[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
I wouldnt say worthless. If you can get a cf6 book you can learn about cfcs and all that stuff which is great if your just getting into things. Then you can learn the rest from the online docs. Free is free, or cheap is cheap, either way its better than paying full price, if any price at all:) That saidi dont want them:) _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 9:24 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Worthless? I have heaps of great SQL Server, Adobe CS3, Windows Vista, Office 2007, MySQL, ASP and .NET, MySQL, CSS and more books. Not worthless at all. On 22/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
i think dale was refering to earlier coldfusion books peter. use your head more instead of your mouth. (yes i know its the wrong medium for a comment like that but you get what i mean) _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 10:39 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Worthless? I have heaps of great SQL Server, Adobe CS3, Windows Vista, Office 2007, MySQL, ASP and .NET, MySQL, CSS and more books. Not worthless at all. On 22/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Yes and I will boost the library when the any new books are released - but many will stick to at least to CF7 for a while. On 22/07/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think dale was refering to earlier coldfusion books peter. use your head more instead of your mouth. (yes i know its the wrong medium for a comment like that but you get what i mean) -- *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Peter Tilbrook *Sent:* Sunday, 22 July 2007 10:39 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Worthless? I have heaps of great SQL Server, Adobe CS3, Windows Vista, Office 2007, MySQL, ASP and .NET, MySQL, CSS and more books. Not worthless at all. On 22/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Well, hey, as long as we're still recognizing the possible value of older CF books, I'll note that there was also the CFMX Bible (which I did with Adam and David Churvis, and Hal Helms). Now, I'm sure it may seem self-serving for me to mention these (and Ray to mention his), but Steve made a very good point about how some subjects were covered more at that time as new in 6 or 6.1, where later books may have scaled back such coverage to make room to focus on newer features of 7. Another good measure of an older book's value is the Amazon ratings (high for the CFMX Bible and others) and whether you can still find it on bookshelves. I see the CFMX Bible often--though I know this thread was about poor coverage of CF books down under. :-) Anyway, before someone says: yeah, well if the books were so good why weren't they updated for 7, or 8? That was just economics of the publishing industry in those few of years after the bust. Lots of books were shelved and not updated as tech took a hit in general. Fortunately, there will be the CF8 updates to the WACK books, and I'm fortunate to be contributing (as Ray's been for years). There will be 3 books, split between beginner, intermediate, and advanced. Look for them to be out in coming months (can't be any more specific than that: keep an eye on Ben's blog for any more info). /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
I think you are better off with a good study guide (for a certification exam) and some well written open-source apps to study. And be tough about what makes an app good. Like DRY, content and style seperate, a data layer blah blah blah _ Advertisement: New jobsjobsjobs.com.au. Find thousands of jobs online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2Enet%2Fclk%3B114014868%3B17770752%3Bi%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejobsjobsjobs%2Ecom%2Eau_t=762242361_r=Hotmail_email_tagline_July07_m=EXT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Have no idea, I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Weird. Ok - so let me get back to mucking up coldfusionbloggers.org with a new update. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have no idea, I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
suggestion: then start giving them away - high schools, colleges, etc. - user group members I got a few that I'll be glad to spread around**: - Studio 8 - Flash 2004/ studio 2004 (still usable) - the Webser/McCloud Flex 2 book - ASP.NET 1.1, ADO.NET. no good to me anymore. I reckon there are hundreds of books gathering dust on shelves that could be repurposed it's got a bit more use than my origional copies of VB3 or my ASP/VBScript books that are now paperweights... (**Sarah: interested for you student Library?) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Western Sydney CFUG (BMUG)
The second meeting of the Western Sydney and Blue Mountains ColdFusion User Group (BMUG) will be held on 8 August in Penrith.We hope you can all come. It's to be a special meeting, because it's the second. Only once in our lives do we get to have a second meeting of a user group.I'll be giving a presentation about a little-known and little-used but very useful aspect of ColdFusion, and since there are rumours of a new version of coldfusion coming out some time soon, we'll probably be talking a little about that too. It's to be at Webdaemon's premises in Penrith, and we'd welcome anyone interested in ColdFusion. Even if you dont work in the West of Sydney. (Last time we had some people who work in the City but live out this way). And since the Sydney CFUG doesnt meet much these days, we'd welcome anyone from that group who just wants to come and see what all of us westies look like. You'll find we're quite hospitable and house trained. The address: Webdaemon Pty Ltd, Level 1, 374 High Street, Penrith, NSW, 2750 Phone 8207-8916 http://www.webdaemon.com.au There's plenty of parking out back and it's free. Please let me or Rod Higgins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) know if you'd like to come so we can make sure it's adequately caterered for. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
@Ray - In the case of Fire, property can be replaced. I have many NON CF Books that are very valuable, Head First Design Patterns, Test Driven Development and JUnit Testing which I have applied to the CF world for the last 12 months and consider them invaluable resource material. In fact the last CF Book I bought was the Ben Forta series for CF5, CFWACK and the other one name escapes me with all the tags etc. Most books I have now are design patterns, coding styles, etc. Which can all be applied to CF, but also many other languages as well. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:20 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Have no idea, I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
