Re: [cfaussie] Trying to consume .Net Webservice
Chris Years ago (bit rusty on this) the biggest problem with CF .Net webservices was the the .Net WS was really a pointer to the dll, in CF you had to create object from it, find out methods and consume them. Andrew 2009/11/18 Dawesi daw...@gmail.com: I'm looking for someone who can help me connect to a .Net webservice from Dept Of Education... I'm about to look at the CFX_HTTP5 com object from the component store... before that I was wondering if there was anyone with experience with common errors when consuming .Net webservices. I can see the wsdl descriptor page in both my browser and with coldfusion however I can't post to the service without getting a connection error. any hints would be appreciated... webservice is password protected so I can't give it out here, but is test environment, so can make an exception for anyone who has had experience. I also have a test page you could drop on your server. Cheers, Chris Dawes 043 three 99 44 two zero -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=. -- --- Andrew Muller linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=.
[cfaussie] Re: Virtual ANZ Friday beer o'clock... - Connect room link
Yep, you also need the Flash plugin 2009/6/25 Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com: Dumb question maybe but do we need any software running on our client (other than a browser) to join the room tomorrow? -- --- Andrew Muller linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Virtual ANZ Friday beer o'clock...
Sounds good to me... 2009/6/22 Kai Koenig k...@bloginblack.de: Heya all, just wondering - anyone interesting to have a cross-country cross-region virtual beer o'clock in Connect next Friday? We're thinking about starting at 4 pm NZ time so that our friends in WA can start drinking at lunch time but the room can stay open as long as people like, really :-) Interesting virtual networking/webcam/chitchat opportunity for people who work from home or are freelancing and usually miss out at beer o'clock. To be fair - I have no idea how the server and the Connect room will cope, but I thought it's worth a try. Let me know off-list if you're interested. Cheers Kai _ Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web: http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog: http://www.bloginblack.de -- --- Andrew Muller linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Flash Accessibility Guru
Gosh Rae, when I saw the title and preview of this email I thought that I'd added another string to my bow ;-) 2008/9/11 Rae Buerckner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Guys, ACTAPUG user group meeting tonight, Andrew Muller presenting Flex/AIR demos. Next user group meeting is going to focus on Flash/Flex accessibility, recommendations for a guru please? R -- --- Andrew Muller linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU twitter group?
What about using Twemes: http://twemes.com/ ?? 2008/6/10 Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a thought i had while sitting here, waiting for the plane to Sydney. Anyone interested in setting up a twitter group for WebDU? Or is that something noone cases about? Just a thought. Mark -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU twitter group?
I'm twittering @rebel for any who's inclined... 2008/6/10 Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just a thought i had while sitting here, waiting for the plane to Sydney. Anyone interested in setting up a twitter group for WebDU? Or is that something noone cases about? Just a thought. Mark -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: MAX Early Bird Registration Discount
Leon I was at MAX last year in Las Vegas and will be there in Chicago this year as well. Andrew On 10/08/07, Leon Seremelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of interest who is planning to go to this? I've been a few times now but haven't run into any aussies. --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF Training in Australia
Hi Mike The company that I work for, webqem, also does ColdFusion training: http://www.webqem.com/training/coldfusiontraining/index.cfm Andrew On 18/07/07, Mike Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been asked by a client to provide a list of companies who can provide approved training in Australia - Sydney preferably. I called Adobe and they referred me to their web site which names Dynamic Web Training Pty Ltd SYDNEY as the only company providing authorised training in CF in Australia. Are there any others? I feel sure there are. -- Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFAussie Community Head Count
Still usin' On 01/06/07, Matt Voerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, Just a quick note to let you guys know that we at the Adobe Australia office haven't forgotten about you, and do monitor this (and several other) lists on a regular basis. We have a couple of Community related irons in the fire and will communicate more on them as they solidify. What would be of great help to us in the meantime would be a hands up (head count) on how many Aussie CF'ers are reading this list on a regular basis. If you could just ping a response to to this thread that would be grouse. Thanks in advance Matt Voerman Senior Consultant Adobe Systems Pacific -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd]
Angus You're quite correct about a relationship between Flex and ColdFusion sales. I interviewed Tim Buntel at MAX last year for BuilderAU and he told me then that CF sales had been helped by Flex. Scorpio will offer even better Flex support so if you're building frontends in Flex and you want to connect to data one easy choice will be ColdFusion. Andrew On 26/04/07, Angus Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok here's my take... It's really not unexpected. The SDK source was provided from day one, this at least makes it official. No more concerns about IP when building custom components. From a Coldfusion perspective? Learn Flex / Actionscript as of yesterday. There's going to be an explosion in the number of sexy drag and drop UI components. Coldfusion front ends in html are going to seem ho hum at best. (Even if they are uber cool ajax/dhtml). I see Coldfusion server sales picking up as Flex/AS3 cuts into php, asp, other markets. This is a natural flow on from a bigger slice of the web technology pie that Adobe will reap. New functionality will focus on server side integration eg email and database servers not front end. Front end = Flex / Flash. CF may continue to have a role in document management ie, search engine safe but I seriously doubt that this one wont be better handled via Flex/AS interfaces as well. Interesting to see how Adobe works in pdf handling. Flex Data Services / Live Cycle Data Services will be the bridge between CF and Flex more so than today. Don't even get me started on how Apollo will change things. I suspect that it will be open sourced as well. While I would like CF to be open source I don't see it going that way. Sorry Andrew :) CF will continue on, bigger market share but more enterprise back end in nature. How's that? Angus On 26/04/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, My first reaction, what date is it again oh wow its past April 1st:-) My second reaction, after I picked myself of the floor, that is a very bold and very strategic move by Adobe on this. My thoughts are that it would be to compete with Blend / WPF / silverlight or whatever they damn call it these days. But what a move... Please pinch me when they do this for CF *lol* But to be honest I think that even though Flex has a strong following, people are really adopting open source even more and this would be a great example of a product that will endeavour to survive past its due date, if there ever was one:-) And people are going to feel like they are shaping its future, as well as getting bug fixes released quickly. Great move Adobe, absolutely fantastic is all I can say. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone:+613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2007 3:55 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] What's it all mean for CF developers? [Flex now Open Source'd] So, Flex has been open-sourced... http://www.onflex.org/ted/2007/04/flex-goes-open-source-mpl.php what's it mean for us CF people? thoughts? b -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: validating an ABN
How about using a webservice instead: http://www.abn.business.gov.au/ABRXMLSearch/ On 09/04/07, Stephen M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, has anyone got a Cold Fusion ABN validator they can throw me? I've found a PHP one, but no luck so far searching for one in CF. So far, what I've come up with is Len(ABN) eq 11 which is a bit like Blackadder and Baldrick's s rewrite of Dr. Johnson's dictionary, stuck on Aardvark --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Blog
Congrats! You'll have to get Geoff to add you to the Goog! On 05/04/07, Justin Mclean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, After a few gentle pokes from certain peope I've decide to start my own blog: http://blog.classsoftware.com I've just put up a ColdFusion custom tag for converting plain text addresses into hCard microformats. http://blog.classsoftware.com/index.cfm/2007/4/4/ColdFusion-hCard-Microformats Justin -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU 2007
http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=allq=webdum=tags On 26/03/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, that chef was a real tosser in more ways than one... no tips for them! I knew I should have taken it as a slips catch but was assured that I'd be able to catch it. Poor Richard copped it worse, he ended up with rice burns down his pants. Painful! any more youtube or flickr shots? lets see everyone's incriminating evidence! On 3/26/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Barry, didn't know you had such butter fingers ;o) Mark On 3/26/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While this wasn't the best moment (I don't think there's a single best), here's one I managed to catch on my phone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeOGJmD3HvQ (crap quality, press the second button from the right to run it at it's original resolution rather than the expanded pixelly mess) Might have to get a proper camera for next year. Barry Beattie wrote: the web-doo, it was a good do 'n' all, to be sure. so who's up for a critique? be honest, be nice. perhaps their fav bit? priceless moments? for me it's the fact we have such a good event getting better each year. Thanx Geoff and co. cheers barry.b On 3/23/07, *Rei* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my first CFAussie Post! (No need to point out that it should be a watercooler post). :) Hello all. Well, specifically Darren as everyone else seems to be pre- occupied with something? I am sure some good reports must have filtered out to you too by now! An 'inside man' has been giving me the occasional tidbits (NDA? Isn't that the mob that tests performance athletes for illegal substances?) There is ample wireless to be had in the Hilton bar, where there are also apparently nice couches and attractive wait staff. I wonder if there is a category 'industrial espionage' on eBay Hope all the webDU'ers are having a ball...thank you for the great link too Barry b Nice to meet everyone too, Rei On Mar 23, 9:56 am, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Complete silence from WebDU? Is this a good sign? Is there no wireless there this year, or have they all been shown such super secret NDA stuff that they've all been locked in and shut off from the world? Or maybe Scott is plying them with so much Microsoft alchohol that they can no longer use keyboards! ;-) On Mar 22, 10:19 am, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be exceptionally good this year. No one is sitting in the audience wirelessly posting to CFAussie. They're probably all still in shocked awe from Mike D and Mike C's keynote! On Mar 22, 2:15 am, ACTCFUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoy you lucky buggers who are attending this year! I am in the middle of a crucial project (and still paying for last year too) but hope it is bigger than ever.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- Haikal Saadh Applications Programmer ICT Resources, TALSS QUT Kelvin Grove -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU 2007
I have to second Mark and say that this year was the best WebDU yet!! Great crowd, sat in on some very interesting presentations. Webjam was a lot of fun. Big thanks to Geoff, Julie and all the crew at Daemon for organising such a great event. Andrew On 25/03/07, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awesome conference all around! :oD I had an absolute blast, and all of you that I met in the flesh for the first time (too many to mention, but you all know who you are), it was great to finally meet you in person. @Ryan: glad you liked the presentation :oD Mark On 3/24/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hecklers beware! :) Talk about a tough crowd :) Glad to have met most of you there, and good to see most of you were plastered at the bar - good ol fashion Aussie conferencing :) Scott. On 3/24/07, Ryan Sabir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a great time! Lots of new stuff to be learned.. keep your eyes open everyone we're about to be deluged with opportunities. Numerous highlights: The fabulous Nectarine animations, every year they get better. Major improvements to production workflows, not sure how much I can say here... I'll leave that to the bloggers. Apollo, Apollo and more Apollo. Remember this is just the code name right now so don't get too used to it. CFAUSSIE regular Mark Mandel's Transfer ORM. Do yourself a favour and spend the 10 minutes it will take you to understand it. Priceless moments: Scott Barnes' laptop getting unplugged during a 'critique' of DreamWeaver. Ted Patrick's 'pubic' class declaration Only bumped into a few listers there.. maybe we should get an official CFAUSSIE cap made so we recognise each other. Thanks to Geoff and the crew for putting on another great show! From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Saturday, 24 March 2007 4:08 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: WebDU 2007 the web-doo, it was a good do 'n' all, to be sure. so who's up for a critique? be honest, be nice. perhaps their fav bit? priceless moments? for me it's the fact we have such a good event getting better each year. Thanx Geoff and co. cheers barry.b On 3/23/07, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is my first CFAussie Post! (No need to point out that it should be a watercooler post). :) Hello all. Well, specifically Darren as everyone else seems to be pre- occupied with something? I am sure some good reports must have filtered out to you too by now! An 'inside man' has been giving me the occasional tidbits (NDA? Isn't that the mob that tests performance athletes for illegal substances?) There is ample wireless to be had in the Hilton bar, where there are also apparently nice couches and attractive wait staff. I wonder if there is a category 'industrial espionage' on eBay Hope all the webDU'ers are having a ball...thank you for the great link too Barry b Nice to meet everyone too, Rei On Mar 23, 9:56 am, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Complete silence from WebDU? Is this a good sign? Is there no wireless there this year, or have they all been shown such super secret NDA stuff that they've all been locked in and shut off from the world? Or maybe Scott is plying them with so much Microsoft alchohol that they can no longer use keyboards! ;-) On Mar 22, 10:19 am, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be exceptionally good this year. No one is sitting in the audience wirelessly posting to CFAussie. They're probably all still in shocked awe from Mike D and Mike C's keynote! On Mar 22, 2:15 am, ACTCFUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoy you lucky buggers who are attending this year! I am in the middle of a crucial project (and still paying for last year too) but hope it is bigger than ever.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU 2007
Wireless is a little problematic but just too much good stuff... On 23/03/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Complete silence from WebDU? Is this a good sign? Is there no wireless there this year, or have they all been shown such super secret NDA stuff that they've all been locked in and shut off from the world? Or maybe Scott is plying them with so much Microsoft alchohol that they can no longer use keyboards! ;-) On Mar 22, 10:19 am, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be exceptionally good this year. No one is sitting in the audience wirelessly posting to CFAussie. They're probably all still in shocked awe from Mike D and Mike C's keynote! On Mar 22, 2:15 am, ACTCFUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoy you lucky buggers who are attending this year! I am in the middle of a crucial project (and still paying for last year too) but hope it is bigger than ever.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU 2007
Shh Simon - there's been sessions with NDAs, truely - signing bits of paper and everything... On 23/03/07, Simon Haddon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've all been sowrn to secrecy.NOT! I think most ppl are still over tired from yesterday. There is wireless Simon On 23/03/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wrong. http://www.flashmagazine.com/1390.htm On 3/23/07, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so good that not many are even blogging it - not enough time! it's huge. got2go rubbing it in... b On 3/22/07, Darren Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It must be exceptionally good this year. No one is sitting in the audience wirelessly posting to CFAussie. They're probably all still in shocked awe from Mike D and Mike C's keynote! On Mar 22, 2:15 am, ACTCFUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enjoy you lucky buggers who are attending this year! I am in the middle of a crucial project (and still paying for last year too) but hope it is bigger than ever. -- Cheers Simon Haddon -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/1/151/905 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webdu birds of a feather
With ApolloCamp only days away (http://apollocamp.eventbrite.com/) and webDU being graced with two Apollo team members (M1 M2 - the two Mikes) perhaps we can have an early bird:BoF/double lucky purple dragon get together of some kind for interested parties... Ah the glassy eyes of the faithful! On 07/03/07, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, My mention of webdu birds of a feather sparked some interest from various CF vagabonds. Was hoping to poll the collective brains trust of folks on cfaussie webdu'ers as to what they would like to see and if anyone wants to put their hand up for an early morning session. We have no breakfast planned this year (apart from tea/coffee and a doughnut if you are lucky ;) -- so consequently we have some spare rooms and time available before the day two keynote -- Tim Buntel and his Scorpio. Of course this is the morning after and many folks are late starters. Birds of a Feather is basically a mini-user group.. a more focused sort of group for like minds to congregate and discuss stuff. Mat Bryant from Daemon has put his hand up to lead a FarCry user group at 8am for 40mins. Does anyone have any interest in that subject or perhaps other topics? Anyone want to coordinate and lead a BOF? All the best, -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webdu birds of a feather
Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo Developers, developers, developers... On 08/03/07, Nathan Drury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea Andrew. Chant with me now . Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webdu birds of a feather
Flex is def. in the Apollo mix... On 08/03/07, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to add flex into the mix i'm in as well. oh yeah, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo ;) Bjorn On 08/03/2007, at 10:01 AM, Mark Mandel wrote: If anyone wants to talk OO or anything related to that nature I'm up for it (the chatting, or the organising) That is, if people want to. Mark On 3/8/07, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo Developers, developers, developers... On 08/03/07, Nathan Drury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea Andrew. Chant with me now . Apollo, Apollo, Apollo, Apollo Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webdu birds of a feather
Lucky bugga, how do you managed to do all those trips past your boss Grant?? On 08/03/07, Grant Straker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently at the 360Flex conference in San Jose and have to say the Apollo stuff I have seen here is awesome. Ted Patrick is coming to WebDU so maybe worth getting him to demo some of the Apollo stuff at the BOF if he's available. --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: webdu birds of a feather
Yep, confirm me - puts up hand and waves... On 08/03/07, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 7, 10:21 am, Geoff Bowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mention of webdu birds of a feather sparked some interest from various CF vagabonds. Was hoping to poll the collective brains trust of folks on cfaussie webdu'ers as to what they would like to see and if anyone wants to put their hand up for an early morning session. So can I confirm we have the following three BOFs or thereabouts? FarCry 4.0 --- Mat Bryant (coordinator) potential speaker ring-ins - Jeff Coughlin Apollo --- Andrew Muller (coordinator) potential speaker ring-ins - Mike C - Mike D - Ted Patrick CF Components (?) --- Mark Mandel (coordinator) Charlie Arehart (coordinator) All this assumes we can get people to stumble in around 8am ;) Any more thoughts? -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: What version of Vista?
their laptops (given laptops are highly visible in most coporations) do you think that a 6months or a year from now, DELL are going to sell new laptops with XP on it? I'd wager they'd move towards the Vista Pearl heheh. You're back to saying that we should upgrade because we won't be given the choice. ;) I should mention that maybe the X-Platform plays a role, in that macobserver.com reports that Apple Laptops make up 12% of the Laptop Market Share. That reminds me, your market share figures up top, what segment do they represent? Do they include the small server market, where MS has historically been losing ground to both Linux and BSD? I love the comics, I think they are funny and I too am a bit confused at times about the pricing of our Products (heh) but realistically, jokes aside, keep it in perspective. The pricing is but one concern of many. ;) For example this: http://tinyurl.com/2dxnph patent application, which to my eyes seems to be describing a way to divide an operating system into non-logical chunks, apply some DRM magic to prevent circumvention, and sell useful features at higher prices. Useful features such as the ability to run an unlimited number of concurrent applications, up to the capacity of the hardware. Don't we already have that? Would such a model fly, on a level playing field? -- Tom Kerr tjkerr at nextstudio.net -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: [WOT] Vista launches
Sure does... On 02/02/07, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using Mac OS X for over a year now, does that count? :D --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: What version of Vista?
How about what hardware do you need to run Vista? http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/01/running_vista_o.html Funnily enough, Macs are great machines for running Vista. They're new, they're fast and they exceed Vista's demanding specs. They can even run OS X and Windows at the same time. On 02/02/07, Peter Tilbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Anyone looking for work in ColdFusion?
Houeshold name in terms of both media and online Speling not a priorety... On 01/02/07, bananasontoast [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is looking for work in ColdFusion, you should check out this link: http://www.michaelpage.com.au/job-detail/ref/A808410.html -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion and Micrsoft Love.
I'm sorry Scott but how is this not a sales pitch, this is what you were hired by Microsoft to do... On 25/01/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kids, Since the Ted vs Barnes blog thing, I've been getting a lot of emails from CF`ers of old, who are looking to broaden their horizons somewhat. So with that in mind, I thought It may be worthwhile to float an idea past you all and see if it's got legs (since Microsoft haven't been invited to WebDU, this maybe an alternative approach). I'm thinking of doing a bit of a national tour (need to work out how I can hide that in terms of expense report(s) heh) but, I'm willing to showcase some of the new Microsoft goodness that will compliment the average Coldfusion Developer out there (so make sure its relevant to you guys and not try and turn you into hardcore ASP.NET developers overnight), while at the same time answer any questions you might have and debunk a myth or two. Essentially, bring some context back to the conversation that may compliment the average CF Developer out there as I know it's somewhat confusing as to how all the Microsoft pieces fit and whether or not they are relevant. Given that Coldfusion 8, is going to have native .NET support (http://ray.camdenfamily.com/index.cfm/2006/10/24/ColdFusion-Net-Integration ) (cfObject type=.NET is freakin sexy), this could also be an advantage to folks who have to play with both .NET and JAVA daily. (So bring an open mind). I promise, it's not a sales pitch, but a show tell - that doesn't involve mapping technology or flicker - that i'll promise ;) Let me know if you're keen (either here or offline, if you fear being labled a MS Fanboi) and I'll organise some of the MS HQ's (free beer + pizza) and see if i can bust open the schwag basement and get some give-aways in the room. It's likely to happen various times in the next two months (Sydney + BNE in March, and will see if I can find an excuse to be in Melbourne around then, but won't be in Perth until June - unless I can find another excuse before hand). I'll also ping some of the other of the MS Team to come along aswell. It's just an idea at this point, so let me know (seriously) if folks would be keen. (scbarnes at microsoft.com) -- Regards, Scott Barnes Developer Evangelist, Microsoft. -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: WebDU Pricing
Aw come on Scott, you can come along and bring your shiney new company credit card... On 07/01/07, Scott Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's actually not to bad all said and done in terms of price vs value. I think this question comes up every year and usually a response is Well its cheap compared to x conference. Hell, if anything the yearly boozefest per conference night is ample reason to justify the expense hehehe (especially when my new employer Microsoft seem to pay for these drinky nights hehe)... --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: VIC UG
Hehe, you know how multi-skilled Robin is, he'll be doing all his stuff in Cantonese...On 18/10/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Robin,Will any of the Asian MAX conferences be in English? Or will you be switching into Multilingual mode?Bjorn-Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Dale FraserSent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:56 AMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: VIC UG Didn't even know there was an Asian Max.Doesn't sound like an Asian name :pRegardsDale Fraserhttp://dale.fraser.id.au-Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Robin HilliardSent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:45 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.comSubject: [cfaussie] Re: VIC UGOn 17/10/2006, at 8:09 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: Robin, You presenting anything at Max or just attending? Just professional heckling, unless AFR Access wins a MAX award (wishus luck!).If it makes the finalist list I'll be manning a demobooth in the meet the finalists sessions.I'm speaking at the Asian MAX conferences in November on Flex topics (AFR Access and MVC/Cairngorm pressos).__Robin Hilliard-- ---Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Isn't Robin a girl?
NahHe's a bot...On 18/10/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What? This is way off topic, but kind of funny, after reading the post below, I realised that Robin must be Male. I always thought Robin was Female. Now, I was going to post it in Chineese using the translator, until I found the magic 8 ball feature of the google translator. English: Isn't Robin a girl? Chineese: 罗宾不是一个女孩? Then I reversed translated it to see if the message was right. Chineese: 罗宾不是一个女孩? English: Robin is not a girl? Spooky. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Muller Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:10 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: VIC UG Hehe, you know how multi-skilled Robin is, he'll be doing all his stuff in Cantonese... On 18/10/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Robin, Will any of the Asian MAX conferences be in English? Or will you be switching into Multilingual mode? Bjorn -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:56 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: VIC UG Didn't even know there was an Asian Max. Doesn't sound like an Asian name :p Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Hilliard Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:45 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: VIC UG On 17/10/2006, at 8:09 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: Robin, You presenting anything at Max or just attending? Just professional heckling, unless AFR Access wins a MAX award (wish us luck!).If it makes the finalist list I'll be manning a demo booth in the meet the finalists sessions. I'm speaking at the Asian MAX conferences in November on Flex topics (AFR Access and MVC/Cairngorm pressos). __ Robin Hilliard -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com -- ---Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney
DaleI'm under the impression that MXDU/WebDU is not run for profit.AndrewOn 11/10/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Robin,I realise that this is an event that is held by a commercial company that make money from it.I think however that long term all tech conferences that last the test oftime travel around. People attend every couple of years when it's convenientand that means sometimes due to financial considerations, when it's local. RegardsDale Fraserhttp://dale.fraser.id.au-Original Message-From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On BehalfOf Robin HilliardSent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:39 PMTo: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton SydneyYou know it's Daemon's conference?Sure Adobe and others (Microsoft,Straker, Gruden, Nectarine, RocketBoots etc) sponsor the conference but at the end of the day it's something Geoff at Daemon decided tostart up off his own bat.Robin__Robin HilliardOn 11/10/2006, at 1:08 PM, Dale Fraser wrote: That's a lame reason. Adobe aren't in Vegas. If they want this thing to grow and be successful, it needs to travel around. If it was in Melbourne I'd send my whole team, I can't do that to Sydney. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:30 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney Cause Daemon is in Sydney... (Hey.. if I was organising a conference, I'd want it in my backyard too) Mark On 10/11/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My rant for the day, Shouldn't this conference be moving around? There is a large user base in both Victoria Queensland. Why is it in Sydney again? Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.compoundtheory.com-- ---Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Web Skype Plugin
Dale, You could build it with Flex Data Services Express, it's possible to use it to build chat apps - I've seen it in training and it's pretty neat. On 14/09/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want a plugin or API so that I can integrate into our website the ability for customers to text chat to one of many people who might be available. So what I'm thinking is there might be 4 people in support and we will order them. Then when you enter into a webpage something it will chat to the first available person. It would also need to know if no one was online and let the customers know. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: Web Skype Plugin
Ah Barry You make a good point that I may have missed, I meant the old fashioned use your keyboard kind of chat rather than the use your headset kind of chat - sorry if I missunderstood Dale. Andrew On 14/09/06, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew, when you say chat you mean audio, yes? I woulda thought it was more of a FMS type of thing On 9/14/06, Andrew Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale, You could build it with Flex Data Services Express, it's possible to use it to build chat apps - I've seen it in training and it's pretty neat. -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Flex Group
DaleIt would have to be FlexCoders.AndrewOn 24/08/06, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think someone asked this recently. But is there a good Flex 2 mailing list. Preferably one that is CF centric. The ones I saw on googlegroups seem dormant. Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.au -- ---Andrew Mullerhttp://www.webqem.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SOT: Document Management System
Hehe, there's always LiveCycle: http://www.adobe.com/products/livecycle/On 14/08/06, Dale Fraser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mainly document management, ie:
Tracking Versions
Authorisation of who can do what
Workflow perhaps
Regards
Dale Fraser
http://dale.fraser.id.au
From:
cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:
cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ireland
Sent: Monday, 14 August 2006 08:50
AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: SOT:
Document Management System
So you want versioning or storing or both?
From:Barry Beattie
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To:cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject:[cfaussie] Re: SOT:
Document Management System
Date:Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:36:49
+1000
don't forget you can use the humble CVS for versioning documents.
you just can't do a merge on the binary file format.
just a thought.
On 8/11/06, David Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.fusiondox.com/
I meet the guy who wrote it @ CFUnited.
It's pitched at enterprise, and I think the price tag reflects that
from memory...
Dale Fraser wrote:
Hmm,
I want document management, not content management.
Ie: Managing versions of Word Documents etc.
Regards
Dale Fraser
http://dale.fraser.id.au
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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
[mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Of Peter Tilbrook
Sent: Friday, 11 August 2006 10:53 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: SOT: Document Management System
FarCry CMS - it Open Source - check out
http://www.farcrycms.org/
On 11/08/06, Dale Fraser
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wrote:
Our company needs a Document Control / Management System.
I don't want to build one, but just buy one. Anyone recommend
something?
Preferably Coldfusion / MS SQL.
Regards
Dale Fraser
http://dale.fraser.id.au
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[cfaussie] Re: WebDu Who's going ?
I'm there... -- Forwarded message -- From: M@ Bourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 22, 2006 9:35 AM Subject: [cfaussie] WebDu Who's going ? To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com It's one week till day zero, so who from the list is going this year? \m/(-_-)\m/ -- --- Andrew Muller http://www.rebelspirit.com.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
