Re: Workstation recommendations
I prefer building my own as well. I've found that the low- and mid-range systems tend to be cheaper if you buy a brand (you'll be locked in, but those systems probably don't have a lot of shelf life anyways), but for the high end, you can get some serious bang for your buck building your own - I recently built a screamer (7.6 WEI) for $1500 (SSD, 4 1TB drives in RAID 10, 8GB Corsair memory, i7 2600K) - I bought it at MicroCenter, and probably could have shaved off a couple hundred bucks if I gone with NewEgg. Billy Cravens bdcrav...@gmail.com On Sep 7, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: I am more of a fan of building it myself. Most boards are plug and play. So no jumper or bios settings changes are generally needed. You can put together a pretty powerful system for less by going that route. Places like TigerDirect and NewEgg offer barebones kits that are a good starting point. Eric -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: SOT: Workstation recommendations My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347302 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I had no issues running CF9 and Lion. In fact, from what I recall, I did the OS upgrade and it still ran just fine when the upgrade was done. Actually, I do get a message in the Launcher that it has to stop CF un-gracefully (some permission issue I haven't bothered fixing), but it starts up and runs just fine. I suspect if I were to re-install CF, that would be take care of, as well. Scott On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: But, be warned, ColdFusion and OS X Lion are not playmates yet. I still run Snow Leopard. -- - Scott Brady http://www.scottbrady.net/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347303 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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But those guys at various computer repair places would say anything to make a sale, especially the large one which has a squad full of geeks. They pray on the uneducated and was hoping Peter was one of them... -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:42 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Workstation recommendations You know the hardware has absolutely nothing to do with getting a virus, right? -- Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog http://www.bifrost.com.au/ On 8 September 2011 09:28, Peter Donahue pdonah...@satx.rr.com wrote: Good evening everyone, This past week must have been computer-workstation die-off or something. My wife's computer became infected with the PC Performance Virus. This thing is a nasty as it locked her out of many of her programs, caused a black screen to appear when the monitor was turned on and the computer booted in to Windows, messages from Twitter and God only knows where else to be displayed and wouldn't allow her to see any of her data files. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347311 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Hello Jacob and everyone, We were also getting reports of there being bad sectors on one or more hard drives. Since she does work from home a new machine would definitely be in order. Now if I could interest her in learning CF so she can help me with my Web and other projects. All the best. Peter Donahue - Original Message - From: Jacob ja...@excaliburfilms.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Workstation recommendations But those guys at various computer repair places would say anything to make a sale, especially the large one which has a squad full of geeks. They pray on the uneducated and was hoping Peter was one of them... -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:james.hol...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:42 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Workstation recommendations You know the hardware has absolutely nothing to do with getting a virus, right? -- Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog http://www.bifrost.com.au/ On 8 September 2011 09:28, Peter Donahue pdonah...@satx.rr.com wrote: Good evening everyone, This past week must have been computer-workstation die-off or something. My wife's computer became infected with the PC Performance Virus. This thing is a nasty as it locked her out of many of her programs, caused a black screen to appear when the monitor was turned on and the computer booted in to Windows, messages from Twitter and God only knows where else to be displayed and wouldn't allow her to see any of her data files. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347313 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I really can't get used to 1 mouse button, does my head in :-) Any 2 or 3 button mouse will work with a mac and right clicks actually work ;) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347351 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I've had three HP computers die in the last month. I'm currently using a 13 year old Sony Vaio that still works perfectly. Sony gets my money for the next purchase. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347354 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
SOT: Workstation recommendations
My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347273 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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+1 for Lenovo +0.5 for Dell, I've had pretty good luck with Dell =] -- Alan Rother Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, www.AZCFUG.org Twitter: @AlanRother ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347274 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I have an Asus laptop, that although posted as a gaming system, has tons of power and runs anything I want. I have everything you described running with no issues. So +1 for Asus from me Rob On Sep 7, 2011 11:47 AM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for Lenovo +0.5 for Dell, I've had pretty good luck with Dell =] -- Alan Rother Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, www.AZCFUG.org Twitter: @AlanRother ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347275 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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What is your deciding factor? sheer power branded or unbranded price good support and customer care from the manufacturer most of my life I have built my own and replace my own components as and when required, then you have no-one else to blame when things go wrong. This also used to be a lot cheaper. Nowadays there is not any money to be saved by building your own if you are going for a top of the range system, however you do have the luxury of building it exactly how you want and put all your money into the important components. For a development machine your priority should be on: lots of fast memory (8GB is ideal), fast hard disks (SSD or hybrid), top of the range mobo with fastest ports and buses and built in hyper-v suppoer, 802.11n dualband wifi, fast cpu (quad core). Obviously graphics and sound and a super expensive case wont be that important to you, so you can go budget on these things or just use the ones that come with the mobo. I highly recommend Antec cases and PSU's. but the problem you face buying a branded machine is that you cannot go opening it up and replacing components if you want to keep your warranty. So if something fails then you need to send it back to the manufacturer. Sending your computer back sucks and u will often have to pay for that, so better to go with someone who does onsite support and repairs. Here are the vendors I have experience with. novatech Really good company, good service and support, will generally replace things without quibble, they seem to have have a good rep for this if you read reviews I have bought several cheap workstations from them that lasted for years, but I have personally never had to return anything. They do their own branded stuff now too. Dell Very good quality machines, with lots of neat little extras. All components are proprietary and you need to go through DELL to replace everything, they are all however high quality components. Their support and customer service seems to be hit and miss, when it is bad is is really bad, but when it is good it is awesome. I bought a new Dell XPS laptop, which is a fricking awesome laptop, it is more powerful than my desktop with a pretty decent 5.9 windows 7 performance rating. The pre-sales support was abysmal, I couldn't order on the site as something was broken, and spent weeks sending them emails and getting no response, people promised to call and didn't, their call centre is also based in India. So communication is a bit of a problem. However the after sales support has been good, I had a problem with my mobo beeping, an enginner came out to my office and replaced the mobo, free of charge. It did not fix the problem, so Dell repalced the whole laptop, again free of charge, and even sent me the new one first so I could copy across all my data and then picked up the faulty one at my convenience. Acer I have had an acer laptop, and the screen went orange and Acer wouldn't do anything about it. I know someone who works at acer who tells me they are awful, they have known problems with their system and happily ship them out with these issues and will do anything to avoid fixing or replacing and will generally try and charge the customer. HTH On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347276 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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So +1 for Asus from me I have not used one but if they make comuters like they do motherboards I would definitely get one. I have been running HP's for the last five years or so. I can't complain. a couple of resources that might save you a few bucks http://www.pricewatch.com/ http://www.techbargains.com/catsearch.cfm/0_12_0?r1=1 And of course newegg is a great place to get reviews. All their stuff is vetted by geeks. http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=10 And my favorite digital crack house of all time. http://cedarpc.com/ If you play your cards right you can score a new or a referbed machine at a deep discount. G! On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Rob Parkhill robert.parkh...@gmail.comwrote: I have an Asus laptop, that although posted as a gaming system, has tons of power and runs anything I want. I have everything you described running with no issues. So +1 for Asus from me Rob On Sep 7, 2011 11:47 AM, Alan Rother alan.rot...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for Lenovo +0.5 for Dell, I've had pretty good luck with Dell =] -- Alan Rother Manager, Phoenix Cold Fusion User Group, www.AZCFUG.org Twitter: @AlanRother ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I normally build my own workstations, but if I were to buy a workstation today I would likely get one from Puget Systems, such as the Puget Serenity SPCR Edition. I've never ordered from that store, but they get universally good reviews. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347279 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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+1 for HP. Support has been great -1 for Dell support +1 for Toshiba laptops On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: I normally build my own workstations, but if I were to buy a workstation today I would likely get one from Puget Systems, such as the Puget Serenity SPCR Edition. I've never ordered from that store, but they get universally good reviews. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347280 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Personally, I use an 27 iMac. It works for all my dev with exception to MS Sql Mgmt Studio, but then I already owned VMware Fusion so I put Win7Pro on a VM and then the MS sql tools. Win7 Pro runs real fast on a VM. I have the i3 3.2Ghz iMac with 16Gb of ram. The newer iMac is even better. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Greg Luce wrote: +1 for HP. Support has been great -1 for Dell support +1 for Toshiba laptops On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: I normally build my own workstations, but if I were to buy a workstation today I would likely get one from Puget Systems, such as the Puget Serenity SPCR Edition. I've never ordered from that store, but they get universally good reviews. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347281 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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Dell and HP here, have had not a single issue with more than 5 systems of each over the last decade except a single broken key on a Dell laptop which they overnighted a replacement for for free with no extra service plan or warrantee service. Dell's refurbished outlet gives you some great deals with identical warranties to their new products. The main reason I prefer Dell and HP systems ( particular models only disclaimer ) is that they're much more attractive than all of the other Windows brands. As far as performance, you can buy any cheap windows desktop with anything i5 or better and 8GB of RAM and throw a PCIE revo drive into it for a few hundred dollars and get better performance than any high end workstation for ColdFusion development. Just make sure you do your research, they've released 4-5 generations of the Revo drive ( a simple SSD Raid 0 on a PCI express card ) in the last few years, you'll want the newest generation that fits your price point. On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: I normally build my own workstations, but if I were to buy a workstation today I would likely get one from Puget Systems, such as the Puget Serenity SPCR Edition. I've never ordered from that store, but they get universally good reviews. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347282 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I really can't get used to 1 mouse button, does my head in :-) On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Personally, I use an 27 iMac. It works for all my dev with exception to MS Sql Mgmt Studio, but then I already owned VMware Fusion so I put Win7Pro on a VM and then the MS sql tools. Win7 Pro runs real fast on a VM. I have the i3 3.2Ghz iMac with 16Gb of ram. The newer iMac is even better. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Greg Luce wrote: +1 for HP. Support has been great -1 for Dell support +1 for Toshiba laptops On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: I normally build my own workstations, but if I were to buy a workstation today I would likely get one from Puget Systems, such as the Puget Serenity SPCR Edition. I've never ordered from that store, but they get universally good reviews. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347283 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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For workstations, I have always been happy with Dell. If you go the laptop route, either Dell or Toshiba (high end model.. not the satellite). -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: SOT: Workstation recommendations My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347284 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I agree, Apple keyboard and mouse, trackpad or Magic Mickey Mouse are all crap in my humble opinion. That's why I use the Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman and a Microsoft 4000 keyboard. But, be warned, ColdFusion and OS X Lion are not playmates yet. I still run Snow Leopard. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Russ Michaels wrote: I really can't get used to 1 mouse button, does my head in :-) On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: Personally, I use an 27 iMac. It works for all my dev with exception to MS Sql Mgmt Studio, but then I already owned VMware Fusion so I put Win7Pro on a VM and then the MS sql tools. Win7 Pro runs real fast on a VM. I have the i3 3.2Ghz iMac with 16Gb of ram. The newer iMac is even better. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/ Systems Administrator CF Webtools www.cfwebtools.com wilg...@trunkful.com www.trunkful.com On Sep 7, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Greg Luce wrote: +1 for HP. Support has been great -1 for Dell support +1 for Toshiba laptops On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Mike Chabot mcha...@gmail.com wrote: I normally build my own workstations, but if I were to buy a workstation today I would likely get one from Puget Systems, such as the Puget Serenity SPCR Edition. I've never ordered from that store, but they get universally good reviews. -Mike Chabot On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Wil Genovese jugg...@trunkful.com wrote: But, be warned, ColdFusion and OS X Lion are not playmates yet. I still run Snow Leopard. I was all ready to lonk you to the article I used to get cF9 running on Lion. Then I realised it was your article http://www.trunkful.com/index.cfm/2011/7/20/ColdFusion-9-on-OS-X-Lion Thanks to your post I've had CF9 running on Lion without problem for a few weeks now. -Cameron -- Cameron Childress -- p: 678.637.5072 im: cameroncf facebook http://www.facebook.com/cameroncf | twitterhttp://twitter.com/cameronc | google+ https://profiles.google.com/u/0/117829379451708140985 ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347288 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
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I buy my systems from CyberpowerPC. Limited tech support, but I don't care about that (we all probably know what we're doing), other than replacement of something bad. Good prices and, most important to me, the ability to customize literally every single thing in the system. So I get exactly what I want, for work.and for gaming heh. What a happy coincidence that an overclocked 2600k with 16 Gb of RAM, SSD, and dual graphics cards will start Eclipse in 3 seconds AND run Battlefield 3 at 1920x1080. ;-) On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Matt Williams mgw...@gmail.com wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347289 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Workstation recommendations
+1 for Toshiba laptops +1 for your +1. I've had a Toshi Satellite for about three years now and it's hands-down the most reliable windows computer I've ever owned. (I've probably just jinxed myself now.) ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347290 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Workstation recommendations
If you're not adverse to using a small company, iBuyPower makes some very nice desktop and laptop gaming systems, http://www.ibuypower.com/. I picked up one of their laptops 2 years ago and I've been very satisfied with it. My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347291 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
RE: Workstation recommendations
I am more of a fan of building it myself. Most boards are plug and play. So no jumper or bios settings changes are generally needed. You can put together a pretty powerful system for less by going that route. Places like TigerDirect and NewEgg offer barebones kits that are a good starting point. Eric -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:mgw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:45 AM To: cf-talk Subject: SOT: Workstation recommendations My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347294 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Workstation recommendations
I got an Asus laptop last year. It was RMAed back to them 4 times before they finally sent me an exchange. The exchange arrived with a broken screen. So it had to be RMAed back. It was the worst customer service I have ever dealt with. You will probably get a lot of different opinions on brands, but I will never buy another Asus product. Dan For workstations, I have always been happy with Dell. If you go the laptop route, either Dell or Toshiba (high end model.. not the satellite). My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347295 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Workstation recommendations
sent from my ASUS Transformer ;-) On Wed, 2011-09-07 at 19:41 -0400, Dan Crouch wrote: I got an Asus laptop last year. It was RMAed back to them 4 times before they finally sent me an exchange. The exchange arrived with a broken screen. So it had to be RMAed back. It was the worst customer service I have ever dealt with. You will probably get a lot of different opinions on brands, but I will never buy another Asus product. Dan For workstations, I have always been happy with Dell. If you go the laptop route, either Dell or Toshiba (high end model.. not the satellite). My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347296 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Workstation recommendations
Good evening everyone, This past week must have been computer-workstation die-off or something. My wife's computer became infected with the PC Performance Virus. This thing is a nasty as it locked her out of many of her programs, caused a black screen to appear when the monitor was turned on and the computer booted in to Windows, messages from Twitter and God only knows where else to be displayed and wouldn't allow her to see any of her data files. The tech we took it to said that this is a very malicious virus and is difficult to clean. You might as well say that the computer was Dead on arrival at the shop with no chance of being revived. We have one HP and two Dell machines here. The machine that was infected was a Dell desktop. This HP I use is rock solid. Mary has had a Gateway and a Dell both of which died an early death. The Gateway was fried several years ago due to an over-loaded surge protector. The virus killed the Dell. Here's hoping the next machine we get will withstand anything thrown at it and will last her for many years. Surge protectors and viruses aside both of these brands are great and we'll get a new desktop that's one of them. Here's hoping everyone is able to resolve their computer and workstation woes in the coming weeks. Peter Donahue - Original Message - From: Dan Crouch stario...@yahoo.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Workstation recommendations I got an Asus laptop last year. It was RMAed back to them 4 times before they finally sent me an exchange. The exchange arrived with a broken screen. So it had to be RMAed back. It was the worst customer service I have ever dealt with. You will probably get a lot of different opinions on brands, but I will never buy another Asus product. Dan For workstations, I have always been happy with Dell. If you go the laptop route, either Dell or Toshiba (high end model.. not the satellite). My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347297 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: SOT: Workstation recommendations
Perhaps there is something on the drive that is causing a problem? I wouldn't put it into the next computer. Perhaps a rootkit? Last time my computer died I replaced it with a Dell Precision workstation. I treated myself nicely. I got a relatively small SSD drive and a huge Buffalo external NAS device. The only thing on my hard drive are the programs I use and the source code for my websites. Everything else - documents, music, video, downloads, photos etc goes on the NAS. I have a program that synchronizes my SSD drive to the nas, and another that keeps backs up the websites to the NAS and keeps many versions so I can go back to a snapshot at any day in the past 7 days. (I also back up to MOZY and to my live web server) This way - the next time my computer dies, I can just replace it or reinstall windows, copy the files from the NAS and be back up quickly. The speed difference is amazing with the SSD drive. Especially Dreamweaver. I can actually use the find in entire local site function. At 11:44 AM 9/7/2011, you wrote: My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347299 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Workstation recommendations
You know the hardware has absolutely nothing to do with getting a virus, right? -- Shu Ha Ri: Agile and .NET blog http://www.bifrost.com.au/ On 8 September 2011 09:28, Peter Donahue pdonah...@satx.rr.com wrote: Good evening everyone, This past week must have been computer-workstation die-off or something. My wife's computer became infected with the PC Performance Virus. This thing is a nasty as it locked her out of many of her programs, caused a black screen to appear when the monitor was turned on and the computer booted in to Windows, messages from Twitter and God only knows where else to be displayed and wouldn't allow her to see any of her data files. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347300 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm
Re: Workstation recommendations
Well, malware like the program you describe can usually only harm you if a) you aren't running an antivirus program, and b) you actually install the malicious program. So first, you need to install some sort of antivirus software (I use AVG). But even beyond that, unless you tell whoever is using the computer not to just run random executable files, nothing is going to stop this from happening again. People bust on Windows because of it's sad record of past security (though it is far better now) and the range of virus threats due to its dominant market share. But the reality is that simply not installing unknown software will prevent virtually all these problems, even without antivirus. I've had Windows systems for 20 years and I have never had a virus. I've never even had my antivirus program intercept a virus. Ever. It's really not difficult. So I don't say this to make you feel bad, but just to point out that with a small amount of precaution the next time, you can make this an extremely unlikely scenario. Brian On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Peter Donahue pdonah...@satx.rr.com wrote: Good evening everyone, This past week must have been computer-workstation die-off or something. My wife's computer became infected with the PC Performance Virus. This thing is a nasty as it locked her out of many of her programs, caused a black screen to appear when the monitor was turned on and the computer booted in to Windows, messages from Twitter and God only knows where else to be displayed and wouldn't allow her to see any of her data files. The tech we took it to said that this is a very malicious virus and is difficult to clean. You might as well say that the computer was Dead on arrival at the shop with no chance of being revived. We have one HP and two Dell machines here. The machine that was infected was a Dell desktop. This HP I use is rock solid. Mary has had a Gateway and a Dell both of which died an early death. The Gateway was fried several years ago due to an over-loaded surge protector. The virus killed the Dell. Here's hoping the next machine we get will withstand anything thrown at it and will last her for many years. Surge protectors and viruses aside both of these brands are great and we'll get a new desktop that's one of them. Here's hoping everyone is able to resolve their computer and workstation woes in the coming weeks. Peter Donahue - Original Message - From: Dan Crouch stario...@yahoo.com To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 6:41 PM Subject: Re: Workstation recommendations I got an Asus laptop last year. It was RMAed back to them 4 times before they finally sent me an exchange. The exchange arrived with a broken screen. So it had to be RMAed back. It was the worst customer service I have ever dealt with. You will probably get a lot of different opinions on brands, but I will never buy another Asus product. Dan For workstations, I have always been happy with Dell. If you go the laptop route, either Dell or Toshiba (high end model.. not the satellite). My HP desktop at work died last night. This morning we took the hard drive out and put it into another box whose drive had died a couple months ago. It worked at first, but after about 20 minutes it croaked too. Anyway, I'll be shopping for a new desktop and just wondered what brands people recommend these days. I'll probably stay away from HP and plan to stay with a Windows machine. I run CF Developer, SQL Server Mgt Studio, CF Builder, Adobe Creative Suite (primarily DW and PS), MS Office, and various browsers and other tools. Dell? Lenovo? Asus (seems to be mostly gaming oriented)? Acer? Gateway? Others? Thanks, -Matt ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/message.cfm/messageid:347301 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/unsubscribe.cfm