Re: logout and back button

2010-07-15 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 14:49:29 you wrote:
 If other programming languages can effectively end session variables, i
 still dont know what MX's problem is.

Citation needed.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-15 Thread Anene Isioma Wealth

seconded...

 Sincerely, 
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From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 1:59:38 AM
Subject: Re: logout and back button


On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 14:49:29 you wrote:
 If other programming languages can effectively end session variables, i
 still dont know what MX's problem is.

Citation needed.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-15 Thread Brad Wood

By citation needed I think the implication was that you didn't know what what 
you were talking about.  The original poster's problem had nothing to do with 
persisted session vars and everything to do with browser cache.  This can be an 
issue regardless of sever-side technology in use.

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From: Anene Isioma Wealth anene.quor...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, Jul 15, 2010 8:04 am
Subject: logout and back button
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com


seconded...

 Sincerely, 
Chuka I.W. Anene
Chief Software Eng./CEO
Quorium Solutions 
www.quorium.org
07029609185,07032696113





From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 1:59:38 AM
Subject: Re: logout and back button


On Wednesday 14 Jul 2010 14:49:29 you wrote:
 If other programming languages can effectively end session variables, i
 still dont know what MX's problem is.

Citation needed.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Anene Isioma Wealth

Thanks for the correction.
That was what i meant actually, after all, Adobe only acquired Coldfusion MX.

So sad that over the years, they are still silent about it...

So sad

 Sincerely, 
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From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 6:02:07 AM
Subject: Re: logout and back button


I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue. If
you design your web apps properly you will be checking for a valid
authenticated session every time a request is made. Also you'll properly
control caching to enable log out really means log out.


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:


 i think this is a major issue that adobe needs to consider.

 I had this challenge a while ago and after searching the web for months, i
 did
 not see any thing tangible to use across all explorers. I had to consider
 learning other programming languages, just because of the logout bud.

 If Adobe has a solution for this, then they should speak up and silence all
 doubts.

  Sincerely,
 Chuka I.W. Anene




 
 From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:33:19 AM
 Subject: Re: logout and back button


 On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
  however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get
 back
  into the last page in the software.

 On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a redirection
 to
 the login page.
 This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank you
 for
 using blah blah ltd.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Anene Isioma Wealth

Yeah, but this is not a complete solution for ending session variables.

If other programming languages can effectively end session variables, i still 
dont know what MX's problem is.

 Sincerely, 
Chuka I.W. Anene
Chief Software Eng./CEO
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From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 1:12:32 AM
Subject: Re: logout and back button


On Monday 12 Jul 2010 14:02:07 Michael Grant wrote:
 I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue.

This is an important point; by pressing 'back' the user can't see anything 
they couldn't see before, and maintain a permanent record of if they wanted to 
(by saving the page, for instance).
If you allow non-logged in users to perform actions that they shouldn't be 
allowed to, then you have a bigger problem than your log out work flow.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Grant

No no. It's not a ColdFusion (or Cold Fusion) issue. If *the designer* of an
application does his/her job correctly this isn't an issue at all. The onus
is on the developer, not the language.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Thanks for the correction.
 That was what i meant actually, after all, Adobe only acquired Coldfusion
 MX.

 So sad that over the years, they are still silent about it...

 So sad

  Sincerely,
 Chuka I.W. Anene
 Chief Software Eng./CEO




 
 From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 6:02:07 AM
 Subject: Re: logout and back button


 I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue. If
 you design your web apps properly you will be checking for a valid
 authenticated session every time a request is made. Also you'll properly
 control caching to enable log out really means log out.


 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
 anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  i think this is a major issue that adobe needs to consider.
 
  I had this challenge a while ago and after searching the web for months,
 i
  did
  not see any thing tangible to use across all explorers. I had to consider
  learning other programming languages, just because of the logout bud.
 
  If Adobe has a solution for this, then they should speak up and silence
 all
  doubts.
 
   Sincerely,
  Chuka I.W. Anene
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
  To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
  Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:33:19 AM
  Subject: Re: logout and back button
 
 
  On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
   however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get
  back
   into the last page in the software.
 
  On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a
 redirection
  to
  the login page.
  This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank
 you
  for
  using blah blah ltd.
 
  --
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  Helping to appropriately industrialize professional cross-platform
  efficient
  patterns as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08
 
  
 
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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Anene Isioma Wealth

which developer, we or the platform developer, Macromedia?

 Sincerely, 
Chuka I.W. Anene
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From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 6:50:26 AM
Subject: Re: logout and back button


No no. It's not a ColdFusion (or Cold Fusion) issue. If *the designer* of an
application does his/her job correctly this isn't an issue at all. The onus
is on the developer, not the language.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Thanks for the correction.
 That was what i meant actually, after all, Adobe only acquired Coldfusion
 MX.

 So sad that over the years, they are still silent about it...

 So sad

  Sincerely,
 Chuka I.W. Anene
 Chief Software Eng./CEO




 
 From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 6:02:07 AM
 Subject: Re: logout and back button


 I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue. If
 you design your web apps properly you will be checking for a valid
 authenticated session every time a request is made. Also you'll properly
 control caching to enable log out really means log out.


 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
 anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  i think this is a major issue that adobe needs to consider.
 
  I had this challenge a while ago and after searching the web for months,
 i
  did
  not see any thing tangible to use across all explorers. I had to consider
  learning other programming languages, just because of the logout bud.
 
  If Adobe has a solution for this, then they should speak up and silence
 all
  doubts.
 
   Sincerely,
  Chuka I.W. Anene
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
  To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
  Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:33:19 AM
  Subject: Re: logout and back button
 
 
  On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
   however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get
  back
   into the last page in the software.
 
  On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a
 redirection
  to
  the login page.
  This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank
 you
  for
  using blah blah ltd.
 
  --
  Tom Chiverton
  Helping to appropriately industrialize professional cross-platform
  efficient
  patterns as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08
 
  
 
  This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
 
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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Dave Watts

 which developer, we or the platform developer, Macromedia?

You. You destroy the session variables, you control caching, etc. All you.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Michael Grant

You. You do it all. It's easy peasy to clear a session and stop page
caching.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:


 which developer, we or the platform developer, Macromedia?

  Sincerely,
 Chuka I.W. Anene
 Chief Software Eng./CEO
 Quorium Solutions
 www.quorium.org
 07029609185,07032696113




 
 From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 6:50:26 AM
 Subject: Re: logout and back button


 No no. It's not a ColdFusion (or Cold Fusion) issue. If *the designer* of
 an
 application does his/her job correctly this isn't an issue at all. The onus
 is on the developer, not the language.

 On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
 anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
  Thanks for the correction.
  That was what i meant actually, after all, Adobe only acquired Coldfusion
  MX.
 
  So sad that over the years, they are still silent about it...
 
  So sad
 
   Sincerely,
  Chuka I.W. Anene
  Chief Software Eng./CEO
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Michael Grant mgr...@modus.bz
  To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
  Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 6:02:07 AM
  Subject: Re: logout and back button
 
 
  I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue.
 If
  you design your web apps properly you will be checking for a valid
  authenticated session every time a request is made. Also you'll properly
  control caching to enable log out really means log out.
 
 
  On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
  anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  
   i think this is a major issue that adobe needs to consider.
  
   I had this challenge a while ago and after searching the web for
 months,
  i
   did
   not see any thing tangible to use across all explorers. I had to
 consider
   learning other programming languages, just because of the logout bud.
  
   If Adobe has a solution for this, then they should speak up and silence
  all
   doubts.
  
Sincerely,
   Chuka I.W. Anene
  
  
  
  
   
   From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
   To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
   Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:33:19 AM
   Subject: Re: logout and back button
  
  
   On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get
   back
into the last page in the software.
  
   On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a
  redirection
   to
   the login page.
   This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank
  you
   for
   using blah blah ltd.
  
   --
   Tom Chiverton
   Helping to appropriately industrialize professional cross-platform
   efficient
   patterns as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08
  
   
  
   This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
  
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   Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address
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  A
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   members is available for inspection at the registered office together
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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-14 Thread Ian Skinner

  On 7/14/2010 6:59 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth wrote:
 which developer, we or the platform developer, Macromedia?

Or the browser developers.

The problem you are overlooking is that this has nothing to do with the 
server or ColdFusion (no matter how it is spelled).  The user is not 
getting a new page from the server that is showing something from the 
recently killed session.  They are getting the a page they already 
viewed that their browser has stored on their machine.

We, as developers, can only politely ask the browser not to do this.  
But sometimes the browser, or the way the user has configured their 
browser, may not honor the request.

There is no server language in the world that can do it differently or 
better.  Adobe nee Macromedia nee Allaire have not developed any browser 
that of which I am aware.




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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-13 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Monday 12 Jul 2010 14:02:07 Michael Grant wrote:
 I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue.

This is an important point; by pressing 'back' the user can't see anything 
they couldn't see before, and maintain a permanent record of if they wanted to 
(by saving the page, for instance).
If you allow non-logged in users to perform actions that they shouldn't be 
allowed to, then you have a bigger problem than your log out work flow.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-12 Thread Tom Chiverton

On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
 however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get back
 into the last page in the software.

On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a redirection to 
the login page.
This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank you for 
using blah blah ltd.

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-12 Thread Anene Isioma Wealth

i think this is a major issue that adobe needs to consider.

I had this challenge a while ago and after searching the web for months, i did 
not see any thing tangible to use across all explorers. I had to consider 
learning other programming languages, just because of the logout bud.

If Adobe has a solution for this, then they should speak up and silence all 
doubts.

 Sincerely, 
Chuka I.W. Anene





From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
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Subject: Re: logout and back button


On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
 however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get back
 into the last page in the software.

On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a redirection to 
the login page.
This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank you for 
using blah blah ltd.

-- 
Tom Chiverton
Helping to appropriately industrialize professional cross-platform efficient 
patterns as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08



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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-12 Thread Michael Grant

I don't think this is an Adobe issue. It's an application design issue. If
you design your web apps properly you will be checking for a valid
authenticated session every time a request is made. Also you'll properly
control caching to enable log out really means log out.


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Anene Isioma Wealth 
anene.quor...@yahoo.com wrote:


 i think this is a major issue that adobe needs to consider.

 I had this challenge a while ago and after searching the web for months, i
 did
 not see any thing tangible to use across all explorers. I had to consider
 learning other programming languages, just because of the logout bud.

 If Adobe has a solution for this, then they should speak up and silence all
 doubts.

  Sincerely,
 Chuka I.W. Anene




 
 From: Tom Chiverton tom.chiver...@halliwells.com
 To: cf-talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 10:33:19 AM
 Subject: Re: logout and back button


 On Saturday 10 Jul 2010 18:34:50 you wrote:
  however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get
 back
  into the last page in the software.

 On the logout action page, redirect them to a page that does a redirection
 to
 the login page.
 This is commonly seen as a 'logout confirmation' page that says thank you
 for
 using blah blah ltd.

 --
 Tom Chiverton
 Helping to appropriately industrialize professional cross-platform
 efficient
 patterns as part of the IT team of the year 2010, '09 and '08

 

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logout and back button

2010-07-10 Thread Richard White

hi,

i am storing user data in the session scope. when the user logs out it runs a 
structclear(session) and a cflocation back to the login page. 

in the application.cfc onrequeststart function it checks if the user 
information exists in the session and if not runs a cflocation back to the 
login page. 

however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and get back into 
the last page in the software.

i have read a few posts about this situation but havent found a suitable 
solution yet, how do you guys handle this situation?

thanks 

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-10 Thread Al Musella, DPM

http://www.hunlock.com/blogs/Mastering_The_Back_Button_With_Javascripthttp://www.hunlock.com/blogs/Mastering_The_Back_Button_With_Javascript
 



At 01:34 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:

hi,

i am storing user data in the session scope. when the user logs out 
it runs a structclear(session) and a cflocation back to the login page.

in the application.cfc onrequeststart function it checks if the user 
information exists in the session and if not runs a cflocation back 
to the login page.

however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and 
get back into the last page in the software.

i have read a few posts about this situation but havent found a 
suitable solution yet, how do you guys handle this situation?

thanks



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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-10 Thread Richard White

yes i have scanned alot of the web, and also seen this post although this code 
does not work. probably out of date as its 3 years old. is this what you use?

how do you guys handle this situation?





 http://www.hunlock.
 com/blogs/Mastering_The_Back_Button_With_Javascripthttp://www.hunlock.
 com/blogs/Mastering_The_Back_Button_With_Javascript 
 
 
 
 At 01:34 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
 
 hi,
 
 i am storing user data in the session scope. when the user logs out 
 it runs a structclear(session) and a cflocation back to the login 
 page.
 
 in the application.cfc onrequeststart function it checks if the user 
 
 information exists in the session and if not runs a cflocation back 
 to the login page.
 
 however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and 
 get back into the last page in the software.
 
 i have read a few posts about this situation but havent found a 
 suitable solution yet, how do you guys handle this situation?
 
 thanks
 


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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-10 Thread Michael Grant

no-cache would probably be the easiest.



On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote:


 yes i have scanned alot of the web, and also seen this post although this
 code does not work. probably out of date as its 3 years old. is this what
 you use?

 how do you guys handle this situation?





  http://www.hunlock.
  com/blogs/Mastering_The_Back_Button_With_Javascripthttp://www.hunlock.
  com/blogs/Mastering_The_Back_Button_With_Javascript
 
 
 
  At 01:34 PM 7/10/2010, you wrote:
 
  hi,
  
  i am storing user data in the session scope. when the user logs out
  it runs a structclear(session) and a cflocation back to the login
  page.
  
  in the application.cfc onrequeststart function it checks if the user
 
  information exists in the session and if not runs a cflocation back
  to the login page.
  
  however after logging out, i am able to click the back button and
  get back into the last page in the software.
  
  i have read a few posts about this situation but havent found a
  suitable solution yet, how do you guys handle this situation?
  
  thanks
 


 

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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-10 Thread Richard White

thanks, getting there, the following works for safari and firefox but doesnt 
work for ie:

cfheader name=cache-control  value=no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate
cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
cfheader name=expires value=#getHttpTimeString(now())#

META HTTP-EQUIV=CACHE-CONTROL CONTENT=NO-CACHE
META HTTP-EQUIV=EXPIRES CONTENT=01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT
META HTTP-EQUIV=PRAGMA CONTENT=NO-CACHE



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Re: logout and back button

2010-07-10 Thread Michael Grant

This is what I use and it always works for me.

cfheader name=expires value=#now()#
cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
cfheader name=cache-control value=no-cache, no-store, must-revalidate



On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Richard White rich...@j7is.co.uk wrote:


 thanks, getting there, the following works for safari and firefox but
 doesnt work for ie:

 cfheader name=cache-control  value=no-cache, no-store,
 must-revalidate
 cfheader name=pragma value=no-cache
 cfheader name=expires value=#getHttpTimeString(now())#

 META HTTP-EQUIV=CACHE-CONTROL CONTENT=NO-CACHE
 META HTTP-EQUIV=EXPIRES CONTENT=01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT
 META HTTP-EQUIV=PRAGMA CONTENT=NO-CACHE



 

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