[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-20 Thread Scott Barnes

The word SOA come to mind ;) Although its far from being in the same
space as SOA but it appears to be hinting at it? only in an automated
approach.



On 5/16/06, Barry Beattie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And the rule with those systems is "never change the code, always change 
> > the model".
>
> I'm having a hard time imagining that scenario on my last project -
> too much "micro-logic", scope creep and management who were *sure*
> they knew everything about "agile development"
>
> but anything that removes the coding "dross" is real welcome. even as a 
> starter
>
> > At some point the code generation architecture may need to be opened up.
>
> like Cairngorm Vs ARP, perhaps(just a selection on a wiz item)
>
>
>
> On 5/16/06, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Some people will remember Dean from WebDU - nice guy and doing some
> > very interesting stuff here.  Some predictions:
> >
> > - This is going to bring a lot of the stuff that's been discussed in
> > the CFObjective/Mach II/ModelGlue community to the broader CF audience.
> >
> > - This gives us a raw (in a positive sense) equivalent to the MS
> > Access style RAD database developement on the Flash platform.
> >
> > - People are still going to have their own ideas about architecture
> > on the server and client, and Dean is going to be besieged with
> > enhancement requests.  At some point the code generation architecture
> > may need to be opened up.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> > On 16/05/2006, at 2:15 PM, Darren Tracey wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
> > > the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
> > > I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!
> > >
> > > Darren Tracey
> > > Is it Friday yet?
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>


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[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-15 Thread Barry Beattie

> And the rule with those systems is "never change the code, always change the 
> model".

I'm having a hard time imagining that scenario on my last project -
too much "micro-logic", scope creep and management who were *sure*
they knew everything about "agile development"

but anything that removes the coding "dross" is real welcome. even as a starter

> At some point the code generation architecture may need to be opened up.

like Cairngorm Vs ARP, perhaps(just a selection on a wiz item)



On 5/16/06, Robin Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Some people will remember Dean from WebDU - nice guy and doing some
> very interesting stuff here.  Some predictions:
>
> - This is going to bring a lot of the stuff that's been discussed in
> the CFObjective/Mach II/ModelGlue community to the broader CF audience.
>
> - This gives us a raw (in a positive sense) equivalent to the MS
> Access style RAD database developement on the Flash platform.
>
> - People are still going to have their own ideas about architecture
> on the server and client, and Dean is going to be besieged with
> enhancement requests.  At some point the code generation architecture
> may need to be opened up.
>
> Robin
>
> On 16/05/2006, at 2:15 PM, Darren Tracey wrote:
>
> >
> > Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
> > the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
> > I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!
> >
> > Darren Tracey
> > Is it Friday yet?
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-15 Thread Robin Hilliard

Some people will remember Dean from WebDU - nice guy and doing some  
very interesting stuff here.  Some predictions:

- This is going to bring a lot of the stuff that's been discussed in  
the CFObjective/Mach II/ModelGlue community to the broader CF audience.

- This gives us a raw (in a positive sense) equivalent to the MS  
Access style RAD database developement on the Flash platform.

- People are still going to have their own ideas about architecture  
on the server and client, and Dean is going to be besieged with  
enhancement requests.  At some point the code generation architecture  
may need to be opened up.

Robin

On 16/05/2006, at 2:15 PM, Darren Tracey wrote:

>
> Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
> the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
> I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!
>
> Darren Tracey
> Is it Friday yet?

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[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-15 Thread Brett Payne-Rhodes

That's crazy talk!  ;)

Eventually I can imagine that the wizard will transform into a code generator 
that can be driven by output from a modelling system similar to those used to 
drive C++ code generators now. And the rule with those systems is "never change 
the code, always change the model".

B)



Dale Fraser wrote:
> I think it's good as it shows the possibilities.
> 
> I'll use it to read the code it generates, but I'm sure I'm not the only one
> who wouldn't consider using a wizard to develop real applications. I want to
> write every line of code so that when something goes wrong I know what the
> code is supposed to be doing.
> 
> Regards
> Dale Fraser
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Barry Beattie
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> To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard
> 
> 
> generate whole sections of apps without writing one line of code!
> we'll all be ruined! unemployed! the sky is falling
> 
> cluck, cluck...
> 
> On 5/16/06, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
>> the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
>> I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!
>>
>> Darren Tracey
>> Is it Friday yet?
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> 

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[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-15 Thread Dale Fraser

I think it's good as it shows the possibilities.

I'll use it to read the code it generates, but I'm sure I'm not the only one
who wouldn't consider using a wizard to develop real applications. I want to
write every line of code so that when something goes wrong I know what the
code is supposed to be doing.

Regards
Dale Fraser



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generate whole sections of apps without writing one line of code!
we'll all be ruined! unemployed! the sky is falling

cluck, cluck...

On 5/16/06, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
> the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
> I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!
>
> Darren Tracey
> Is it Friday yet?
>
>
> >
>



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[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-15 Thread Barry Beattie

generate whole sections of apps without writing one line of code!
we'll all be ruined! unemployed! the sky is falling

cluck, cluck...

On 5/16/06, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
> the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
> I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!
>
> Darren Tracey
> Is it Friday yet?
>
>
> >
>

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[cfaussie] Re: CF/Flex Wizard

2006-05-15 Thread Darren Tracey

Of course, that should have been Dean Harmon, from Adobe who released
the preview, as posted on Damon Cooper's blog.
I don't know who Dean Cooper is or why I gave him all the credit!

Darren Tracey
Is it Friday yet?


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