[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Scott, I'm sure we can host a salesman anonymous meeting at WebDU and you can join the group and say Hi, My name is Scott... and I'm a salesman once you've done it you'll feel much better I'm sure. Afterwards you can get out your diamond plated company credit card and we will give you free rein to tell us the wonders of MS whilst it stays on the bar - I'll be good to give you hours and hours of attentive listening ;-) Grant On Jan 30, 9:12 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, the old MS buys Adobe rumour. I'm no legal eagle, but I'd wager that the Department Of Justice and the Consent Decree would have a thing or two to say about that idea, so fear not Peter :0 On 1/30/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was for a time concerned about Microsoft acquiring Macromedia (MM). By then MM had done some smart things with Flash, moved CF to the J2EE platform, etc. But Microsoft have, even since Allaire days, been if not a competitor then at least MM was an acquisition target. All of us old-timers remember the threat year after year (Microsoft acquires Allaire/MM etc). I've been with Allaire, MM and now Adobe for over 11.5 years now (or close enough to it). The Adobe acquisition came out of the blue. And I hated the idea. Am still not convinced (entirely). MM made great guns in involving the developer and end-user community in the pushing forward of the new tech. So far Adobe (with a lot of MM employees) are doing OK. I mean look at the LABS site - a great initiative started by MM. Microsoft is more jam it down your throat. Take it or leave it. Dreamweaver 8 and FlexBuilder 2 are now my primary IDE's. Microsoft's effort take up too much space, too much OS control, and too damn slow. I have enormous respect for ScottyB, yes he is now employed by the enemy, but as far as pushing the conversation to a degree that things will actually happen - best job ever. Microsoft and Adobe are now true competitors in almost every space bar the OS (operating system). Both companies employ some of the smartest and dedicated people on the planet. However they should remain competitors. My heart would stop beating if M$ ever acquired Adobe. If that happens - find a buyer for ColdFusion alone (not easy I realise). -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Ways To Protect CF Code
Hi, I have built an industry wide application in cf where some of the larger clients are wanting the application to reside on their own servers within their wide area network rather than accessing the site I have hosted on an external isp my main concern is that what steps can I take to protect the intellectual property of my code so that they cannot have another cf developer access the version running on their own server and then perform changes etc to the code for customised improvements to the base system I have built. Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: http://www.websitesolutions.com.au/ www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au http://www.australianaccommodation.com/ www.AustralianAccommodation.com http://www.accommodationnewzealand.com/ www.AccommodationNewZealand.com http://www.hospitalitypurchasing.net/ www.HospitalityPurchasing.net http://www.samaris.net/ www.Samaris.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
Deploy it as a J2EE application. This is restricted to Enterprise level ColdFusion but a perfect solution. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have built an industry wide application in cf where some of the larger clients are wanting the application to reside on their own servers within their wide area network rather than accessing the site I have hosted on an external isp my main concern is that what steps can I take to protect the intellectual property of my code so that they cannot have another cf developer access the version running on their own server and then perform changes etc to the code for customised improvements to the base system I have built. Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
Scott, I'm sure we can host a salesman anonymous meeting at WebDU and you can join the group and say Hi, My name is Scott... and I'm a salesman once you've done it you'll feel much better I'm sure. Afterwards you can get out your diamond plated company credit card and we will give you free rein to tell us the wonders of MS whilst it stays on the bar - I'll be good to give you hours and hours of attentive listening ;-) Har! I'd buy THAT for a dollar! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
does the old encrypted page feature still exist? Also put in your contract that your the only one allowed to customize it etc. M@ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
You would deploy the application in it's entirety as a J2EE application. ColdFusion compiles the code to Java as either an EAR or WAR file which can then be deployed on a J2EE server (like JRun 4 which CF ships with). This compiled code is, to my knowledge, not backward compilable. Just ensure you keep your source code safe. It is surprisingly easy to do - the DEV edition of ColdFusion (6.x and above) allow you to do this for you to try. However, downside, I think you need the Enterprise level of CF (ie - not Standard/Pro) to deploy a J2EE CF application. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told the encrypt facility can easily be de cripted by savy developers also putting it in the contract is one thing proving that they are making code changes and enhancements is another not as if I am there able to access their system Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code does the old encrypted page feature still exist? Also put in your contract that your the only one allowed to customize it etc. M@ -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
Jermey, This is dead easy and you don't need any expensive infrastrucutre you don't already have. I am doing this at the moment with corporate forms (purchase requests, leave forms, etc) Acrobat Pro v8 comes with LiveCycle Forms Designer (now just Acrobat Designer). With this you can make the actual form. This form can include calcuations using either JavaScript of the built in FormCalc, which should work for most stuff. You can then put a 'Submit' button on the form. When the user clicks that, it converts the entire form into an XML file and emails it to where ever you like. So from there you could just have CF poll a mailbox and suck the XML into a DB. Or you can do it manually, there is built in functionality to combine multiple form submission XML files into a single Exel spreadsheet, then you could bulk inport the spreadsheet. Good thing about this is you can actually send the form to people outside the company and it will still work, they don't have to access the Intranet or Company website. Just download Acrobat 8 Pro and do the first few Designer form tutorials under help and you will be away. Cheers, Barry On Jan 31, 3:13 pm, cfgroupie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heya! I got an interesting question for you guys. Why is the earth round.? That has confused me for years. Okay now the real question. I'm about to start a new project which is going to require us to send a excel spread sheet or an Adobe Acrobat file in which it has a form so they can fill out. I would like to go down the path of acrobat for the obvious reasons, but has anyone actually created a form in acrobat that posts to a coldfusion site to insert data? If so can you point me to the right documentation to read about how to do this. Also if anyone knows does acrobat allow calculations of the form fields? I think it would but again I'm assuming at the moment. Jeremy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
So I can write cf applications and have it run on a j2ee server rather than a cf server. Is this also more cost efficient for the client to purchase a j2ee server rather than cf Clearly I need to investigate this and learn all about it Any suggested resources to learn the most about how all this side of things works being able to deploy application as you have indicated Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code You would deploy the application in it's entirety as a J2EE application. ColdFusion compiles the code to Java as either an EAR or WAR file which can then be deployed on a J2EE server (like JRun 4 which CF ships with). This compiled code is, to my knowledge, not backward compilable. Just ensure you keep your source code safe. It is surprisingly easy to do - the DEV edition of ColdFusion (6.x and above) allow you to do this for you to try. However, downside, I think you need the Enterprise level of CF (ie - not Standard/Pro) to deploy a J2EE CF application. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told the encrypt facility can easily be de cripted by savy developers also putting it in the contract is one thing proving that they are making code changes and enhancements is another not as if I am there able to access their system Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code does the old encrypted page feature still exist? Also put in your contract that your the only one allowed to customize it etc. M@ -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
Not quite. It is compiled CFML to Java code - you still need CF Enterprise to understand and execute your application. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I can write cf applications and have it run on a j2ee server rather than a cf server. Is this also more cost efficient for the client to purchase a j2ee server rather than cf Clearly I need to investigate this and learn all about it Any suggested resources to learn the most about how all this side of things works being able to deploy application as you have indicated Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code You would deploy the application in it's entirety as a J2EE application. ColdFusion compiles the code to Java as either an EAR or WAR file which can then be deployed on a J2EE server (like JRun 4 which CF ships with). This compiled code is, to my knowledge, not backward compilable. Just ensure you keep your source code safe. It is surprisingly easy to do - the DEV edition of ColdFusion (6.x and above) allow you to do this for you to try. However, downside, I think you need the Enterprise level of CF (ie - not Standard/Pro) to deploy a J2EE CF application. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told the encrypt facility can easily be de cripted by savy developers also putting it in the contract is one thing proving that they are making code changes and enhancements is another not as if I am there able to access their system Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code does the old encrypted page feature still exist? Also put in your contract that your the only one allowed to customize it etc. M@ -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
So the compiled code is what is loaded onto the clients servers that have cf enterprise and j2ee running rather than loading the actual cf written code onto their server Any suggestions on where best I can get up to speed on all this Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 10:17 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code Not quite. It is compiled CFML to Java code - you still need CF Enterprise to understand and execute your application. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I can write cf applications and have it run on a j2ee server rather than a cf server. Is this also more cost efficient for the client to purchase a j2ee server rather than cf Clearly I need to investigate this and learn all about it Any suggested resources to learn the most about how all this side of things works being able to deploy application as you have indicated Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:56 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code You would deploy the application in it's entirety as a J2EE application. ColdFusion compiles the code to Java as either an EAR or WAR file which can then be deployed on a J2EE server (like JRun 4 which CF ships with). This compiled code is, to my knowledge, not backward compilable. Just ensure you keep your source code safe. It is surprisingly easy to do - the DEV edition of ColdFusion (6.x and above) allow you to do this for you to try. However, downside, I think you need the Enterprise level of CF (ie - not Standard/Pro) to deploy a J2EE CF application. On 31/01/07, claude raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been told the encrypt facility can easily be de cripted by savy developers also putting it in the contract is one thing proving that they are making code changes and enhancements is another not as if I am there able to access their system Kind Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ(Acc.); B.Hotel Mngt. Mobile: 0414 228 948 Phone: 07 5538 5961 Fax: 07 3319 6444 Websites: www.WebsiteSolutions.com.au www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.AccommodationNewZealand.com www.HospitalityPurchasing.net www.Samaris.net From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M@ Bourke Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2007 8:42 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code does the old encrypted page feature still exist? Also put in your contract that your the only one allowed to customize it etc. M@ -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Ways To Protect CF Code
Any suggestions on where best I can get up to speed on all this www.Coldfusion.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Acrobat
Well, still another alternative to LiveCycle (which may be too much for som) is the XPAAJ (XML/PDF Access API for Java) API that Adobe has created and sells, but is now free to licensed CF users. Ben discusses it and offers some sample code at this blog entry: http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/7/27/cf_pdfform Those really interested in this should also check out the 67 comments. I'm sure there are valuable nuggets in there. /Charlie http://www.carehart.org/blog/ -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:01 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Acrobat Ok, So without the expense of LiveCycle. Acrobat 8 and Coldfusion 8 will do this, trust me. You will just have to wait. Regards Dale Fraser --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
LoL! :) I'm not just a bar tab you know, I have feelings... why do you always treat me like some bar tab hussy :) hehehe On 1/31/07, Grant Straker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott, I'm sure we can host a salesman anonymous meeting at WebDU and you can join the group and say Hi, My name is Scott... and I'm a salesman once you've done it you'll feel much better I'm sure. Afterwards you can get out your diamond plated company credit card and we will give you free rein to tell us the wonders of MS whilst it stays on the bar - I'll be good to give you hours and hours of attentive listening ;-) Grant On Jan 30, 9:12 pm, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, the old MS buys Adobe rumour. I'm no legal eagle, but I'd wager that the Department Of Justice and the Consent Decree would have a thing or two to say about that idea, so fear not Peter :0 On 1/30/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was for a time concerned about Microsoft acquiring Macromedia (MM). By then MM had done some smart things with Flash, moved CF to the J2EE platform, etc. But Microsoft have, even since Allaire days, been if not a competitor then at least MM was an acquisition target. All of us old-timers remember the threat year after year (Microsoft acquires Allaire/MM etc). I've been with Allaire, MM and now Adobe for over 11.5 years now (or close enough to it). The Adobe acquisition came out of the blue. And I hated the idea. Am still not convinced (entirely). MM made great guns in involving the developer and end-user community in the pushing forward of the new tech. So far Adobe (with a lot of MM employees) are doing OK. I mean look at the LABS site - a great initiative started by MM. Microsoft is more jam it down your throat. Take it or leave it. Dreamweaver 8 and FlexBuilder 2 are now my primary IDE's. Microsoft's effort take up too much space, too much OS control, and too damn slow. I have enormous respect for ScottyB, yes he is now employed by the enemy, but as far as pushing the conversation to a degree that things will actually happen - best job ever. Microsoft and Adobe are now true competitors in almost every space bar the OS (operating system). Both companies employ some of the smartest and dedicated people on the planet. However they should remain competitors. My heart would stop beating if M$ ever acquired Adobe. If that happens - find a buyer for ColdFusion alone (not easy I realise). -- Regards, Scott Barneshttp://www.mossyblog.com -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion 8 Beta
also check out http://www.forta.com/blog/index.cfm/2007/1/22/Anyone-Want-To-Beta-Test-Scorpio from a week or so ago On Jan 31, 5:21 pm, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Buntel recently blogged about where to go to get on the beta. It is only Alpha at the moment. Ray had special permission to run Scorpio - I guess Ben Forta could run it to. For the rest of us a big no no. Scorpio Beta Application is here! We're finally ready to accept applications from folks interested in participating in the Scorpio Beta. Please go tohttps://prerelease.adobe.com/callout/apply.html?callid={E9F64ADB-DADA-485E-BFFE-60E0D783EBEF} to apply. You will see a link that says Join Adobe Prerelease Program Now - follow that and the directions. A word of warning; you will need to complete a survey that is very design-centric first (the 'your job' section has options like 'film maker' and 'fashion designer' for instance). I don't doubt that many of you are fashionable, but few are likely actual fashion designers. Fear not, following will be the actual Scorpio survey in which you'll get to discuss your deep love of CFCs and RDBMSs. We'll notify applicants soon about next steps. And, no, this does not mean that I'm going to tell you when we're shipping, or even when the Beta is going to be out... :) Enjoy! Tim --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
bar tabs have no feelings, and you know if I was in oz, I'd be abusing you Mr Bar Tab --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and RAM
The most I ever got out of standard was 1280M. That was on a computer with 4GB of RAM. The main issue is that the block of RAM that it uses needs to be contiguous, that is, it needs a clean block of RAM that nothing else is using. If something is (and you've used the xmx=xms rule), CF will not start and you will need to modify the JVM config manally. Looking up coldfusion jvm xmx xms in [your favourite search engine] should return some useful results. Cheers Joel Scott Thornton wrote: Hi, Is it possible to make CF MX 6.1 standard use more than approx 500meg RAM? (fusion reactor reports 505 meg.. I suspect it uses 512) Is it wise to do so? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and RAM
the Most RAM J2ee will use is 2gb turn up the ram a bit but never max it out, leave it at least 1/3 below your max ram. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Anyone looking for work in ColdFusion?
If anyone is looking for work in ColdFusion, you should check out this link: http://www.michaelpage.com.au/job-detail/ref/A808410.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Anyone looking for work in ColdFusion?
[cough] ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... [cough] On 2/1/07, bananasontoast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is looking for work in ColdFusion, you should check out this link: http://www.michaelpage.com.au/job-detail/ref/A808410.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Anyone looking for work in ColdFusion?
My bad, I didn't notice that group until afterwards. Apologies guys. On Feb 1, 2:29 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [cough] ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... [cough] On 2/1/07, bananasontoast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is looking for work in ColdFusion, you should check out this link: http://www.michaelpage.com.au/job-detail/ref/A808410.html- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Anyone looking for work in ColdFusion?
Houeshold name in terms of both media and online Speling not a priorety... On 01/02/07, bananasontoast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is looking for work in ColdFusion, you should check out this link: http://www.michaelpage.com.au/job-detail/ref/A808410.html -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] [WOT] Vista launches
http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?comicID=1530 :D :D :D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---