Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Here's what I do.  I file this under the category "elegant hack".

The content that I want to index resides in a table.  To
over-simplify, the table contains a numeric identifier (key), text and
date fields.

I create a collection that indexes just text search terms (i.e. just
the text fields).

I have an "advanced search" interface.  If the text field is a Verity
term (I created a UDF that determines if the search is Verity or not),
I search against my collection and return a resultset of just keys.  I
then create a list of those keys.  Finally, I pass that list of keys
(I return a max of 1,000) in to a standard SQL query "IN" statement
within the WHERE clause that filters the other defined parameters of
the SQL query (including any date logic).

Works great, I don't have to be limited by having only 4 CUSTOM
fields, it gives me far more search flexibility, and it only adds a
bit of overhead to the verity search.

Pete

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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Dave.Phillips
Ray,

PROBLEM SOLVED  Here's how I ended up doing it:

First, I had to store my 'modifiedDate' value in custom1 with an identifier 
(since I was already using custom1 and custom2 for other values), so it looks 
like this:

custom1= "identifier|mm/dd/|"

Then, before my CFSEARCH, I created 7 variables with the last 7 days in them 
respectively formatted like this:

Day0 = |08/19/2005|
Day1 = |08/18/2005|
Day2 = |08/17/2005|
and so on...

Then, my 

And finally...it works.. I need no Query of Queries anymore and I avoided 
creating two separate collections.

The keys to this solution were twofold.  One, you have to use 'cf_' prefixed to 
your cfsearch results field (i.e. cf_custom1, cf_title) to search it.  I found 
this FINALLY in the docs, and of course the other was figuring out how to store 
the date in a field that was already occupied, and by using the pipes, I can 
properly identify the date now.

Dave

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Actually, you can use the CUSTOM1 field instead. The only difference
is how you run your cfsearch.
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Raymond Camden
You can't do a comparison like that. What I meant was to use CUSTOM1
with 2 strings, New or Old. Then in your search, you would do

#form.searchterms# and CUSTOM1  New

This says - search on the value of form.searchterms AND restrict it to
where CUSTOM1 contains New.

On 8/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it possible to specify values for the custom1 or custom2 field in my 
> CFSEARCH tag?  I don't find that in the docs.
> 
> Can I add this to my criteria?:
> 
> custom1 >= #dateadd('d',-7,now())#
> 
> or something like that?
> 
> I'm going to try something like this.  I'll let you know how it works...
> 
> Dave
> 
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> Actually, you can use the CUSTOM1 field instead. The only difference
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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Dave.Phillips
Is it possible to specify values for the custom1 or custom2 field in my 
CFSEARCH tag?  I don't find that in the docs.

Can I add this to my criteria?:

custom1 >= #dateadd('d',-7,now())# 

or something like that?

I'm going to try something like this.  I'll let you know how it works...

Dave

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Actually, you can use the CUSTOM1 field instead. The only difference
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Raymond Camden
Actually, you can use the CUSTOM1 field instead. The only difference
is how you run your cfsearch.

On 8/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately we're on MX 6.1 here.  I will let you know how the QofQ works.  
> But that's good to know information anyway for other projects I do (I have MX 
> 7 on my own servers).
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:56 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates
> 
> 
> CFMX7 dramatically improved the Verity support within CFMX. One of the
> new features is categories. So consider the follow example - you index
> your content daily. For content where the data is older than 7 days,
> you assign the category Old. For content within 7 days, you assign the
> category New.
> 
> On the CFSEARCH side, you can then filter based on category=New, or
> Old, or don't worry about it.
> 
> If you go to my blog, you can download the powerpoint and watch the
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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Dave.Phillips
Unfortunately we're on MX 6.1 here.  I will let you know how the QofQ works.  
But that's good to know information anyway for other projects I do (I have MX 7 
on my own servers).

Thanks!

Dave

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CFMX7 dramatically improved the Verity support within CFMX. One of the
new features is categories. So consider the follow example - you index
your content daily. For content where the data is older than 7 days,
you assign the category Old. For content within 7 days, you assign the
category New.

On the CFSEARCH side, you can then filter based on category=New, or
Old, or don't worry about it.

If you go to my blog, you can download the powerpoint and watch the
preso I did yesterday on CFMX7 and Verity. (It's a recorded Breeze
preso, so you get to hear my lovely voice and see my handsome face. ;)

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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Russ Michaels
Bucket anyone :-)

 

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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 August 2005 13:56
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

CFMX7 dramatically improved the Verity support within CFMX. One of the new
features is categories. So consider the follow example - you index your
content daily. For content where the data is older than 7 days, you assign
the category Old. For content within 7 days, you assign the category New.

On the CFSEARCH side, you can then filter based on category=New, or Old, or
don't worry about it.

If you go to my blog, you can download the powerpoint and watch the preso I
did yesterday on CFMX7 and Verity. (It's a recorded Breeze preso, so you get
to hear my lovely voice and see my handsome face. ;)

On 8/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> Can you elaborate on that idea?  We do index daily.  I'm unclear on how
you're using the word 'category' but very interested.  One thing I don't
want to do is add another index based on another query (that limits records
to those modified last 7 days) as this would extend the index job time which
is already at almost 2 hours.
> 
> I'll be working on the QofQ today.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:12 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates
> 
> 
> How often do you index your data? If you do it daily, you could easily 
> use a category called "Last7Days", then filter on that category.
> 
> On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying
the database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to
have to use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I need
to search for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 days,
so I'll just use the QofQ to make it work.
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Raymond Camden
CFMX7 dramatically improved the Verity support within CFMX. One of the
new features is categories. So consider the follow example - you index
your content daily. For content where the data is older than 7 days,
you assign the category Old. For content within 7 days, you assign the
category New.

On the CFSEARCH side, you can then filter based on category=New, or
Old, or don't worry about it.

If you go to my blog, you can download the powerpoint and watch the
preso I did yesterday on CFMX7 and Verity. (It's a recorded Breeze
preso, so you get to hear my lovely voice and see my handsome face. ;)

On 8/19/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> Can you elaborate on that idea?  We do index daily.  I'm unclear on how 
> you're using the word 'category' but very interested.  One thing I don't want 
> to do is add another index based on another query (that limits records to 
> those modified last 7 days) as this would extend the index job time which is 
> already at almost 2 hours.
> 
> I'll be working on the QofQ today.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:12 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates
> 
> 
> How often do you index your data? If you do it daily, you could easily
> use a category called "Last7Days", then filter on that category.
> 
> On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying 
> > the database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to 
> > have to use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I 
> > need to search for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 
> > days, so I'll just use the QofQ to make it work.
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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-19 Thread Dave.Phillips
Ray,

Can you elaborate on that idea?  We do index daily.  I'm unclear on how you're 
using the word 'category' but very interested.  One thing I don't want to do is 
add another index based on another query (that limits records to those modified 
last 7 days) as this would extend the index job time which is already at almost 
2 hours.

I'll be working on the QofQ today.

Thanks,

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates


How often do you index your data? If you do it daily, you could easily
use a category called "Last7Days", then filter on that category.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying the 
> database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to have 
> to use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I need to 
> search for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 days, so 
> I'll just use the QofQ to make it work.
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Raymond Camden
How often do you index your data? If you do it daily, you could easily
use a category called "Last7Days", then filter on that category.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying the 
> database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to have 
> to use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I need to 
> search for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 days, so 
> I'll just use the QofQ to make it work.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Dave
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:35 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates
> 
> 
> Another option you may want to consider. If your date searching can be
> a bit "loose", you can use categories, with names like May2005,
> April2005, etc. This would allow you to match eocuments wihin a month.
> Or even CategoryTree=2005,Category=2004. You couldn't do everything
> _before_ a day, but, it's an option.
> 
> Also - I'd reconsider your QofQ. We use it for a large site and it
> works very quickly. We do an initial CFSEARCH and then 20 QofQs to
> filter out various parts of the results.
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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Dave.Phillips
Well, that sounds good on the QofQ...I know it's faster than re-querying the 
database, but sounds pretty quick based on what you said.  I'm going to have to 
use it anyway, I don't have much of an option.  In this case, I need to search 
for documents (and query results) modified within the last 7 days, so I'll just 
use the QofQ to make it work.

Thanks!

Dave

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From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates


Another option you may want to consider. If your date searching can be
a bit "loose", you can use categories, with names like May2005,
April2005, etc. This would allow you to match eocuments wihin a month.
Or even CategoryTree=2005,Category=2004. You couldn't do everything
_before_ a day, but, it's an option.

Also - I'd reconsider your QofQ. We use it for a large site and it
works very quickly. We do an initial CFSEARCH and then 20 QofQs to
filter out various parts of the results.
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Raymond Camden
Another option you may want to consider. If your date searching can be
a bit "loose", you can use categories, with names like May2005,
April2005, etc. This would allow you to match eocuments wihin a month.
Or even CategoryTree=2005,Category=2004. You couldn't do everything
_before_ a day, but, it's an option.

Also - I'd reconsider your QofQ. We use it for a large site and it
works very quickly. We do an initial CFSEARCH and then 20 QofQs to
filter out various parts of the results.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering that.  It's a bit unclear, but that sort of makes sense.  
> However, it's too bad it can't be done with a custom index.  I know I could 
> put a date in the custom1 or custom2 field, but I'm trying to avoid having a 
> QofQ on the client side, just for performance sake.  I was trying to figure 
> out if there is a way to do it with the criteria options in the cfsearch tag, 
> but so far, no luck.  At this stage, I will probably build a QofQ to do it 
> unless someone else comes up with something.
> 
> Thanks Ray,
> 
> Dave
> 
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> After rereading your post, I believe the doc is referring to the
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> believe you can do this with custom indexes.
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RE: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Dave.Phillips
I was wondering that.  It's a bit unclear, but that sort of makes sense.  
However, it's too bad it can't be done with a custom index.  I know I could put 
a date in the custom1 or custom2 field, but I'm trying to avoid having a QofQ 
on the client side, just for performance sake.  I was trying to figure out if 
there is a way to do it with the criteria options in the cfsearch tag, but so 
far, no luck.  At this stage, I will probably build a QofQ to do it unless 
someone else comes up with something.

Thanks Ray,

Dave

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After rereading your post, I believe the doc is referring to the
indexing of files, like Word docs, that have a date property. I don't
believe you can do this with custom indexes.

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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Raymond Camden
After rereading your post, I believe the doc is referring to the
indexing of files, like Word docs, that have a date property. I don't
believe you can do this with custom indexes.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I found this quote in the docs for MX 6.1 under 'composing search 
> expressions':
> 
> "if a document field named DATE is defined, you can search for documents 
> dated prior to and including December 31, 1999 by entering DATE <= 12-31-99 
> in your search."
> 
> Now, if this is true, theoretically I could return a query with a date I want 
> to search by, and when I do my cfindex, I would specify it like this?
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,date"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> Then, when I search on this index, i could say search for:  "stuff AND DATE 
> >= 01-01-05"   This would return only the documents which have a 'date' 
> greater than Jan. 1 of this year AND have the word 'stuff' in them.
> 
> Now, here's my problem...it seems that Oracle won't allow me to alias a 
> column in the table I'm getting the query from as 'DATE'.  So, I tried this 
> with the actual date field, call it 'DateField' and did my index like this:
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,DateField"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> So, then I tried the query but used DateField >= instead of DATE >= and it 
> still doesn't work.
> 
> So now I'm beginning to wonder if there is there a way to query a collection 
> by a date field.  If so, what am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
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Re: cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Raymond Camden
I'm not sure why it isn't working, but you could use QueryOfQuery to
rename the column back to Date.

On 8/18/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I found this quote in the docs for MX 6.1 under 'composing search 
> expressions':
> 
> "if a document field named DATE is defined, you can search for documents 
> dated prior to and including December 31, 1999 by entering DATE <= 12-31-99 
> in your search."
> 
> Now, if this is true, theoretically I could return a query with a date I want 
> to search by, and when I do my cfindex, I would specify it like this?
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,date"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> Then, when I search on this index, i could say search for:  "stuff AND DATE 
> >= 01-01-05"   This would return only the documents which have a 'date' 
> greater than Jan. 1 of this year AND have the word 'stuff' in them.
> 
> Now, here's my problem...it seems that Oracle won't allow me to alias a 
> column in the table I'm getting the query from as 'DATE'.  So, I tried this 
> with the actual date field, call it 'DateField' and did my index like this:
> 
>  collection="collection"
> action="update"
> type="custom"
> key="key"
> title="title"
> body="body,DateField"
> custom1="custom1"
> custom2="custom2"
> >
> 
> So, then I tried the query but used DateField >= instead of DATE >= and it 
> still doesn't work.
> 
> So now I'm beginning to wonder if there is there a way to query a collection 
> by a date field.  If so, what am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
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cfindex/cfsearch help with dates

2005-08-18 Thread Dave.Phillips
Hi,

I found this quote in the docs for MX 6.1 under 'composing search expressions':

"if a document field named DATE is defined, you can search for documents dated 
prior to and including December 31, 1999 by entering DATE <= 12-31-99 in your 
search." 

Now, if this is true, theoretically I could return a query with a date I want 
to search by, and when I do my cfindex, I would specify it like this?



Then, when I search on this index, i could say search for:  "stuff AND DATE >= 
01-01-05"   This would return only the documents which have a 'date' greater 
than Jan. 1 of this year AND have the word 'stuff' in them.

Now, here's my problem...it seems that Oracle won't allow me to alias a column 
in the table I'm getting the query from as 'DATE'.  So, I tried this with the 
actual date field, call it 'DateField' and did my index like this:



So, then I tried the query but used DateField >= instead of DATE >= and it 
still doesn't work.

So now I'm beginning to wonder if there is there a way to query a collection by 
a date field.  If so, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

Dave
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