OT: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-21 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping somebody on
the list can tell me if theres a way to do these 2 things:

1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title bar. Having
only the file name and the last directory visible and not being able
to get the full path from file properties, etc. makes it really
difficult for me to keep track of what I'm doing, especially when I've
got more than one site with the same directory and I need to know
which site I'm editing.

2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed files?"
dialog when I remove or rename files.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Dave Watts
> I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping 
> somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do 
> these 2 things:
> 
> 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title 
> bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible 
> and not being able to get the full path from file properties, 
> etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what 
> I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with 
> the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> 
> 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed 
> files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.

First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004; I
have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.

Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
behaviors make sense.

When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you shouldn't
have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files actually
are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within your
site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
file you're actually working on.

Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update files"
dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references to
that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
though.

A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
take a look at it.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title bar. Having
> only the file name and the last directory visible and not being able
> to get the full path from file properties, etc. makes it really
> difficult for me to keep track of what I'm doing, especially when I've
> got more than one site with the same directory and I need to know
> which site I'm editing.

It's not possible out of the box. I know somebody created his own custom
toolbar with a text field that show the full path. A little bit of an hack,
but it does the job :-)


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Calvin Ward
I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
> less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
> managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
> helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
> the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
> take a look at it.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
> 
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
> less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
> managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
> helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
> the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
> take a look at it.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
> 

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
> was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Cast your vote:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Yes this is one of the features I quite liked in CFstudio anyone know if
this has been included in the new Dreamweaver?

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 14:20
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> While we are on DW subject...
>> 
>> I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
>> different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
way
>> to
>> go.
>> 
>> One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
>> It
>> was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.
>> 
>> Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative
path
>> based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
>> directory, so a file that looks like this:
>> 
>> C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
>> myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX
and
>> 2004:
>> 
>> myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)
>> 
>> If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
>> would
>> be reasonable :)
>> 
>> I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
(Windows
>> only) in a toolbar...
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Calvin
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
>> Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> 
>> > > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
>> > > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
>> > > these 2 things:
>> > >
>> > > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
>> > > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
>> > > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
>> > > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
>> > > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
>> > > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
>> > >
>> > > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
>> > > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>> >
>> > First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with
DWMX
>> 2004;
>> I
>> > have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
>> > suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do
that".
>> > However, within the site-based work style encouraged by
Dreamweaver,
>> these
>> > behaviors make sense.
>> >
>> > When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you
don't
>> have
>> > to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
>> Dreamweaver
>> > provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
>> shouldn't
>> > have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
>> actually
>> > are - after all, you may have local and remote site information
within
>> your
>> > site definition, and those paths may well change between the two.
It
>> would
>> > be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site
containing
>> the
>> > file you're actually working on.
>> >
>> > Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the
"Update
>> files"
>> > dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
>> references
>> to
>> > that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem
browser
>> > instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
>> Dreamweaver,
>> > though.
>> >
>> > A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of
working,
>> and
>> > if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it
may
>> be
>> > less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML,
and
>> for
>> > managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it
less
>> > helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004
>> deemphasizes
>> > the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may
want
>> to
>> > take a look at it.
>> >
>> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
>> > http://www.figleaf.com/
>> > voice: (202) 797-5496
>> > fax: (202) 797-5444
>> >
>> >
>> 
>>

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
>> It
>> > was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
>> 
>> Cast your vote:
>> 
>> http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
> 2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
> supported?
> 
> . Split code view

No

> . Collapsible code

No

> . Code templates
> . Bookmarks
> . Search and save as a file

Do you mind explnain the 3 above? 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Bailey, Neal
Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, "Code", "Split"
and "Design". Click on "Split" to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
> less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
> managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
> helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
> the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
> take a look at it.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
>
> 


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, "Code", "Split"
and "Design". Click on "Split" to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
> less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for
> managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
> helpful, although I still typically use it anyway. DWMX 2004 deemphasizes
> the reliance on setting up sites, as I understand it, so you may want to
> take a look at it.
>
> Dave Wa

RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
1) Code Templates

If you mean the ability to create and load templates to use as new files
then the Dreamweaver does support this.

2) Search and save as a file

If you mean the ability to save search/replace queries and load them
again at a later point then yes, Dreamweaver does support this.

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
>> It
>> > was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
>> 
>> Cast your vote:
>> 
>> http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
>> 
>> > . Code templates

Associating code to keywords as in cfstudio - e.g. if you have a code
template associated with the word header after typing the keyword
"header" and hitting ctrl-j the code will be inserted. In my view this
is much more flexible than assigning code to shortcut key combinations.

>> > . Bookmarks

In cfstudio - ctrl-k will place a numbered marker at that particular
line. Ctrl-shift-k will then jump to all numbered markers. Allows you to
quickly jump to a section of code without doing a search.

>> > . Search and save as a file

If you do an extended find in cfstudio as well as being able to open
results in a browser, you can also export to a text file. Very useful
when you need a hardcopy of someone's unlocked session variables to show
them. ;-)

Kola

>> 
>> Do you mind explnain the 3 above?
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Bailey, Neal
Yeah sorry about that I misunderstood your message. 

Yes that would be a nice feature to have... 

- Neal


-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, "Code", "Split"
and "Design". Click on "Split" to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX 2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question, and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver, these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site. Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working, and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may be
> less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and for

Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Phillip B
> So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
> bottom at the same time.
>

You can do this by clicking on "Code Inspector" at the bottom of
Dreamweaver.

Phillip B.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp
I also would like to have a custom Tool Bar and be able to create a button
for it by selecting a Shortcut. I guess that would like a MACRO. Create a
button that does a list of commands in order and with conditions.

I liked the buttons on the side in Studio for indenting code, now it's a
shortcut under 'Text'.

I am a mouse user and not so much on the short cuts.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

1) Code Templates

If you mean the ability to create and load templates to use as new files
then the Dreamweaver does support this.

2) Search and save as a file

If you mean the ability to save search/replace queries and load them
again at a later point then yes, Dreamweaver does support this.

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
>> It
>> > was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
>> 
>> Cast your vote:
>> 
>> http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>



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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> I also would like to have a custom Tool Bar and be able to create a button
> for it by selecting a Shortcut. I guess that would like a MACRO. Create a
> button that does a list of commands in order and with conditions.

It's doable, pretty easy, it's just not GUI-driven, you need to customize
the configuration files by hand


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> >> > . Code templates
>
> Associating code to keywords as in cfstudio - e.g. if you have a code
> template associated with the word header after typing the keyword
> "header" and hitting ctrl-j the code will be inserted. In my view this
> is much more flexible than assigning code to shortcut key combinations.

I see, I almost never use keyborad shortcuts, that's why I missed it.
Anyway, it's missing in DW 2004


> >> > . Bookmarks
>
> In cfstudio - ctrl-k will place a numbered marker at that particular
> line. Ctrl-shift-k will then jump to all numbered markers. Allows you to
> quickly jump to a section of code without doing a search.

Same as above


> >> > . Search and save as a file
>
> If you do an extended find in cfstudio as well as being able to open
> results in a browser, you can also export to a text file. Very useful
> when you need a hardcopy of someone's unlocked session variables to show
> them. ;-)

In DW, both MX and 2004, you can save the results of "Site Reports", not
Search & Replace. I agree, it's an handy feature


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Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
Not a solution but:

In Dreamweaver, using just the Tab key will indent blocks of code for
you. You can't do that in Studio.

You can write your own extensions to create your own toolbars if you
want.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:51
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

I also would like to have a custom Tool Bar and be able to create a
button
for it by selecting a Shortcut. I guess that would like a MACRO. Create
a
button that does a list of commands in order and with conditions.

I liked the buttons on the side in Studio for indenting code, now it's a
shortcut under 'Text'.

I am a mouse user and not so much on the short cuts.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

1) Code Templates

If you mean the ability to create and load templates to use as new files
then the Dreamweaver does support this.

2) Search and save as a file

If you mean the ability to save search/replace queries and load them
again at a later point then yes, Dreamweaver does support this.

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Massimo 

Before I cast my vote - not having the opportunity to yet download DWMX
2004 does anyone know if any of the following features are now
supported?

.   Split code view
.   Collapsible code
.   Code templates
.   Bookmarks
.   Search and save as a file

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 14:18
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
gone?
>> It
>> > was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
>> 
>> Cast your vote:
>> 
>> http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>




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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
F10 Code Inspector.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View
at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When
you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, "Code",
"Split"
and "Design". Click on "Split" to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone?
It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
(Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX
2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver,
these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't
have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It
would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing
the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working,
and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may
be
> less helpful. I find it very useful for working with static HTML, and
for
> managing Contribute users. For application development, I find it less
> helpful, alt

RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
thought that was now deprecated?

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 22 September 2003 15:13
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


F10 Code Inspector.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the
code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the
bottom at the same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View
at
the same time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When
you
open a document you will see on the top tab three buttons, "Code",
"Split"
and "Design". Click on "Split" to switch to split screen mode. This is
defiantly one the most useful features of Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
way to
go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone?
It
was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path
based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
directory, so a file that looks like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
would
be reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
(Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> > these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX
2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that".
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver,
these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't
have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It
would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing
the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
Dreamweaver,
> though.
>
> A lot of the "Site" stuff is best suited to a specific way of working,
and
> if you work that way, it's very helpful. If you don't, though, it may

Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> thought that was now deprecated?
> 
No, it survived :-)


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Dave Carabetta
>Not a solution but:
>
>In Dreamweaver, using just the Tab key will indent blocks of code for
>you. You can't do that in Studio.
>

Sure you can. In HomeSite+, hit F8 to bring up the Options. Click on the 
Editor option in the left nav pane. Check the 4th checkbox from the bottom 
("Tab/Shift+Tab performs block indent/unindent") and then Apply and you're 
good to go.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Damn it ;-)

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Sent: 22 September 2003 15:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff


> thought that was now deprecated?
> 
No, it survived :-)


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
So 

Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is possible in
DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but this
isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those features.

I'll add them to the wish list. 

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:06
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > >> > . Code templates
>> >
>> > Associating code to keywords as in cfstudio - e.g. if you have a
code
>> > template associated with the word header after typing the keyword
>> > "header" and hitting ctrl-j the code will be inserted. In my view
this
>> > is much more flexible than assigning code to shortcut key
combinations.
>> 
>> I see, I almost never use keyborad shortcuts, that's why I missed it.
>> Anyway, it's missing in DW 2004
>> 
>> 
>> > >> > . Bookmarks
>> >
>> > In cfstudio - ctrl-k will place a numbered marker at that
particular
>> > line. Ctrl-shift-k will then jump to all numbered markers. Allows
you
>> to
>> > quickly jump to a section of code without doing a search.
>> 
>> Same as above
>> 
>> 
>> > >> > . Search and save as a file
>> >
>> > If you do an extended find in cfstudio as well as being able to
open
>> > results in a browser, you can also export to a text file. Very
useful
>> > when you need a hardcopy of someone's unlocked session variables to
>> show
>> > them. ;-)
>> 
>> In DW, both MX and 2004, you can save the results of "Site Reports",
not
>> Search & Replace. I agree, it's an handy feature
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
Right you are.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 15:20
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

>Not a solution but:
>
>In Dreamweaver, using just the Tab key will indent blocks of code for
>you. You can't do that in Studio.
>

Sure you can. In HomeSite+, hit F8 to bring up the Options. Click on the

Editor option in the left nav pane. Check the 4th checkbox from the
bottom 
("Tab/Shift+Tab performs block indent/unindent") and then Apply and
you're 
good to go.

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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Aunger, Mitch
Cool - but it does have a nasty habit of not retaining your position within the code 
inspector window when you switch between templates - which I do all the time :( 

(picky aren't i?)

Mitch

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:13 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


F10 Code Inspector.

André

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 14:42
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

No I am referring to Split View in CF Studio it gives you 2 views of the code. 

Example:

So you can look at a query at the top of the Doc and a CFOUTPUT at the bottom at the 
same time.

Collapsible code is nice also.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

Hey Rick,

If you are referring to viewing your page in Code View and Design View at the same 
time, then Yes this feature is still present in MX 2004. When you open a document you 
will see on the top tab three buttons, "Code", "Split" and "Design". Click on "Split" 
to switch to split screen mode. This is defiantly one the most useful features of 
Dreamweaver. 

- Neal

-Original Message-
From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

While we are on DW subject...

I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and different 
developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the way to go. 

One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this gone? It was really 
helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff

I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.

Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative path based on the 
Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one directory, so a file that looks 
like this:

C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where myCoolSite is 
the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX and
2004:

myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)

If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it would be 
reasonable :)

I have partially written an extension to show the full file path (Windows
only) in a toolbar...

HTH,
Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping somebody on 
> > the list can tell me if theres a way to do these 2 things:
> >
> > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title bar. Having 
> > only the file name and the last directory visible and not being able 
> > to get the full path from file properties, etc. makes it really 
> > difficult for me to keep track of what I'm doing, especially when 
> > I've got more than one site with the same directory and I need to 
> > know which site I'm editing.
> >
> > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed 
> > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
>
> First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with DWMX
2004;
I
> have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
and
> suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do that". 
> However, within the site-based work style encouraged by Dreamweaver,
these
> behaviors make sense.
>
> When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you don't
have
> to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
Dreamweaver
> provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
shouldn't
> have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
actually
> are - after all, you may have local and remote site information within
your
> site definition, and those paths may well change between the two. It
would
> be nice, though, if the Site panel updated to show the site containing
the
> file you're actually working on.
>
> Also, when you move or rename a file through Dreamweaver, the "Update
files"
> dialog box is one of the benefits - it automatically fixes any
references
to
> that file. If you do these operations through your filesystem browser 
> instead of through Dreamweaver, you won't get a prompt within
Dreamweaver,
> though.

Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is possible in
> DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but this
> isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those features.

I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not ever.
Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Mike Kear
IN the first version of Dreamweaver I used, (3 I think) there was no dialog
box to tweak the code sweeper.  We ended up sharing a trick to edit a file,
ad I managed to get the sweeper to give me neat and tidy code, EXACTLY how I
like it - new line in front of this tag,  that tag no new line,  this other
tag two new lines to make it separate from the other code.  For example two
lines before a start table tag  and two lines after a end table tag meant
the table stood out nicely in the code.

Anyway, the point is, I can't get the code sweeper to give me exactly what I
like - it's a compromise.  Is there a way to tweak the code sweeper in DWMX
without using the dialog box?



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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Kola Oyedeji
A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
possible in
>> > DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
>> this
>> > isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
>> features.
>> 
>> I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
>> ever.
>> Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> Anyway, the point is, I can't get the code sweeper to give me exactly what
I
> like - it's a compromise.  Is there a way to tweak the code sweeper in
DWMX
> without using the dialog box?

You can try messing around with the VTML files (yes, DW use VTML too in the
background).
But I never tried it myself, so I can't suggest anything more


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
> products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)
>
I have no idea about MM's strategic plans, I use Homeste and DW side by side
since late 1997, long before the merge.

Anyway, if you buy DW you get Homesite+ (CF Studio renamed) and you pay less
than the former cost of CF Studio, not a bad deal after all.


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Calvin Ward
Split view can be emulated by using Code Inspector and Code View in DWMX.

- Calvin

- Original Message - 
From: "Kola Oyedeji" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff


> Yes this is one of the features I quite liked in CFstudio anyone know if
> this has been included in the new Dreamweaver?
>
> Kola
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 22 September 2003 14:20
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
> >>
> >> While we are on DW subject...
> >>
> >> I just started using it last week now that I have multiple sites and
> >> different developers working on them Studio just didn't seem like the
> way
> >> to
> >> go.
> >>
> >> One thing I miss or can't seem to find is the Split View. Is this
> gone?
> >> It
> >> was really helpful to look at 2 areas of code on a page at once.
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:43 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
> >>
> >> I do know the answer to the first question is definitely no.
> >>
> >> Part of the problem with the title bar is that it is not a relative
> path
> >> based on the Site, it's relative to the document and only goes one
> >> directory, so a file that looks like this:
> >>
> >> C:\MySites\myCoolSite\mySubDir\myOtherDir\myChildDir\myfile.cfm where
> >> myCoolSite is the DW site root, will display like this in both DWMX
> and
> >> 2004:
> >>
> >> myCoolSite (myChildDir/myfile.cfm)
> >>
> >> If indeed DWMX DID show the entire path relative to the site, then it
> >> would
> >> be reasonable :)
> >>
> >> I have partially written an extension to show the full file path
> (Windows
> >> only) in a toolbar...
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Calvin
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Dave Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 8:38 AM
> >> Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff
> >>
> >>
> >> > > I'm trying to acclimatize to dreamweaver and I'm hoping
> >> > > somebody on the list can tell me if theres a way to do
> >> > > these 2 things:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1) display the entire file path in the dreamweaver title
> >> > > bar. Having only the file name and the last directory visible
> >> > > and not being able to get the full path from file properties,
> >> > > etc. makes it really difficult for me to keep track of what
> >> > > I'm doing, especially when I've got more than one site with
> >> > > the same directory and I need to know which site I'm editing.
> >> > >
> >> > > 2) eliminate the "Update Files: Scan site for links to renamed
> >> > > files?" dialog when I remove or rename files.
> >> >
> >> > First, let me preface this by saying I haven't worked much with
> DWMX
> >> 2004;
> >> I
> >> > have worked quite a bit with DWMX 6.1, though.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately, I don't have definitive answers for either question,
> and
> >> > suspect that for both of them, the answer is "no, you can't do
> that".
> >> > However, within the site-based work style encouraged by
> Dreamweaver,
> >> these
> >> > behaviors make sense.
> >> >
> >> > When you create a site, one of the benefits of this is that you
> don't
> >> have
> >> > to deal with file paths directly, when working with that site.
> >> Dreamweaver
> >> > provides a site-relative path in the title bar, and in theory, you
> >> shouldn't
> >> > have to worry too much about where on the filesystem the site files
> >> actually
> >> > are - after all, you may have local and remote site information
> within
> >> your
> >> > site definition, and those paths may well change between the two.
> It
> >> would
> >> > be nice, though, if the Si

RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread cfhelp


Rick

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 9:37 AM
To: CF-Talk

A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
possible in
>> > DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
>> this
>> > isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
>> features.
>> 
>> I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
>> ever.
>> Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Calvin Ward
Dreamweaver comes with HomeSite+ which is CF Studio.

- Calvin
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> A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
> products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)
>
> Kola
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
> >>
> >> > Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
> possible in
> >> > DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
> >> this
> >> > isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
> >> features.
> >>
> >> I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
> >> ever.
> >> Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
> >>
> >> 
> >> Massimo Foti
> >> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> >> http://www.massimocorner.com/
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something like
that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products that
have such a large overlap of functionality?

André

-Original Message-
From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 22 September 2003 15:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: dreamweaver stuff

A Now I see what MM is up to - we're supposed to buy both
products and use Dreamweaver side by side with CF studio ;-)

Kola

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: 22 September 2003 15:29
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: dreamweaver stuff
>> 
>> > Out of those 5 developer-centric features only 1 of them is
possible in
>> > DWMX? I don't believe in knocking things before you've tried it but
>> this
>> > isn't a good start is it? Perhaps I'm the only one using those
>> features.
>> 
>> I never suggested DW MX can replace Homesite/CF Studio, not here, not
>> ever.
>> Personally I am happy using both side by side (plus TopStyle)
>> 
>> 
>> Massimo Foti
>> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
>> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
>> http://www.massimocorner.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>


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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

Right. But if you, like me, don't need the additional functionalities,
Homesite 5.5 is 99 bucks (29 for the upgrade)


> You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something like
> that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

It never changed since DW MX was released, almost a year and an half ago


> You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products that
> have such a large overlap of functionality?

That's indeed a good question


Massimo Foti
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
AFAIK...HS 5.5 is HS+?

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> In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

Right. But if you, like me, don't need the additional functionalities,
Homesite 5.5 is 99 bucks (29 for the upgrade)


> You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something like
> that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

It never changed since DW MX was released, almost a year and an half ago


> You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products that
> have such a large overlap of functionality?

That's indeed a good question


Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
http://www.massimocorner.com/




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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Raymond Camden
> In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.

Correct.

> You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or 
> something like that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.

Eh? This was done about a year ago I think. It's not flipped back and
forth at all. MACR simply stopped selling ColdFusion Studio, renamed it
as HS+ and put it with DW. Whether you like that move or not, I don't
think MACR is being wishy-washy about it.


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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
> > In order to get Homesite+ I'm pretty sure you need to buy DW.
> 
> Right. But if you, like me, don't need the additional functionalities,
> Homesite 5.5 is 99 bucks (29 for the upgrade)
> 
> 
> > You can get Homesite by itself but not Homesite+or something
like
> > that. It's changing every 5 minutes so who knows.
> 
> It never changed since DW MX was released, almost a year and an half
ago

That'll shut me up.
 
> 
> > You have to ask yourself, will MM continue developing two products
that
> > have such a large overlap of functionality?
> 
> That's indeed a good question
> 
> 
> Massimo Foti
> Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
> http://www.massimocorner.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Andre Mohamed
> Eh? This was done about a year ago I think. It's not flipped back and
> forth at all. MACR simply stopped selling ColdFusion Studio, renamed
it
> as HS+ and put it with DW. Whether you like that move or not, I don't
> think MACR is being wishy-washy about it.

I've been corrected on this point already. That'll teach me to comment.

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Re: dreamweaver stuff

2003-09-22 Thread Massimo Foti
> AFAIK...HS 5.5 is HS+?
>
Lot's of confusion, isn't it? :-)

No, HS 5.5 is just HS 5.5.

Homesite+ is the former CF Studio, with Query Builder, Debugger (CF 5 only)
and the like.

In my own opinion CF Studio additional features weren't worth the price
compared to Homesite. So I always used Homesite.


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