re: SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
Sure, Charlie...no problem. I've said about all I have to say anyway. I don't subscribe to CF-Community...I have a hard enough time getting through all the email I get now. I'm just concerned about Mike...I suspect, based on his comments to the list now and in the past, that he doesn't like bringing up stuff like this and discussing. I just thought I'd carry his banner for awhile. I've received great benefit from the list and would like to see Mike (and others, if you've got a donate button let me know!) benefit, too. I would have that he's suffering financially to help me prosper... Some good ideas have been discussed...so I'll shut up now. Just don't forget, everyone, to *voluntarily* donate! Rick From: Charlie Griefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text? Rick...couple of points 1) can we move this to cf-community? 2) did Mike even say he is considering charging for the list? You seem to be fighting for something that the list owner isn't even considering implementing. 3) can we move this to cf-community? On 4/21/05, Rick Faircloth wrote: Is your unwillingness to pay a subscription based on the fact that you feel like you don't benefit from the list? Or that you give more to the list than you take? I can understand someone's reluctance to pay if really all they do is give answers to others and don't get answers to questions. But if you ever get answers you really need why wouldn't you be willing to help pay for the work that's done to bring you those answers? And if there are so many other resources that are as good as this one, then why participate in this one? I would have to cut something out... takes too long to go through all the mail! And...for info's sake...what other resources can you point out that I could use that are as rich with information, convenient, and have such good participation? Just trying to understand your perspective Rick From: Aaron Rouse Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:17 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text? There are plenty of free sources of information out there that this very list offers. There is no way I'd pay to subscribe to a mailing list. Now if I were to find that I was greatly benifiting from it, I would make a donation to whoever maintained it. I have done donations in the past to things that offered me free help that I in turn benifited from in my work. Now if a place put in advertisement links for something I typed then I might think twice about putting postings there. I am on a car forum that does this and rarely post on it these days but my rare postings have nothing to do with their advertisements. On 4/20/05, Rick Faircloth wrote: I would not pay a subscription to a list I think you might change your mind if all lists gave the choice of buying a subscription or acceptads and those were the only ones around. That's like saying to Mike...hey, I'm perfectly willing to participate and benefit from your work, but not if you're going to benefit... ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203855 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
re: SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
The point is that you *do* find this list a better source of information and assistance than you do other resources...you stated that it was more centralized...meaning you can get what you need easier and quicker...if it weren't of benefit to you, you wouldn't use it. Rick From: Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 3:09 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text? Did you not see the word enough Perhaps you are reading a little too far into the words I pick. Or perhaps you can not understand that I feel I would need to gain a certain amount out of something that normally can be found free to then justify paying for it. Anything offered on this list can be found elsewhere, maybe not in one centralized spot but still elsewhere. To go and charge for use of the list would very likely de-centralize information here since some would rather not pay. At that point what exactly would you be paying for? I may not contribute a lot to this list but I do know I contribute more than I ask of it. So really it would come down to if I paid to be here, I would be paying to answer a few questions here and there. So everyone who thinks it would be fine to pay admission for this list, how much have you donated over the years of using it? On 4/21/05, Larry Lyons wrote: Is your unwillingness to pay a subscription based on the fact that you feel like you don't benefit from the list? Or that you give more to the list than you take? I do not feel I benifit enough from this list to warrant paying to be on it. Matter of fact I am not 100% sure I have benifited from this list in quite sometime. I know the last couple of questions I posted I never got a complete answer from the list, and if I was paying to be on this list then I would start to get irritated if the answers were no better than I could get elsewhere or if they were lesser which is the case at times. If you do not think you're benefitting from this list then why continue to subscribe? I am sure that it would be no great disaster for the rest of us. The thing is that its also a two way street, you need to contribute as well as consume. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203886 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: wtf are those advertizing links in the text?
How much have you donated to be on this list over the entire time you have been on it? I randomly get on this list to help people with quick questions more than anything else. I rarely post questions to it. Clearly it is not 100% centralized or I would not maintain a presense in multiple other places. My point on centralization is that if it were to all the sudden cost money to be here, is it all the sudden would drive people away. On 4/21/05, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is that you *do* find this list a better source of information and assistance than you do other resources...you stated that it was more centralized...meaning you can get what you need easier and quicker...if it weren't of benefit to you, you wouldn't use it. Rick ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:203889 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
