www.allaire.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
> > Subject: WAP and CFM
> >
> >
> > > hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
> > >
> > > I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> > > internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check
> email!
> > >
> > > The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> > > service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
> > internet
> > > service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
> > >
> > > I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> > > company offers, but for free!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Kevin Miller

It's quite easy, actually.  Create a new file extension for your WAP 
files, and then create a MIME type on the web server that associates that 
file type with the appropriate class.  I'm not sure what that is for WAP, 
but I would guess something like "text/wap".

If you are using CF to send both HTML and WAP content, just use a CFHEADER 
command to do the same thing with WAP content.

HTH,

Kevin 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/01 11:15AM >>>
Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web server
do the job?  Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0 box.  I 
see
that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I need to
re-configure CF.

Eric Homa

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: WAP and CFM


> Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say 
that
> ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could
fire
> up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
> anything is possible) ;-)
>
> I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
> resultsworking on form processing now
>
> Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and 
more!
>
> Bryan Stevenson
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> p. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> -
> Allaire Alliance Partner
> www.allaire.com 
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
> Subject: WAP and CFM
>
>
> > hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
> >
> > I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> > internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check
email!
> >
> > The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> > service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
> internet
> > service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
> >
> > I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> > company offers, but for free!
> >
> >
> >
> 

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RE: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Ben Forta

There are a few things I wrote (and a audio/slide presentation) on this at
www.forta.com/cf/resources.

--- Ben


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 3:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: WAP and CFM


> Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web
> server do the job? Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0
> box. I see that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I
> need to re-configure CF.

No, you can serve WML content from any web server. If you're serving static
files, you'll have to associate the appropriate MIME types with those file
extensions; this is done differently on different web servers. For CF files,
you simply have to set the appropriate MIME type with CFCONTENT at the top
of each file.

I wrote a WAP/WML presentation a while back, which describes this stuff in
greater detail, and is available here:
http://www.figleaf.com/figleafhome/cfug/2000/CFUGSep2000/cfugsep2000.zip

In addition, there are plenty of resources available on the web and in
bookstores (the Wrox WAP development book specifically covers CF/WAP
development, not that there's much to cover there). There's also a CF
Wireless mailing list available at http://www.bromby.com/.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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RE: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Dave Watts

> Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web
> server do the job? Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0
> box. I see that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I
> need to re-configure CF.

No, you can serve WML content from any web server. If you're serving static
files, you'll have to associate the appropriate MIME types with those file
extensions; this is done differently on different web servers. For CF files,
you simply have to set the appropriate MIME type with CFCONTENT at the top
of each file.

I wrote a WAP/WML presentation a while back, which describes this stuff in
greater detail, and is available here:
http://www.figleaf.com/figleafhome/cfug/2000/CFUGSep2000/cfugsep2000.zip

In addition, there are plenty of resources available on the web and in
bookstores (the Wrox WAP development book specifically covers CF/WAP
development, not that there's much to cover there). There's also a CF
Wireless mailing list available at http://www.bromby.com/.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
phone: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
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Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Mookie Bear

No, all u have to do is rewrite some code to have it properly fisplayed for 
WAP enabled devices








>From: ehoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: WAP and CFM
>Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 11:15:07 -0800
>
>Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web server
>do the job?  Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0 box.  I see
>that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I need to
>re-configure CF.
>
>Eric Homa
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:18 AM
>Subject: Re: WAP and CFM
>
>
> > Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say 
>that
> > ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could
>fire
> > up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
> > anything is possible) ;-)
> >
> > I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
> > resultsworking on form processing now
> >
> > Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and 
>more!
> >
> > Bryan Stevenson
> > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> > p. 250.920.8830
> > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > -
> > Allaire Alliance Partner
> > www.allaire.com
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
> > Subject: WAP and CFM
> >
> >
> > > hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
> > >
> > > I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> > > internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check
>email!
> > >
> > > The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> > > service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
> > internet
> > > service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
> > >
> > > I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> > > company offers, but for free!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Jamie Jackson

If you haven't done any WAP yet, here is a good CF primer:
http://www.wapuseek.com/wap_cf.cfm

Jamie

On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:06:06 -0600, "Mookie Bear"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
>
>I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have 
>internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check email!
>
>The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email 
>service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their internet 
>service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
>
>I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone 
>company offers, but for free!
>
>
>
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RE: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Carlisle, Eric

Dunno about the server software.
FYI, there are a couple of good CF WAP articles linked from Forta.com

http://www.forta.com/cf/resources/


-Original Message-
From: ehoma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: WAP and CFM


Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web server
do the job?  Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0 box.  I see
that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I need to
re-configure CF.

Eric Homa

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: WAP and CFM


> Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say that
> ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could
fire
> up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
> anything is possible) ;-)
>
> I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
> resultsworking on form processing now
>
> Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and more!
>
> Bryan Stevenson
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> p. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
> Allaire Alliance Partner
> www.allaire.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
> Subject: WAP and CFM
>
>
> > hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
> >
> > I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> > internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check
email!
> >
> > The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> > service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
> internet
> > service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
> >
> > I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> > company offers, but for free!
> >
> >
> >
> 

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Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread ehoma

Do I need a special server to "serve-up" WAP or will my current web server
do the job?  Currently using O'reilly Web Site Pro on an NT 4.0 box.  I see
that Cold Fusion already supports WAP, so I don't think I need to
re-configure CF.

Eric Homa

- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: WAP and CFM


> Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say that
> ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could
fire
> up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
> anything is possible) ;-)
>
> I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
> resultsworking on form processing now
>
> Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and more!
>
> Bryan Stevenson
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> p. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
> Allaire Alliance Partner
> www.allaire.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
> Subject: WAP and CFM
>
>
> > hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
> >
> > I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> > internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check
email!
> >
> > The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> > service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
> internet
> > service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
> >
> > I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> > company offers, but for free!
> >
> >
> >
> 
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RE: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Joel Parramore

It shouldn't be a problem.  The logic on the server side with ColdFusion
would be the same as for a web (browser) interface to an e-mail account;
only the display piece is different.  Some suggested reading and sites:

Wrox titles: Beginning WAP, Professional
Sams title: Wap Development With Wml and Wmlscript

Site: http://www.anywhereyougo.com/

Regards,,
Joel Parramore


> -Original Message-
> From: Mookie Bear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 1:06 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: WAP and CFM
>
>
> hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
>
> I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check email!
>
> The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> service.  Or is the email service already included as part of
> their internet
> service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
>
> I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> company offers, but for free!
>
>
> 
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Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Mookie Bear

Well, it's only worth doing if there's a benefit to the end user, like not 
having to pay for it.  If email is a feature that they pay for and is 
separate from internet access on their phones, then I will do it!








>From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: WAP and CFM
>Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:18:38 -0800
>
>Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say that
>ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could 
>fire
>up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
>anything is possible) ;-)
>
>I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
>resultsworking on form processing now
>
>Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and more!
>
>Bryan Stevenson
>VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
>Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
>p. 250.920.8830
>e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>-
>Allaire Alliance Partner
>www.allaire.com
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
>Subject: WAP and CFM
>
>
> > hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
> >
> > I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> > internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check 
>email!
> >
> > The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> > service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
>internet
> > service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
> >
> > I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> > company offers, but for free!
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Well I just started delving into WAP about 30 minutes ago and I'd say that
ya you probably can.  CF seems to integrate quite nicely...so you could fire
up cfpop and cfmail and away you  go (yes overly simplified...but hey
anything is possible) ;-)

I've already done basic stuff like running queries and displaying
resultsworking on form processing now

Good luck and keep me informed cause I want to do the same thing and more!

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-
Allaire Alliance Partner
www.allaire.com

- Original Message -
From: "Mookie Bear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:06 AM
Subject: WAP and CFM


> hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.
>
> I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have
> internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check email!
>
> The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email
> service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their
internet
> service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.
>
> I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone
> company offers, but for free!
>
>
> 
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WAP and CFM

2001-11-30 Thread Mookie Bear

hey guys, please tell me if this is possible.

I want to create a WAP application where my friends, who have 
internet-capable cell phones, are able to do such things, as, check email!

The reason I wanna do this is so that they dont have to pay for email 
service.  Or is the email service already included as part of their internet 
service?  Then I would have no problem ditching this project hehe.

I was just thinking of some WAP service i can make that the cell phone 
company offers, but for free!


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