[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Peter Tilbrook 

The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.

> I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading the docs,
> I still missed this so I thought I would share.

> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser

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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Dale Fraser 

Why?

Aren't they the same

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com



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The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.

> I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading the
docs,
> I still missed this so I thought I would share.

> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser




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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Scott 

Peter,

Labs.adobe.com clearly says Coldfusion beta

If it is a release candidate then Adobe should say so:-) But of course the
pre release program may say different:-)



Andrew Scott
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The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.

> I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading the
docs,
> I still missed this so I thought I would share.

> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser


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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Peter Tilbrook 

No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
shipping version (soon pretty please).

On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> Aren't they the same
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Peter Tilbrook
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
>
>
> The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
>
> > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading the
> docs,
> > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
>
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
>
>
>
>
> >
>


-- 
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ColdGen Internet Solutions
President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

http://www.coldgen.com/
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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Dale Fraser 

Is that right.

As they release the RC and Beta at the same time, I thought that they were
the same, I'm pretty sure they are.

I'm pretty sure I read Ben Forta comment just before the release that he
just installed the latest version which will be release as Public Beta.

Regards
Dale Fraser

http://dalefraser.blogspot.com



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No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
shipping version (soon pretty please).

On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Why?
>
> Aren't they the same
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Peter Tilbrook
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
>
>
> The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
>
> > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading the
> docs,
> > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
>
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
>
>
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Peter Tilbrook
ColdGen Internet Solutions
President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

http://www.coldgen.com/
http://www.actcfug.com/

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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Peter Tilbrook 

No. For Scorpio they had Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2, then RC (or
RC 1). Expect even more stuff in the final product release. It has
gotten better with each release.

NB: CFMENU is sl compared to the AJAX menus Dreamweaver CS3
offers - hope they fix that.

On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Is that right.
>
> As they release the RC and Beta at the same time, I thought that they were
> the same, I'm pretty sure they are.
>
> I'm pretty sure I read Ben Forta comment just before the release that he
> just installed the latest version which will be release as Public Beta.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Peter Tilbrook
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 6:30 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
>
>
> No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
> shipping version (soon pretty please).
>
> On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Why?
> >
> > Aren't they the same
> >
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> >
> >
> > The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
> >
> > > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading the
> > docs,
> > > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
> >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Dale Fraser
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Peter Tilbrook
> ColdGen Internet Solutions
> President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> PO Box 2247
> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> AUSTRALIA
>
> http://www.coldgen.com/
> http://www.actcfug.com/
>
> Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
> Mob: +61-0432-897-437
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General
>
>
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Peter Tilbrook
ColdGen Internet Solutions
President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
PO Box 2247
Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
AUSTRALIA

http://www.coldgen.com/
http://www.actcfug.com/

Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Scott 
Peter,

The RC as you put it, is on the labs.adobe.com as Public Beta. So if there
is a different version named RC the public is not privelage to know about
it.


On 7/4/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> No. For Scorpio they had Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2, then RC (or
> RC 1). Expect even more stuff in the final product release. It has
> gotten better with each release.
>
> NB: CFMENU is sl compared to the AJAX menus Dreamweaver CS3
> offers - hope they fix that.
>
> On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Is that right.
> >
> > As they release the RC and Beta at the same time, I thought that they
> were
> > the same, I'm pretty sure they are.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I read Ben Forta comment just before the release that he
> > just installed the latest version which will be release as Public Beta.
> >
> > Regards
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 6:30 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> >
> >
> > No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
> > shipping version (soon pretty please).
> >
> > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Why?
> > >
> > > Aren't they the same
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Dale Fraser
> > >
> > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > >
> > >
> > > The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
> > >
> > > > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading
> the
> > > docs,
> > > > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
> > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Dale Fraser
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Tilbrook
> > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > PO Box 2247
> > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > http://www.actcfug.com/
> >
> > Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
> > Mob: +61-0432-897-437
> >
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Peter Tilbrook
> ColdGen Internet Solutions
> President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> PO Box 2247
> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> AUSTRALIA
>
> http://www.coldgen.com/
> http://www.actcfug.com/
>
> Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
> Mob: +61-0432-897-437
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General
>
> >
>


-- 



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[cfaussie] Re: VOT: Where Is AS

2007-07-04 Thread Scott Barnes 
or...

A Survey measure's the public's satisfaction with its ignorance :P heheh
(thats for all Surveys heh)



On 7/2/07, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> another way to look at it is that 92% of the respondents wish him no
> (physical) harm.
>
>
> whether the other 8% know him personally is unclear...
>
>
>
> On 7/2/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Ok,
> >
> >
> >
> > So he went and commented, so spoilt my fun, but here's what people
> > thought or hoped might have happened.
> >
> >
> >
> > He has taken a vowel of silence
> >
> >  20.0%
> >
> >  He fell in a well and died
> >
> >  4.0%
> >
> >  He got hit by a car and died in a fire
> >
> >  4.0%
> >
> >  A Microsoft Vista Bug ate him.
> >
> >  16.0%
> >
> >  Geoff Bowers Banned Him
> >
> >  32.0%
> >
> >  He was consumed by the Request Scope
> >
> >  24.0%
> >
> >
> >
> > Which makes 52% of people who thought he either should go quiet or be
> > banned, just my interpretation of the stats J. Personally, I most guys
> > here, thought the whole thing was entertaining.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Dale Fraser
> >
> >
> >
> > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
> > Behalf Of *AJ Mercer
> > *Sent:* Friday, 29 June 2007 11:41 PM
> > *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: VOT: Where Is AS
> >
> >
> >
> > You think *that* will be the last word on the subject??
> >
> > On 6/29/07, *Scott Barnes* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > As the farmer once said to the pig..
> >
> >
> >
> > "That'll do pig.. that'll do..."
> >
> >
> >
> > I think Andrew got the point today and how about we nod, smile and move
> > forward - end the humiliation that which is Andrews and let it be.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/29/07, *Andrew Scott* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  I am here
> >
> >
> >
> > But let me say this.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1) Not banned
> >
> > 2) No wells to fall into
> >
> > 3) Can't be consumed by something that I will not got near
> >
> > 4) No I have been actively voicing in another area.
> >
> > 5) Nope sorry no cars hit me either...
> >
> > 6) Now this I'll agree too, because its almost funny that I have just
> > not long finished repairing the fact that Vista ate my HD. let me explain, a
> > power outage / brown out accoured during a HD dedrag and Vista said sorry
> > file is corrupt or directory doesn't exist...
> >
> >
> >
> > So my vote is #6.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/29/07, *Peter Tilbrook* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sorry! If you get a "request scope" vote - that was me :)
> >
> > --
> > Peter Tilbrook
> > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > PO Box 2247
> > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > http://www.actcfug.com/
> >
> > Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
> > Mob: +61-0432-897-437
> >
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> >
> >
> > www.aegeon.com.au
> > Phone: +613  8676 4223
> > Mobile: 0404 998 273
> >
> >
> > http://www.mossyblog.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > If you are not living on the edge,
> > You are taking up too much space.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] BMUG User group meeting next monday

2007-07-04 Thread Mike Kear 

The first meeting of the CF User Group in Western Sydney is going to
be held in Penrith next Monday, starting at 6pm.

I hope all of you who expressed interest in being in such a group will
be able to make it.   Also anyone who lives and/or works in the
Western Sydney area who hasn't expresed interest so far,  we'd love to
see you. We're making it at 6pm so people who live out west but work
in the CBD can make it too.   Stop off in Penrith on your way home up
the mountains.

It's being held at the boardroom of Webdaemon  - very nice comfortable
offices - plenty of free parking behind the building - about 50 metres
from the Penrith RSL Club.
The address is:

Level 1
374 High Street
Penrith NSW, 2750

http://maps.google.com/maps?near=374+High+St,+Penrith,+NSW+2750,+Australia

I hope we can get to see you there!

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Peter Tilbrook 

No. RC became the public beta. Release Candidate is considered closer
to the final product than Alpha or Beta. For the insiders testing CF8
for ages it is the RC. In fact the download files I get actually have
RC in the filename.

They are the exact same product at this stage - right down to build
number. We may have another RC release depending on the testing
everyone in the wider world are now doing - which would push back the
release of CF8 commercially. But good things are worth waiting for.

On 04/07/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> The RC as you put it, is on the labs.adobe.com as Public Beta. So if there
> is a different version named RC the public is not privelage to know about
> it.
>
>
> On 7/4/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > No. For Scorpio they had Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2, then RC (or
> > RC 1). Expect even more stuff in the final product release. It has
> > gotten better with each release.
> >
> > NB: CFMENU is sl compared to the AJAX menus Dreamweaver CS3
> > offers - hope they fix that.
> >
> > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > Is that right.
> > >
> > > As they release the RC and Beta at the same time, I thought that they
> were
> > > the same, I'm pretty sure they are.
> > >
> > > I'm pretty sure I read Ben Forta comment just before the release that he
> > > just installed the latest version which will be release as Public Beta.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Dale Fraser
> > >
> > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 6:30 PM
> > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > >
> > >
> > > No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
> > > shipping version (soon pretty please).
> > >
> > > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why?
> > > >
> > > > Aren't they the same
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Dale Fraser
> > > >
> > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
> > > >
> > > > > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and reading
> the
> > > > docs,
> > > > > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
> > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Dale Fraser
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Tilbrook
> > > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > > PO Box 2247
> > > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > > AUSTRALIA
> > >
> > > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > > http://www.actcfug.com/
> > >
> > > Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
> > > Mob: +61-0432-897-437
> > >
> > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Tilbrook
> > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > PO Box 2247
> > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > http://www.actcfug.com/
> >
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[cfaussie] Re: VOT: Where Is AS

2007-07-04 Thread Peter Tilbrook 
LOL! "He was consumed by the Request Scope" was second! (I only voted once I
swear)

I don't think Geoff B has banned anyone yet - but don;t be the first!

Seriously investigate the request scope.

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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Scott 
Peter, go back and read what you replied too.

You just did a back flip on everything.

We know Beta is RC, so why did you start by telling us otherwise.



On 7/4/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> No. RC became the public beta. Release Candidate is considered closer
> to the final product than Alpha or Beta. For the insiders testing CF8
> for ages it is the RC. In fact the download files I get actually have
> RC in the filename.
>
> They are the exact same product at this stage - right down to build
> number. We may have another RC release depending on the testing
> everyone in the wider world are now doing - which would push back the
> release of CF8 commercially. But good things are worth waiting for.
>
> On 04/07/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > The RC as you put it, is on the labs.adobe.com as Public Beta. So if
> there
> > is a different version named RC the public is not privelage to know
> about
> > it.
> >
> >
> > On 7/4/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No. For Scorpio they had Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2, then RC (or
> > > RC 1). Expect even more stuff in the final product release. It has
> > > gotten better with each release.
> > >
> > > NB: CFMENU is sl compared to the AJAX menus Dreamweaver CS3
> > > offers - hope they fix that.
> > >
> > > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Is that right.
> > > >
> > > > As they release the RC and Beta at the same time, I thought that
> they
> > were
> > > > the same, I'm pretty sure they are.
> > > >
> > > > I'm pretty sure I read Ben Forta comment just before the release
> that he
> > > > just installed the latest version which will be release as Public
> Beta.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Dale Fraser
> > > >
> > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 6:30 PM
> > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
> > > > shipping version (soon pretty please).
> > > >
> > > > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Aren't they the same
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Dale Fraser
> > > > >
> > > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and
> reading
> > the
> > > > > docs,
> > > > > > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dale Fraser
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Tilbrook
> > > > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > > > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > PO Box 2247
> > > > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > > > AUSTRALIA
> > > >
> > > > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > > > http://www.actcfug.com/
> > > >
> > > > Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Tilbrook
> > > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > > PO Box 2247
> > > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > > AUSTRALIA
> > >
> > > http://www.coldgen.com/
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> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Peter Tilbrook
> ColdGen Internet Solutions
> President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> PO Box 2247
> Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> AUSTRALIA
>
> http://www.coldgen.com/
> http://www.actcfug.com/
>
> Tel: +61-2-6284-2727
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[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Scott 
public beta that is...

And most of us already know how it goes with alpha, beta, rc them rtm...


On 7/5/07, Andrew Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter, go back and read what you replied too.
>
> You just did a back flip on everything.
>
> We know Beta is RC, so why did you start by telling us otherwise.
>
>
>
> On 7/4/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > No. RC became the public beta. Release Candidate is considered closer
> > to the final product than Alpha or Beta. For the insiders testing CF8
> > for ages it is the RC. In fact the download files I get actually have
> > RC in the filename.
> >
> > They are the exact same product at this stage - right down to build
> > number. We may have another RC release depending on the testing
> > everyone in the wider world are now doing - which would push back the
> > release of CF8 commercially. But good things are worth waiting for.
> >
> > On 04/07/07, Andrew Scott < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > The RC as you put it, is on the labs.adobe.com as Public Beta. So if
> > there
> > > is a different version named RC the public is not privelage to know
> > about
> > > it.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/4/07, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No. For Scorpio they had Alpha 1, Alpha 2, Beta 1, Beta 2, then RC
> > (or
> > > > RC 1). Expect even more stuff in the final product release. It has
> > > > gotten better with each release.
> > > >
> > > > NB: CFMENU is sl compared to the AJAX menus Dreamweaver CS3
> > > > offers - hope they fix that.
> > > >
> > > > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Is that right.
> > > > >
> > > > > As they release the RC and Beta at the same time, I thought that
> > they
> > > were
> > > > > the same, I'm pretty sure they are.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm pretty sure I read Ben Forta comment just before the release
> > that he
> > > > > just installed the latest version which will be release as Public
> > Beta.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Dale Fraser
> > > > >
> > > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On
> > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 6:30 PM
> > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No. There is alpha, beta, then release candidate, and then the
> > > > > shipping version (soon pretty please).
> > > > >
> > > > > On 04/07/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Aren't they the same
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Dale Fraser
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of Peter Tilbrook
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 5:45 PM
> > > > > > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The beta? You should be using the Release Candidate.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'll have to play. But even with playing with the Beta and
> > reading
> > > the
> > > > > > docs,
> > > > > > > I still missed this so I thought I would share.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dale Fraser
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Peter Tilbrook
> > > > > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > > > > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > > PO Box 2247
> > > > > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > > > > AUSTRALIA
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > > > > http://www.actcfug.com/
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > ColdGen Internet Solutions
> > > > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > > > PO Box 2247
> > > > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > > > AUSTRALIA
> > > >
> > > > http://www.coldgen.com/
> > > > http://www.actcfug.com/
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> > >
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> >
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> > President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group
> > PO Box 2247
> > Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620
> > AUSTRALIA
> >
> > http://www.coldgen.com/
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> >
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> > Ema

[cfaussie] Re: Did You Know

2007-07-04 Thread David Harris 

thanks for the [nudge]...
it's on UGTV now



Charlie Arehart wrote:
> For some reason, I didn't see  Barrie's note below to the list, but I'll say
> thanks for the reference.
>
> I'll also ask, though, why you think only a "US version" would be stored on
> the UGTV repository? :-) There's no jingoism there. Anyone who finds any
> CF-related recorded presentation (anywhere in the world) can post it there.
>
> Now, for some reason David Harris had not posted the URL for the one I did
> to Auckland (though he blogged it), and Darren and company have for some
> reason not yet gotten the recording from when I spoke there.
>
> But you can now find the URL for the Auckland recording in the searchable,
> sortable, RSS-able UGTV list, which has now over 140 talks from around the
> world (http://carehart.org/ugtv/list.cfm).
>
> BTW, when I do present to the Vic CFUG, there will be still more new stuff
> that I've discovered in recent weeks. CF8 truly is a treasure trove.
>
> /charlie
> Member, Adobe Community Experts program
> www.carehart.org
>
> My latest blog entry: CF8 Admin Changes: A compendium of new/changed
> features since 7.02
>  
> --Blogsigs.com, Link your own blog posts. http://www.blogsigs.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Dale Fraser
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:30 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
>
>
> Barry,
>
> Yes I have seen that, in fact have Charlie lined up for next Vic UG giving
> that talk, so I didn't read the preso as I didn't want to spoil it.
>
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Barry Beattie
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:18 AM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Did You Know
>
>
> Dale,
>
> one of the most useful "checklists" on CF8 features is the presentation
> given by Charlie Arehart called "Hidden Gems in ColdFusion8".
>
> I saw him present it for the NZ CFUG. He later did another version for the
> QLD CFUG too.
>
> Perfect for mental jogs on what slipped thru the cracks. There is a
> *TON* of stuff in this new release. It's hard work remembering it all.
>
>  - David from the NZ CFUG could probably point you to their recording of the
> presso.
>  - Darren Tracey might have access to the QLD CFUG version as well.
>  - And maybe there's a U.S. version on Charlie's "UserGroup TV"?
> (storage of Breezo'd presentations).
>
>
> hope this helps.
> barry.b


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[cfaussie] Re: column order

2007-07-04 Thread Raymond Camden 

I don't know. I can say that it isn't important, not to WDDX I mean.
The order of columns in a query, or keys in a struct, are not relevant
to the data structure. It may be important to you, but it isn't part
of the 'concept' of query or struct. If you need the order, keep it
elsewhere. For example, store the  query in mystruct.data, and your
preferred column list order in mystruct.mycolumnlist.

On 7/3/07, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Yes Ray, I do mean cfquery.columnList
>
> As a temp fix I am passing a list of column names in the order I want. Its
> for a YUI datatable.
>
> So how is column order preserved in a wddxPacket?
>
> >From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >Subject: [cfaussie] Re: column order
> >Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:01:27 -0500
> >
> >
> >What do you mean by column order not in cfquery? Do you mean
> >cfquery.columnList?
> >
> >On 6/27/07, Mark Ireland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > How can I work out how it is that the column order is preserved in a
> > > wddxPacket and not in a cfquery?
> > >
> > >  >output="wddxQueryOutput">
> > >  > >
> >recordsetElem=xmlsearch(xmlparse(wddxQueryOutput),"/wddxPacket/data/recordset")>
> > > 
> > >
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[cfaussie] nuFramework 1.0.0 Released

2007-07-04 Thread Dale Fraser 
It would be good if someone would try to download and install it just to
test that you can get it working.

 

It's kind of a CRUD but a lot more, there are screen shots in the ZIP as the
RIAForge screen shot system isn't working for me.

 

http://nuframework.riaforge.org/

 

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[cfaussie] Re: nuFramework 1.0.0 Released

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Scott 
Dale,

 

Will do as soon as I get an opportunity to.

 



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Subject: [cfaussie] nuFramework 1.0.0 Released

 

It would be good if someone would try to download and install it just to
test that you can get it working.

 

It's kind of a CRUD but a lot more, there are screen shots in the ZIP as the
RIAForge screen shot system isn't working for me.

 

HYPERLINK "http://nuframework.riaforge.org/"http://nuframework.riaforge.org/

 

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[cfaussie] Re: nuFramework 1.0.0 Released

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Mandel 

wanna give us a bit more of an overview?

>From what I gather it generates forms that then manage data?

Mark

On 7/5/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> It would be good if someone would try to download and install it just to
> test that you can get it working.
>
>
>
> It's kind of a CRUD but a lot more, there are screen shots in the ZIP as the
> RIAForge screen shot system isn't working for me.
>
>
>
> http://nuframework.riaforge.org/
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dale Fraser
>
>
>
> http://dalefraser.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>  >
>


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[cfaussie] Flash Media Server 2.0 Pricing and Editions

2007-07-04 Thread Guennadi M 

Is there someone who can shed some light on this:
I'm downloading Flash Media Server.

On this page http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/productinfo/pricing/
it says "The Developer Edition may be used in production
environments."

But then, on the download page, it says "...prohibits use for in
production via the end-user license agreement."

So, which one is it? Can it be used in production OR not?

GM
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[cfaussie] MyMovieMatch™ Beta Featured in Adobe® AIR Showcase

2007-07-04 Thread Andrew Scott 
First apologies for the cross post.

 

Some people may have already seen this on the showcase, and I think it's
worth having a look at either way.

 

The downside when registering, is that it is localised to the American
market so one needs to know a USA zip code to venture into the application.
But it is seriously worth a look at.

 

HYPERLINK "http://www.matchmine.com/"http://www.matchmine.com/

 



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[cfaussie] Re: Flash Media Server 2.0 Pricing and Editions

2007-07-04 Thread Chris Velevitch 

According to the EULA:-

2.1.1.  Developer Edition License.  This Section 2.1.1 applies only if
Licensee has obtained a valid Developer Edition license to the
Software.  In addition to the other terms contained herein, (a)
Licensee's license to the Developer Edition Software is limited to a
maximum number of ten (10) Concurrent Connections; and (b) Licensee
shall not (1) install, use or access the Developer Edition Software on
more than one CPU; (2) cluster any CPUs; and/or (3) use load
balancing.

Only "Not For Resale Software" has the production restriction.


Chris
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Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group
m: 0415 469 095
www.flashdev.org.au

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[cfaussie] Re: Flash Media Server 2.0 Pricing and Editions

2007-07-04 Thread Guennadi M 

ok.. so it's ok to use in production??


On 7/5/07, Chris Velevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> According to the EULA:-
>
> 2.1.1.  Developer Edition License.  This Section 2.1.1 applies only if
> Licensee has obtained a valid Developer Edition license to the
> Software.  In addition to the other terms contained herein, (a)
> Licensee's license to the Developer Edition Software is limited to a
> maximum number of ten (10) Concurrent Connections; and (b) Licensee
> shall not (1) install, use or access the Developer Edition Software on
> more than one CPU; (2) cluster any CPUs; and/or (3) use load
> balancing.
>
> Only "Not For Resale Software" has the production restriction.
>
>
> Chris
> --
> Chris Velevitch
> Manager - Sydney Flash Platform Developers Group
> m: 0415 469 095
> www.flashdev.org.au
>
> >
>

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