Re: html standards
There's actually a custom tag (by Steve Nelson) called cf_HTMLHead that does this - I use it on most of my applications: http://www.fusebox.org//download/tags/htmlhead.zip - Original Message - From: "Kevin Bridges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: RE: html standards > That cfhtmlhead tag is pretty sweet ... However, can someone please > pass on > to Macromedia that it makes zero sense to call it like so: > > It should be called like this: > > > Now if we want to start using cfhtmlhead we have to go through all of > our js > code and make sure the quotes are escaped and don't conflict with the > type > of quote you use in "". > > ::: -Original Message- > ::: From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > ::: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:36 AM > ::: To: CF-Talk > ::: Subject: RE: html standards > ::: > ::: > ::: > Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where > ::: > there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header > ::: > files and such. The blah blah > ::: > section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much > ::: > of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple > ::: > script block outside the tags. Also, we've > ::: > recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm > ::: > file. > ::: > ::: The short answer is, no, current browsers don't care where > ::: your JavaScript > ::: is, as long as functions and objects are defined before > ::: they're referenced. > ::: However, standards compliance is a good thing, all other > ::: things being equal, > ::: and future browsers may care. > ::: > ::: Fortunately, you can deal with this using the CFHTMLHEAD > ::: tag, which writes a > ::: string to the HTML HEAD of the document. By itself, it's > ::: difficult to use > ::: with strings containing JavaScript, so you can build > ::: yourself a little > ::: four-line custom tag to automatically escape the strings: > ::: > ::: > ::: > ::: > ::: > ::: > ::: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > ::: http://www.figleaf.com/ > ::: voice: (202) 797-5496 > ::: fax: (202) 797-5444 > ::: > ::: __ > ::: Dedicated Windows 2000 Server > ::: PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER > ::: Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup > ::: http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona > ::: FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq > ::: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ > ::: Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: html standards
That cfhtmlhead tag is pretty sweet ... However, can someone please pass on to Macromedia that it makes zero sense to call it like so: It should be called like this: Now if we want to start using cfhtmlhead we have to go through all of our js code and make sure the quotes are escaped and don't conflict with the type of quote you use in "". ::: -Original Message- ::: From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ::: Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 10:36 AM ::: To: CF-Talk ::: Subject: RE: html standards ::: ::: ::: > Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where ::: > there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header ::: > files and such. The blah blah ::: > section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much ::: > of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple ::: > script block outside the tags. Also, we've ::: > recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm ::: > file. ::: ::: The short answer is, no, current browsers don't care where ::: your JavaScript ::: is, as long as functions and objects are defined before ::: they're referenced. ::: However, standards compliance is a good thing, all other ::: things being equal, ::: and future browsers may care. ::: ::: Fortunately, you can deal with this using the CFHTMLHEAD ::: tag, which writes a ::: string to the HTML HEAD of the document. By itself, it's ::: difficult to use ::: with strings containing JavaScript, so you can build ::: yourself a little ::: four-line custom tag to automatically escape the strings: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: ::: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software ::: http://www.figleaf.com/ ::: voice: (202) 797-5496 ::: fax: (202) 797-5444 ::: ::: __ ::: Dedicated Windows 2000 Server ::: PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER ::: Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup ::: http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona ::: FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq ::: Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ ::: Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: html standards
Andre, The main difference in the placement of the tags is this... ..you place JS functions in the <head> which are called from within the document/by other functions. When you place <script> tags within the <body> you are usually just creating in-line JS; e.g. if you want a certain function called, the browser exexutes the call when it gets to that point in the body.--likesay, on one site I worked on, we place an inline script that made a call to the function which created out DHTML menu at the bottom, right before the closing </body> tag because the menu was dependent on where elements had been drawn by the browser. It doesn't really matter if you place <script>s within the <body>... it just allows you to invoke certain things after a certain section of the document has been written by the browser itself. - Original Message - From: "Andre Turrettini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: html standards > Hey Gang, this is an odd one. Maybe some people here have had issues with > this and if so, I'd love to know. > > Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where there is a fair > bit of code in application.cfm and in header files and such. The > <html><head> blah blah </head><body> section is in a file called dsp_header. > In some pages, much of the javascript gets included with the form as a > simple script block outside the <head></head> tags. Also, we've recently > put some javascript code in the application.cfm file. So, now the code > looks schematically like this: > > <script>blah blah blah > > > blah blah blah > > > blah blah blah > blah blah blah > blah blah blah > > > > Ideally and probably according to w3c recomendations, it should look like > > > > blah blah blah > > > blah blah blah > > > > But I've seen it like the first example in many places and it seems to work > fine. So, its certainly not xml compliant but has anybody run into any > problems doing this? Opinions? Thoughts? > > Andre Turrettini > Application Engineer > Collect America > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: html standards
> Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where > there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header > files and such. The blah blah > section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much > of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple > script block outside the tags. Also, we've > recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm > file. The short answer is, no, current browsers don't care where your JavaScript is, as long as functions and objects are defined before they're referenced. However, standards compliance is a good thing, all other things being equal, and future browsers may care. Fortunately, you can deal with this using the CFHTMLHEAD tag, which writes a string to the HTML HEAD of the document. By itself, it's difficult to use with strings containing JavaScript, so you can build yourself a little four-line custom tag to automatically escape the strings: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: html standards
You could use the cfhtmlhead tag if you did run into problems. -Original Message- From: Andre Turrettini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 January 2002 16:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: html standards Hey Gang, this is an odd one. Maybe some people here have had issues with this and if so, I'd love to know. Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header files and such. The blah blah section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple script block outside the tags. Also, we've recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm file. So, now the code looks schematically like this: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Ideally and probably according to w3c recomendations, it should look like blah blah blah blah blah blah But I've seen it like the first example in many places and it seems to work fine. So, its certainly not xml compliant but has anybody run into any problems doing this? Opinions? Thoughts? Andre Turrettini Application Engineer Collect America [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: html standards
I don't know if you do any DHTML, but I've run into problems with JavaScript and DHTML when the JS code wasn't accompanied by a BODY tag (i.e. after an opening BODY tag). Other than that I have used JS in and out of head or body tags with no problems (but if something weird happens...look there) ;-) HTH Bryan Stevenson VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Original Message - From: "Andre Turrettini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 8:56 AM Subject: html standards > Hey Gang, this is an odd one. Maybe some people here have had issues with > this and if so, I'd love to know. > > Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where there is a fair > bit of code in application.cfm and in header files and such. The > blah blah section is in a file called dsp_header. > In some pages, much of the javascript gets included with the form as a > simple script block outside the tags. Also, we've recently > put some javascript code in the application.cfm file. So, now the code > looks schematically like this: > > blah blah blah > > > blah blah blah > > > blah blah blah > blah blah blah > blah blah blah > > > > Ideally and probably according to w3c recomendations, it should look like > > > > blah blah blah > > > blah blah blah > > > > But I've seen it like the first example in many places and it seems to work > fine. So, its certainly not xml compliant but has anybody run into any > problems doing this? Opinions? Thoughts? > > Andre Turrettini > Application Engineer > Collect America > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
html standards
Hey Gang, this is an odd one. Maybe some people here have had issues with this and if so, I'd love to know. Were developing a rather large applciation/intranet where there is a fair bit of code in application.cfm and in header files and such. The blah blah section is in a file called dsp_header. In some pages, much of the javascript gets included with the form as a simple script block outside the tags. Also, we've recently put some javascript code in the application.cfm file. So, now the code looks schematically like this: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Ideally and probably according to w3c recomendations, it should look like blah blah blah blah blah blah But I've seen it like the first example in many places and it seems to work fine. So, its certainly not xml compliant but has anybody run into any problems doing this? Opinions? Thoughts? Andre Turrettini Application Engineer Collect America [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
