Re: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
Christian Cantrell wrote: 1. I added web services to MXNA (http://www.markme.com/mxna) so that people could write their own presentation layers.(We haven't made the API public yet). Of course you could always use the webservice API that has been public at Fullasagoog (the solution MXNA is based on) since Feb 2003: http://www.fullasagoog.com/webservice.cfm Great for playing around or building real apps.Let me know if you need something -- new method, additional properties, whatever... I'm normally pretty flexible. -- geoff http://www.fullasagoog.com/ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
On Sunday 11 Jan 2004 22:34 pm, Ralph Ogden wrote: Hi all, Web Service protocols, I'd especially like to know if anyone in the ColdFusion development community is even doing much with Web Services. The next version of our asset tracking site will use a web service to ask an asset to report it's location. This is to enable (say) a native Win32 app to use exactly the same method as the web site does. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
Ralph Ogden wrote: In addition to seeking recommendations for training in Web Service protocols, I'd especially like to know if anyone in the ColdFusion development community is even doing much with Web Services. Ralph, We only recently started using web services here in my department at Duke - and primarily only because we're doing Flash development now (post-MAX).The average web site doesn't really have a whole lot of need for web services, if you ask me... at least not for serving them... If I was still maintaining awarestore.com I might build a web service to allow them to syndicate content and production information to their affiliates I've got some neighborhood web sites where I might consume a weather-oriented web service but haven't gotten around to it yet. - Rick [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
On Sunday, January 11, 2004, at 05:34PM, Ralph Ogden wrote: I'd especially like to know if anyone in the ColdFusion development community is even doing much with Web Services. Just about everything I write these days exposes web services for one reason or another.I've been doing a lot of RIA development, which web services are obviously perfect for.But even with 100% CF apps, there is usually some kind of functionality I want to expose through a web service.I think of it as just another application interface. Big players like Amazon, eBay and Google have all seen the benefits (both technically and from a financial perspective) of exposing web services (or at least XML APIs).I think they are here to stay, and I personally can't imagine developing applications without them, at this point. Christian [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
What would be an example of the type of functionality you would use a web service for in this case? Dan [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
Darn, Mikes line stripping truncated what I was responding to. I was responding to Christian's email and here it is: Dan But even with 100% CF apps, there is usually some kind of functionality I want to expose through a web service.I think of it as just another application interface. -Original Message- From: Daniel O'Keefe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 12:15 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services? What would be an example of the type of functionality you would use a web service for in this case? Dan _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
On Monday, January 12, 2004, at 12:15PM, Daniel O'Keefe wrote: What would be an example of the type of functionality you would use a web service for in this case? I sometimes like to provide a Flash front-end alternative to CF/HTML apps.I think some functionality is better expressed in Flash and some better in CF/HTML.I like to try to get the best of both worlds.Web services are a great way for Flash to hook into the CF back-end. In terms of pure CF applications: 1. I added web services to MXNA (http://www.markme.com/mxna) so that people could write their own presentation layers.(We haven't made the API public yet). 2. Community Vision (http://www.markme.com/vision) is exposed through web services which Mike Chambers leveraged for a Central application. 3. I wrote an application for internal use called Community Resource Directory which has 100% of its functionality exposed through web services.This allows the CF front end to be hosted on different servers throughout the company while I maintain the bulk of the application on an internal community server. In general, allowing communities to write their own code on top of a set of core services has a lot of interesting potential.In the case of eBay, it has translated directly into serious revenue.I don't know about Amazon and Google, but I'm guessing it will eventually bring in money if it hasn't already. Christian [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
Hi all, In addition to seeking recommendations for training in Web Service protocols, I'd especially like to know if anyone in the ColdFusion development community is even doing much with Web Services. Macromedia's forums certainly dont see much talk about Web Services.Macromedia MAX this year offered a couple of seminars - but it was clear they hadn't really yet captured the attention of most developers... And yet all indications point to Web Services thoroughly revolutionizing the way we build applications. Are they just too new?Are the standards just not sufficiently nailed down?Are developers afraid this is another WDDX? Just curious - eager to hear some thoughts on this. Yours, Ralph Ogden --- Ralph Ogden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know of any good classroom training out there on Web Services and XML?Dont know where else to begin a search for this, and Google never points me to anything but LearningTree (about which past experiences leave me unenthusiastic...) Am in the Northern Virginia/D.C. area... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the Signing Bonus Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services?
I love the idea of webservices. However I haven't done much in the way of using webservices that I don't control. What I mean is, I use them all the time between applications in my network and to and from client sites. But I don't like using outside services because I can't control their uptime. Until organizations provide me with a webservices control panel, noting uptime history, usage statistics, etc. I'm unwilling to have any of my applications rely on an outside webservice. Furthermore, the cost of some of the reliable, more secure and guaranteed uptime webservices, far out way the cost in developing my own. Most of the time, I can more affordably build something that suites my needs rather than spending a higher price for something that is already built, with uptime out of my control. I hope that helps Bryan -Original Message- From: Ralph Ogden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 5:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: What are ColdFusion developers doing with Web Services? Hi all, In addition to seeking recommendations for training in Web Service protocols, I'd especially like to know if anyone in the ColdFusion development community is even doing much with Web Services. Macromedia's forums certainly dont see much talk about Web Services.Macromedia MAX this year offered a couple of seminars - but it was clear they hadn't really yet captured the attention of most developers... And yet all indications point to Web Services thoroughly revolutionizing the way we build applications. Are they just too new?Are the standards just not sufficiently nailed down?Are developers afraid this is another WDDX? Just curious - eager to hear some thoughts on this. Yours, Ralph Ogden [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
