date:20091209

Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread MrBuzzy

Me too.


On 12/10/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
> I can make Tuesday if that helps solidify the date.
>
> Gavin.
>
>
> On 10/12/2009, at 13:00 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>
>> I cant do thursdayi am flying out to canada friday morning so need to
>> make sure i am all prepared :)  so tuesday?
>>
>> From: Mark Mandel [mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:58 PM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>>
>> I can do Tuesday, or Thursday next week.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Steve Onnis 
>> wrote:
>> Well its too late for this week
>>
>> How about next Tuesday, 7pm at TOTOs on Lygon Street ?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:52 PM
>> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>>
>> Steve asked for date suggestions and no one replied, including me :)
>>
>> It's the silly season. As organiser I think Steve should nominate a a
>> date. I'll try to make it. Or we could always try for early in the new
>> year.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/10/09, Mark Mandel  wrote:
>> > Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my
>> > calendar
>> > with some notice ;o)
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm easy.
>> >> And I can attend any evening too!
>> >>
>> >> gavin.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
>> >> >
>> >> > -Original Message-
>> >> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> >> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
>> >> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >> >
>> >> > Strike out my vote then :)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
>> >> >> Looking at next Thursday night
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Original Message-
>> >> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
>> >> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow,
>> >> >> depends
>> >> >> when it is?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
>> >> >>> Hi Steve,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no
>> >> >>> real
>> >> >>> preference.
>> >> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> gavin.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >>  Hey everyone in Melb
>> >> 
>> >>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to
>> >>  get
>> >>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking
>> >>  next
>> >> and
>> >> >> we
>> >>  currently have few options...
>> >> 
>> >>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and
>> >>  have
>> >> > some
>> >>  drinks and pizza and a chat
>> >>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
>> >> Carnegie
>> >>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
>> >>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
>> >> 
>> >>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend
>> >>  so
>> >>  we
>> >> >> can
>> >>  make the final preparations that would be great.
>> >> 
>> >>  Regards
>> >>  Steve Onnis
>> >> 
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Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread Gavin Baumanis

I can make Tuesday if that helps solidify the date.

Gavin.


On 10/12/2009, at 13:00 , Steve Onnis wrote:

> I cant do thursdayi am flying out to canada friday morning so need to 
> make sure i am all prepared :)  so tuesday?
> 
> From: Mark Mandel [mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:58 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> 
> I can do Tuesday, or Thursday next week.
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> Well its too late for this week
> 
> How about next Tuesday, 7pm at TOTOs on Lygon Street ?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:52 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> 
> Steve asked for date suggestions and no one replied, including me :)
> 
> It's the silly season. As organiser I think Steve should nominate a a
> date. I'll try to make it. Or we could always try for early in the new
> year.
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/10/09, Mark Mandel  wrote:
> > Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my calendar
> > with some notice ;o)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm easy.
> >> And I can attend any evening too!
> >>
> >> gavin.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
> >>
> >> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
> >> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> >> >
> >> > Strike out my vote then :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> >> >> Looking at next Thursday night
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
> >> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow, depends
> >> >> when it is?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
> >> >>> Hi Steve,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no real
> >> >>> preference.
> >> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> gavin.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  Hey everyone in Melb
> >> 
> >>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to
> >>  get
> >>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking next
> >> and
> >> >> we
> >>  currently have few options...
> >> 
> >>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and have
> >> > some
> >>  drinks and pizza and a chat
> >>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
> >> Carnegie
> >>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
> >>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
> >> 
> >>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend so
> >>  we
> >> >> can
> >>  make the final preparations that would be great.
> >> 
> >>  Regards
> >>  Steve Onnis
> >> 
> >>  --
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> >> >>>
> >> >>> As always, please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Gavin "Beau" Baumanis
> >> >>> Senior Application Developer
> >> >>> PalCare P/L
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 657 Nicholson Street
> >> >>> Carlton North
> >> >>> Victoria, Australia, 3054
> >> >>>
> >> >>> E: b...@palcare.com.au
> >> >>> P: +61 -3 9380 3513
> >> >>> M: +61 -438 545 586
> >> >>> W: http://www.palcare.com.au
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RE: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread Steve Onnis

I cant do thursdayi am flying out to canada friday morning so need to
make sure i am all prepared :)  so tuesday?

  _  

From: Mark Mandel [mailto:mark.man...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:58 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet


I can do Tuesday, or Thursday next week.

Mark


On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Steve Onnis 
wrote:


Well its too late for this week

How about next Tuesday, 7pm at TOTOs on Lygon Street ?


-Original Message-
From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:52 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

Steve asked for date suggestions and no one replied, including me :)

It's the silly season. As organiser I think Steve should nominate a a
date. I'll try to make it. Or we could always try for early in the new
year.



On 12/10/09, Mark Mandel  wrote:
> Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my calendar
> with some notice ;o)
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis 
wrote:
>
>> I'm easy.
>> And I can attend any evening too!
>>
>> gavin.
>>
>>
>> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>>
>> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
>> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >
>> > Strike out my vote then :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
>> >> Looking at next Thursday night
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
>> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >>
>> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow, depends
>> >> when it is?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
>> >>> Hi Steve,
>> >>>
>> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no real
>> >>> preference.
>> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
>> >>>
>> >>> gavin.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Hey everyone in Melb
>> 
>>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to
>>  get
>>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking next
>> and
>> >> we
>>  currently have few options...
>> 
>>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and have
>> > some
>>  drinks and pizza and a chat
>>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
>> Carnegie
>>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
>>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
>> 
>>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend so
>>  we
>> >> can
>>  make the final preparations that would be great.
>> 
>>  Regards
>>  Steve Onnis
>> 
>>  --
>> 
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>> >>> As always, please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Gavin "Beau" Baumanis
>> >>> Senior Application Developer
>> >>> PalCare P/L
>> >>>
>> >>> 657 Nicholson Street
>> >>> Carlton North
>> >>> Victoria, Australia, 3054
>> >>>
>> >>> E: b...@palcare.com.au
>> >>> P: +61 -3 9380 3513
>> >>> M: +61 -438 545 586
>> >>> W: http://www.palcare.com.au
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Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread Mark Mandel

I can do Tuesday, or Thursday next week.

Mark

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Steve Onnis wrote:

> Well its too late for this week
>
> How about next Tuesday, 7pm at TOTOs on Lygon Street ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:52 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>
> Steve asked for date suggestions and no one replied, including me :)
>
> It's the silly season. As organiser I think Steve should nominate a a
> date. I'll try to make it. Or we could always try for early in the new
> year.
>
>
>
> On 12/10/09, Mark Mandel  wrote:
> > Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my calendar
> > with some notice ;o)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm easy.
> >> And I can attend any evening too!
> >>
> >> gavin.
> >>
> >>
> >> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
> >>
> >> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
> >> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> >> >
> >> > Strike out my vote then :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> >> >> Looking at next Thursday night
> >> >>
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
> >> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> >> >>
> >> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow, depends
> >> >> when it is?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
> >> >>> Hi Steve,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no real
> >> >>> preference.
> >> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> gavin.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  Hey everyone in Melb
> >> 
> >>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to
> >>  get
> >>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking next
> >> and
> >> >> we
> >>  currently have few options...
> >> 
> >>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and
> have
> >> > some
> >>  drinks and pizza and a chat
> >>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
> >> Carnegie
> >>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
> >>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
> >> 
> >>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend so
> >>  we
> >> >> can
> >>  make the final preparations that would be great.
> >> 
> >>  Regards
> >>  Steve Onnis
> >> 
> >>  --
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> >> >>>
> >> >>> As always, please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Gavin "Beau" Baumanis
> >> >>> Senior Application Developer
> >> >>> PalCare P/L
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 657 Nicholson Street
> >> >>> Carlton North
> >> >>> Victoria, Australia, 3054
> >> >>>
> >> >>> E: b...@palcare.com.au
> >> >>> P: +61 -3 9380 3513
> >> >>> M: +61 -438 545 586
> >> >>> W: http://www.palcare.com.au
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RE: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread Steve Onnis

Well its too late for this week

How about next Tuesday, 7pm at TOTOs on Lygon Street ? 

-Original Message-
From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 December 2009 12:52 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

Steve asked for date suggestions and no one replied, including me :)

It's the silly season. As organiser I think Steve should nominate a a
date. I'll try to make it. Or we could always try for early in the new
year.



On 12/10/09, Mark Mandel  wrote:
> Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my calendar
> with some notice ;o)
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis 
wrote:
>
>> I'm easy.
>> And I can attend any evening too!
>>
>> gavin.
>>
>>
>> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>>
>> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
>> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >
>> > Strike out my vote then :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
>> >> Looking at next Thursday night
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
>> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >>
>> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow, depends
>> >> when it is?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
>> >>> Hi Steve,
>> >>>
>> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no real
>> >>> preference.
>> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
>> >>>
>> >>> gavin.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Hey everyone in Melb
>> 
>>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to
>>  get
>>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking next
>> and
>> >> we
>>  currently have few options...
>> 
>>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and have
>> > some
>>  drinks and pizza and a chat
>>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
>> Carnegie
>>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
>>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
>> 
>>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend so
>>  we
>> >> can
>>  make the final preparations that would be great.
>> 
>>  Regards
>>  Steve Onnis
>> 
>>  --
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Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread MrBuzzy

Steve asked for date suggestions and no one replied, including me :)

It's the silly season. As organiser I think Steve should nominate a a
date. I'll try to make it. Or we could always try for early in the new
year.



On 12/10/09, Mark Mandel  wrote:
> Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my calendar
> with some notice ;o)
>
> Mark
>
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
>
>> I'm easy.
>> And I can attend any evening too!
>>
>> gavin.
>>
>>
>> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>>
>> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
>> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >
>> > Strike out my vote then :)
>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
>> >> Looking at next Thursday night
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
>> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
>> >>
>> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow, depends
>> >> when it is?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
>> >>> Hi Steve,
>> >>>
>> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no real
>> >>> preference.
>> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
>> >>>
>> >>> gavin.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>> >>>
>>  Hey everyone in Melb
>> 
>>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to
>>  get
>>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking next
>> and
>> >> we
>>  currently have few options...
>> 
>>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and have
>> > some
>>  drinks and pizza and a chat
>>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
>> Carnegie
>>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
>>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
>> 
>>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend so
>>  we
>> >> can
>>  make the final preparations that would be great.
>> 
>>  Regards
>>  Steve Onnis
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RE: [cfaussie] Killing Slow Threads in cf9

2009-12-09 Thread Scott Thornton

thanks for your reply charlie.



>>> "charlie arehart"  10/12/2009 10:58 am >>>
Scott, as far as I can tell, nothing has changed in the CF Enterprise Server
Monitor from 8 to 9. Both it, and FusionReactor, and SeeFusion can all
attempt to kill requests. 

Just beware: such an attempt is only that, an "attempt". There's no
guarantee it can be interrupted. If a CF request is in what's called a
native thread (that is, talking to something outside of CF, such as hung
talking to a database, doing a cfhttp, or invoking a web service, etc.) then
none of the tools can interrupt the request. 

Yes, that does mean that CF requests can hang for a very long time, indeed
indefinitely in some cases and that you can't really do anything about it.
And no, not even the CF admin timeout setting can change this. It's subject
to the same limitation. It is worth noting that putting a TIMEOUT on CFHTTTP
or CFINVOKE is a good ideas, as sometimes it can allow CF to interrupt
those. We had a discussion of that here last year, if I recall. There's also
a TIMEOUT on CFQUERY too, but it doesn't always work and depends on the
drive version, type, database, and other variables.

Finally, should anyone wonder, all this inability to timeout requests in a
native thread state is not a CF bug. It's a JVM thing. The CF "kill thread"
mechanisms above merely processes ask the JVM to terminate the thread, and
it cannot terminate threads in a "native thread" state.

HTH

/charlie


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> Behalf Of Scott Thornton
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> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [cfaussie] Killing Slow Threads in cf9
> 
> hello,
> 
> Does anyone know if the new cf9 monitor can be used to kill off slow
> running pages\threads? Or is an external product like FusionRector
> still required?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
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RE: [cfaussie] Killing Slow Threads in cf9

2009-12-09 Thread charlie arehart

Scott, as far as I can tell, nothing has changed in the CF Enterprise Server
Monitor from 8 to 9. Both it, and FusionReactor, and SeeFusion can all
attempt to kill requests. 

Just beware: such an attempt is only that, an "attempt". There's no
guarantee it can be interrupted. If a CF request is in what's called a
native thread (that is, talking to something outside of CF, such as hung
talking to a database, doing a cfhttp, or invoking a web service, etc.) then
none of the tools can interrupt the request. 

Yes, that does mean that CF requests can hang for a very long time, indeed
indefinitely in some cases and that you can't really do anything about it.
And no, not even the CF admin timeout setting can change this. It's subject
to the same limitation. It is worth noting that putting a TIMEOUT on CFHTTTP
or CFINVOKE is a good ideas, as sometimes it can allow CF to interrupt
those. We had a discussion of that here last year, if I recall. There's also
a TIMEOUT on CFQUERY too, but it doesn't always work and depends on the
drive version, type, database, and other variables.

Finally, should anyone wonder, all this inability to timeout requests in a
native thread state is not a CF bug. It's a JVM thing. The CF "kill thread"
mechanisms above merely processes ask the JVM to terminate the thread, and
it cannot terminate threads in a "native thread" state.

HTH

/charlie


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> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Scott Thornton
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 6:04 PM
> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Killing Slow Threads in cf9
> 
> hello,
> 
> Does anyone know if the new cf9 monitor can be used to kill off slow
> running pages\threads? Or is an external product like FusionRector
> still required?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Scott Thornton, Centralised Billing Unit
> Hunter-New England Area Health Service
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RE: [cfaussie] Session timeout errors.

2009-12-09 Thread charlie arehart

Beyond the other excellent suggestions so far, a simpler thing is also to
check if somehow their sessionid is changing on each request, which would
explain why sessions created on one request for the user would not be the
same on the next request. 

You can track for each request (cflog, cftrace, whatever) the user's
session.sessionid value. That's a combination of their appname_cfid_cftoken
(or appname_jsessionid if using j2ee sessions). If you/they find it's one
value on one request and another on the next (for a given user), that would
be your problem. 

The cfid/cftoken pair are expected to be passed in either as a cookie or on
the query string. You could then output the cgi.http_cookie, which shows
their incoming cookies, and also the cgi.query_string. If neither of those
have the cfid/cftoken value being passed in, that would more specifically
demonstrate the problem. Somehow they're not presenting the needed cookies
(which CF will have created on a previous request). 

Someone may ask why I say to output cgi.http_cookie, and not cookie.cfid an
cookie.cftoken. The issue is that CF will generate those itself if they
don't exist on input, thus possibly confusing you. Same with using
cgi.query_string instead of more simply the URL scope. You could have code
that modifies the values of that URL scope by the time you would try to dump
it. The CGI vars show what was passed to the request. (You could also dump
the cookie scope and compare it to cgi.http_cookie, and the url scope to
compare to cgi.query_string, just to make sure they are identical to each
other. If not, that could be another explanation or the problem.)

Hope that helps.

/charlie


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Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet

2009-12-09 Thread Mark Mandel

Was a decision made on this yet? I'd like to get something in my calendar
with some notice ;o)

Mark

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:

> I'm easy.
> And I can attend any evening too!
>
> gavin.
>
>
> On 03/12/2009, at 13:11 , Steve Onnis wrote:
>
> > What night then? That's why I am putting it out there
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:42 PM
> > To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> >
> > Strike out my vote then :)
> >
> >
> > On 12/3/09, Steve Onnis  wrote:
> >> Looking at next Thursday night
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: MrBuzzy [mailto:mrbu...@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2009 12:23 PM
> >> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [cfaussie] CFUG Vic end of year meet
> >>
> >> I'd probably vote for option 3 but happy to go with the flow, depends
> >> when it is?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/3/09, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
> >>> Hi Steve,
> >>>
> >>> Love to attend - will go along with the majority view - have no real
> >>> preference.
> >>> And a big thanks for organising!
> >>>
> >>> gavin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 02/12/2009, at 17:04 , Steve Onnis wrote:
> >>>
>  Hey everyone in Melb
> 
>  I am putting together something for end of year CFUG and wanted to get
>  some feedback as to what people will be up for.  I am thinking next
> and
> >> we
>  currently have few options...
> 
>  1 ) Meet at the usual CFUG meeting (CogState Victoria Road) and have
> > some
>  drinks and pizza and a chat
>  2 ) BBQ and drinks at my place in Malvern East (5 min walk from
> Carnegie
>  train station and 15 minutes drive from the city)
>  3 ) Meet at a bar/pub in the city
> 
>  If we can get some feedback from anyone who would want to attend so we
> >> can
>  make the final preparations that would be great.
> 
>  Regards
>  Steve Onnis
> 
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>> Senior Application Developer
> >>> PalCare P/L
> >>>
> >>> 657 Nicholson Street
> >>> Carlton North
> >>> Victoria, Australia, 3054
> >>>
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[cfaussie] Killing Slow Threads in cf9

2009-12-09 Thread Scott Thornton

hello,

Does anyone know if the new cf9 monitor can be used to kill off slow running 
pages\threads? Or is an external product like FusionRector still required?

Thanks,



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Re: [cfaussie] Session timeout errors.

2009-12-09 Thread Rae Buerckner

Hi Gavin,

Have you set the session timeout in the  tag? Silly question
I know but you didn't mention that in your description.

Cheers,

Rae

2009/12/9 Gavin Baumanis 

> i Everyone,
>
> Just thought I would check if anyone had any ideas abut a problem we're
> having.
>
> We have a CF7 application that has a session timeout of 1 hour.
> CF Admin has a session timeout of 4 hours and an application timeout of 2
> days.
> It is standard install / non clustered.
>
> We have a check at the beginning of every template for a known session
> variable - and if it is not there we throw a custom error message.
>
> The issue is, that a few of our customers have reported that they are
> getting the session timeout custom error well inside the 1 hour (expected)
> limit.
> (some have said that it happens within 15 minutes)
>
> So I just thought I would check if anyone has any ideas on things we might
> check?
> We have checked the CF logs and they seem unremarkable.
>
> Our clients do not use proxy servers or load balancers - so that would seem
> to rule out non-session aware network appliances.
>
> As always, please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
>
>
>
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> Senior Application Developer
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>
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> Carlton North
> Victoria, Australia, 3054
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Re: [cfaussie] Session timeout errors.

2009-12-09 Thread MrBuzzy

Don't be shy he says... Ok :)

* 'use J2ee session variables' ticked or not?

* are you logging onSessionStart() and onSessionEnd() ? You need a
record or proof this is occuring and when.

* it's possible you have a bug or competing application that is
removing or overwriting the cookie value that identifies the session.
* take a look at some of the session blogs (Steven Erat and Ben Nadel
spring to mind) just to check you've got everything covered.

* change the logic of the 'check' that each page is doing. Also the
value you check for, is it created in OnSessionStart? Or some other
way?

Gotta go.

HTH

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> i Everyone,
>
> Just thought I would check if anyone had any ideas abut a problem we're
> having.
>
> We have a CF7 application that has a session timeout of 1 hour.
> CF Admin has a session timeout of 4 hours and an application timeout of 2
> days.
> It is standard install / non clustered.
>
> We have a check at the beginning of every template for a known session
> variable - and if it is not there we throw a custom error message.
>
> The issue is, that a few of our customers have reported that they are
> getting the session timeout custom error well inside the 1 hour (expected)
> limit.
> (some have said that it happens within 15 minutes)
>
> So I just thought I would check if anyone has any ideas on things we might
> check?
> We have checked the CF logs and they seem unremarkable.
>
> Our clients do not use proxy servers or load balancers - so that would seem
> to rule out non-session aware network appliances.
>
> As always, please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
>
>
>
> Gavin "Beau" Baumanis
> Senior Application Developer
> PalCare P/L
>
> 657 Nicholson Street
> Carlton North
> Victoria, Australia, 3054
>
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> M: +61 -438 545 586
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Re: [cfaussie] Re: Session timeout errors.

2009-12-09 Thread Gavin Baumanis

Hi Barry,

All the settings are correct and have been checked about twenty times. and by 
three separate people.
So I am pretty sure if there was a setting that was awry - at least one of us 
would have found it.

We're running on linux (Debian) with Apache Web Server - so that would also 
rule out an IIS (specific) issue.
It has completely stumped... we have been trying to find the underlying cause 
for pretty much the last 6 months on and off.

If we work it out - I'll let you all know - and likewise if someone has any 
further suggestions - we're certainly open to any new thoughts, so please don't 
be shy.


Gavin.


On 09/12/2009, at 18:38 , BarryC wrote:

> I'm not sure what web server software you are running on, but if it's
> IIS, could it be the session time in that? (not that I've had any
> issues with IIS session times)
> Also, just on the off chance, you haven't put the timeout numbers in
> the wrong boxes, or the wrong values in the session input boxes in the
> coldfusion administrator have you? (just in case you haven't already
> double checked)
> 
> On Dec 9, 2:03 pm, Gavin Baumanis  wrote:
>> i Everyone,
>> 
>> Just thought I would check if anyone had any ideas abut a problem we're 
>> having.
>> 
>> We have a CF7 application that has a session timeout of 1 hour.
>> CF Admin has a session timeout of 4 hours and an application timeout of 2 
>> days.
>> It is standard install / non clustered.
>> 
>> We have a check at the beginning of every template for a known session 
>> variable - and if it is not there we throw a custom error message.
>> 
>> The issue is, that a few of our customers have reported that they are 
>> getting the session timeout custom error well inside the 1 hour (expected) 
>> limit.
>> (some have said that it happens within 15 minutes)
>> 
>> So I just thought I would check if anyone has any ideas on things we might 
>> check?
>> We have checked the CF logs and they seem unremarkable.
>> 
>> Our clients do not use proxy servers or load balancers - so that would seem 
>> to rule out non-session aware network appliances.
>> 
>> As always, please contact me if I can be of any further assistance.
>> 
>> Gavin "Beau" Baumanis
>> Senior Application Developer
>> PalCare P/L
>> 
>> 657 Nicholson Street
>> Carlton North
>> Victoria, Australia, 3054
>> 
>> E: b...@palcare.com.au
>> P: +61 -3 9380 3513
>> M: +61 -438 545 586
>> W:http://www.palcare.com.au
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Gavin "Beau" Baumanis
Senior Application Developer
PalCare P/L

657 Nicholson Street
Carlton North
Victoria, Australia, 3054

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