Re: [cfaussie] upgrade strategies (enterprise software)
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 09:42, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.com wrote: but the core question is: what software should make up the 2011 upgrade? code/functionality that's slated for the 2012 upgrade as well as 2011? The reason given to me was So it can be made available to other BAs/testers etc for testing and analysis. Given the question isn't specifically about CF, the answer depends on the requirements the software being tested/analysed. Certainly, VMware will allow you to create multiple configuration variants for testing and anlaysis. But, if you want to go live just after the software is released, you'll need to be on the Beta or even Alpha program in order to answer those questions and do your testing and analysis. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095 www.apugs.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney Topic: Server Performance Date:4th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP on http://groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=34551 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: upgrade strategies (enterprise software)
Hi Barry, I must be taking the stupid pills today. Is the new functionality already coded and available - and simply not just included at the moment? Or does it still need to be created? If it is indeed ready-to-go, then I agree with Steve, and a virtual machine / separate instance would seem like the sensible option to me. I'd do something along the lines of; Create a new branch in your repository (SVN / Git / etc) of choice and use that branch as the ApplicationRoot for the application that the BAs/Testers use. That way, any changes you end up making can now be tracked and more easily merged back into your mainline of development. It is a two-edged sword, though. You'll need to ensure that any core code updates are now applied to the new branch as well as the mainline. Which is extra overhead - but without doing this, the merge back into the mainline from the the 2012 branch will be a really painful experience. Gavin. On Mar 28, 9:42 am, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.com wrote: Its another reason for having three physical servers. hang on, you're throwing me a bit here. Steve.O might be on the right track (use VM to create/throw away environments - although that in itself means packages/enhancements need to placed against the 2011 and 2012 environments: bits can get overlooked) but the core question is: what software should make up the 2011 upgrade? code/functionality that's slated for the 2012 upgrade as well as 2011? The reason given to me was So it can be made available to other BAs/testers etc for testing and analysis. On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Mark Ireland markinc...@hotmail.com wrote: All the stuff about avoiding a single point of failure applies with upgrades too. Its another reason for having three physical servers. From: st...@cfcentral.com.au To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [cfaussie] upgrade strategies (enterprise software) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 15:48:23 +1100 Virtual machines -Original Message- From: Barry Beattie [mailto:barry.beat...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 25 March 2011 3:44 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] upgrade strategies (enterprise software) Upgrading software versions: what's best practice? This isn't specifically about CF (although I'm curious how Adobe handles multiple version upgrades: do they have a CF11 and CF12 development environment running now in addition to CF10?) I've come across a situation where people want to include functionality, scoped for a 2012 upgrade, into the development and testing environment of the 2011upgrade (due later this year). why? So it can be made available to other BAs/testers etc for testing and analysis. any thoughts? thanks B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] Re: upgrade strategies (enterprise software)
thanks Gav I'd do something along the lines of; Create a new branch in your repository (SVN / Git / etc) of choice and use that branch as the ApplicationRoot for the application that the BAs/Testers use. That way, any changes you end up making can now be tracked and more easily merged back into your mainline of development. If our guys haven't got an agreement with the vendor to access their repositiory (turnkey app with customisations, 10 large clients), they should have there own, being updated be the release of service packs and hotfixes ... (so us branching isn't too big a deal) It is a two-edged sword, though. You'll need to ensure that any core code updates are now applied to the new branch as well as the mainline. Which is extra overhead - but without doing this, the merge back into the mainline from the the 2012 branch will be a really painful experience. That must be it. There must be so few resources that branching is too expensive and what's really happening is preperation for the 2012 upgrade by incorporating some of it now (and seeing how it goes). Fair enough. thanks again Gav. Barry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
RE: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] (next week) Server Performance 4th April (note: date changed)
Hey guys, will this be offered over Connect? and/or be recorded? /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:09 AM To: ap...@googlegroups.com; cfaussie@googlegroups.com; flashaus...@googlegroups.com; AirAussie; Flexaussie Subject: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] (next week) Server Performance 4th April (note: date changed) Monday 4th April, 6pm for 6:30 start Note: Change of date to 4th April due to the speaker double booking themselves! Tonight Robin will enlighten us on ways to improve server performance and this will cover all types of servers, not just Coldfusion. Please RSVP to help with the catering numbers. You need to sign in and join the group to RSVP. The venue is courtesy of Rocketboots. Note: In order to be eligible for the major software prize, you must have attended at least 3 meeting since the Novembermajor software prize draw. Previous major software winners within the last 2 years are ineligible. Please RSVP to help with the catering numbers. You need to sign in and join the group to RSVP. Please RSVP at http://apugs.groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=34551 Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095 www.apugs.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney Topic: Server Performance Date:4th April 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP on http://groups.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=post.displaypostid=34551 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: POI and ColdFusion
Barry, 2 cents duly noted... Actually what I'm saying is that my employer, and not myself, has the authority to make the decisions over the nature of their system's platform language... And being a government institution, it would be easier for me to find solutions with what is available rather than fantasize on what could have been ;) Regards, Eliseo On 3/28/11, Barry Beattie barry.beat...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, and for those playing at home... I'm running CFMX7... so i can't use cfspreadsheet... :/ so, in effect what you're saying is that the expense in upgrading two versions might be able to be offset by increased developer productivity? just a quick 2c. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] [ANNOUNCE] - 2 Developers Down Under Podcast
Hey all, Just wanted to give everyone a heads up, in case it was missed. Kai Koenig and I have started a podcast, talking about CF and related technologies, with a specific ANZ slant over at http://www.2ddu.com/ We've done 3 episodes, and covered quite a few topics, including a great interview with the venerable Geoff Bowers. We're sticking to a ~fortnightly schedule, and chatting about CF stuff that interests us and the like. Anyway, just thought I'd drop this shameless plug, and see if I can garner some further interest :) Also, if you have any events / job posting (no-recruiters) that you want us to promote, please feel free to fire it through to either Kai or myself. Cheers, Mark -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com T: http://www.twitter.com/neurotic W: www.compoundtheory.com cf.Objective(ANZ) - Nov 17, 18 - Melbourne Australia http://www.cfobjective.com.au Hands-on ColdFusion ORM Training www.ColdFusionOrmTraining.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
Re: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] (next week) Server Performance 4th April (note: date changed)
Hi Charlie, Wasn't planning to record the Monday presentation, but I am starting to put some of my past presentations up on our site using Brightcove, e.g. http://www.rocketboots.com/site/index.cfm/page/solutions#Business - I can add this one to the list, or do it for a meetup if you like (after WebDU though). Just to tweak the brief description Chris gave of the talk (since I hadn't provided one), I'm really talking about how to relate performance on your development machine to performance under load with multiple users, and the real importance of fast request processing. I was thinking of calling the talk How to earn your year's salary in ten minutes (i.e. savings on a reduced number of web servers you need to buy). A lot of the talk will be about how to use an Excel spreadsheet RocketBoots has used over the many years to predict hardware requirements for server-based applications. The spreadsheet will be available for people to download. It's based on a naive yet useful model from queuing theory - but you don't have to understand the maths to use it. Cheers, Robin ROBIN HILLIARD Chief Technology Officer ro...@rocketboots.com.au RocketBoots Pty Ltd Level 11 189 Kent Street Sydney NSW 2001 Australia Phone +61 2 9323 2507 Facsimile +61 2 9323 2501 Mobile +61 418 414 341 www.rocketboots.com.au On 29/03/2011, at 12:46 AM, charlie arehart wrote: Hey guys, will this be offered over Connect? and/or be recorded? /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Velevitch Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 8:09 AM To: ap...@googlegroups.com; cfaussie@googlegroups.com; flashaus...@googlegroups.com; AirAussie; Flexaussie Subject: [cfaussie] [ANN-SYD] (next week) Server Performance 4th April (note: date changed) Monday 4th April, 6pm for 6:30 start Note: Change of date to 4th April due to the speaker double booking themselves! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
