[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
I wouldnt say worthless. If you can get a cf6 book you can learn about cfcs and all that stuff which is great if your just getting into things. Then you can learn the rest from the online docs. Free is free, or cheap is cheap, either way its better than paying full price, if any price at all:) That saidi dont want them:) _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 9:24 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Worthless? I have heaps of great SQL Server, Adobe CS3, Windows Vista, Office 2007, MySQL, ASP and .NET, MySQL, CSS and more books. Not worthless at all. On 22/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
i think dale was refering to earlier coldfusion books peter. use your head more instead of your mouth. (yes i know its the wrong medium for a comment like that but you get what i mean) _ From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 10:39 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Worthless? I have heaps of great SQL Server, Adobe CS3, Windows Vista, Office 2007, MySQL, ASP and .NET, MySQL, CSS and more books. Not worthless at all. On 22/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Yes and I will boost the library when the any new books are released - but many will stick to at least to CF7 for a while. On 22/07/07, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think dale was refering to earlier coldfusion books peter. use your head more instead of your mouth. (yes i know its the wrong medium for a comment like that but you get what i mean) -- *From:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Peter Tilbrook *Sent:* Sunday, 22 July 2007 10:39 PM *To:* cfaussie@googlegroups.com *Subject:* [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Worthless? I have heaps of great SQL Server, Adobe CS3, Windows Vista, Office 2007, MySQL, ASP and .NET, MySQL, CSS and more books. Not worthless at all. On 22/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Well, hey, as long as we're still recognizing the possible value of older CF books, I'll note that there was also the CFMX Bible (which I did with Adam and David Churvis, and Hal Helms). Now, I'm sure it may seem self-serving for me to mention these (and Ray to mention his), but Steve made a very good point about how some subjects were covered more at that time as new in 6 or 6.1, where later books may have scaled back such coverage to make room to focus on newer features of 7. Another good measure of an older book's value is the Amazon ratings (high for the CFMX Bible and others) and whether you can still find it on bookshelves. I see the CFMX Bible often--though I know this thread was about poor coverage of CF books down under. :-) Anyway, before someone says: yeah, well if the books were so good why weren't they updated for 7, or 8? That was just economics of the publishing industry in those few of years after the bust. Lots of books were shelved and not updated as tech took a hit in general. Fortunately, there will be the CF8 updates to the WACK books, and I'm fortunate to be contributing (as Ray's been for years). There will be 3 books, split between beginner, intermediate, and advanced. Look for them to be out in coming months (can't be any more specific than that: keep an eye on Ben's blog for any more info). /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
I think you are better off with a good study guide (for a certification exam) and some well written open-source apps to study. And be tough about what makes an app good. Like DRY, content and style seperate, a data layer blah blah blah _ Advertisement: New jobsjobsjobs.com.au. Find thousands of jobs online now! http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fad%2Eau%2Edoubleclick%2Enet%2Fclk%3B114014868%3B17770752%3Bi%3Fhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ejobsjobsjobs%2Ecom%2Eau_t=762242361_r=Hotmail_email_tagline_July07_m=EXT --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Have no idea, I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Weird. Ok - so let me get back to mucking up coldfusionbloggers.org with a new update. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have no idea, I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
suggestion: then start giving them away - high schools, colleges, etc. - user group members I got a few that I'll be glad to spread around**: - Studio 8 - Flash 2004/ studio 2004 (still usable) - the Webser/McCloud Flex 2 book - ASP.NET 1.1, ADO.NET. no good to me anymore. I reckon there are hundreds of books gathering dust on shelves that could be repurposed it's got a bit more use than my origional copies of VB3 or my ASP/VBScript books that are now paperweights... (**Sarah: interested for you student Library?) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
@Ray - In the case of Fire, property can be replaced. I have many NON CF Books that are very valuable, Head First Design Patterns, Test Driven Development and JUnit Testing which I have applied to the CF world for the last 12 months and consider them invaluable resource material. In fact the last CF Book I bought was the Ben Forta series for CF5, CFWACK and the other one name escapes me with all the tags etc. Most books I have now are design patterns, coding styles, etc. Which can all be applied to CF, but also many other languages as well. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:20 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Have no idea, I don't think people do, just Peter Tilbrook :) Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 1:15 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Wait - so I did miss out - but people insure books? For what? On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys! Wortless in $ terms for insurance, not worthless in content. If you read my comment it said Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. I have a shelf full also, I'm not planning on throwing them out, but I don't think they are worth insuring. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raymond Camden Sent: Monday, 23 July 2007 12:16 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Speaking for myself, I thought the Mastering CF books were very well done. I know we worked hard on them and I thought they came out well. I may be a bit defensive since I was one of the contributing authors, but I'll won't stand by and let you call them worthless. I also know that Rob's ORA CF book is _still_ very highly regarded as well. On 7/22/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, Besides the CF8 ones, the others are worthless, you'd have trouble giving them away, so I wouldn't bother with the insurance. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Tilbrook Sent: Sunday, 22 July 2007 2:51 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6, 240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
On Jul 18, 2:57 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Would have to agree... was browsing Borders, Bondi Junction and they have possibly the most woeful selection of IT books (with the exception of MS Office, and social engineering crap on blogging and iPods). They're trying to palm off Dreamweaver 4 texts as current to give you some idea. The shelves for Mac are covered in Panther books (Tiger is the current release and Leopard is due out in a month or so). The list of tragedies goes on. I love a good technical book -- a real one that is.. still haven't managed to buy into this eBook concept. I guess its Amazon all the way these days. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Amazon is one problem here, or rather one solution. First if you buy more than 1 book at a time, it's less expensive to send it half way around the world from Amazon than buy it locally. The local book stores all think we are too dumb to figure that out so keep their prices high, people stop buying so they stock less, I'm not sure they have clicked yet. I don't even go into the stores any more, straight to Amazon, if Amazon had a base or cheaper shipping to AU then the book stores might as well close. The second part of the problem is that rather than buy a book to learn stuff you can download an ebook both legally and illegally. Personally can't read a book on the computer screen. But the third and probably most important part is that people just don't buy books as much, because they don't use them as much. Why buy a book when I can just google the question and get the answer. Still, i'll buy the CF reference set and probably Ben's CF8 books again (from Amazon again), but must admit I hardly read or referenced the CF7 bit. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Bowers Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2007 4:51 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books On Jul 18, 2:57 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Would have to agree... was browsing Borders, Bondi Junction and they have possibly the most woeful selection of IT books (with the exception of MS Office, and social engineering crap on blogging and iPods). They're trying to palm off Dreamweaver 4 texts as current to give you some idea. The shelves for Mac are covered in Panther books (Tiger is the current release and Leopard is due out in a month or so). The list of tragedies goes on. I love a good technical book -- a real one that is.. still haven't managed to buy into this eBook concept. I guess its Amazon all the way these days. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Your user group should be able to offer discounts through partners like O'Reilly and Peachpit - I know ours does. And they have been very generous to the User Group library in the past. On 21/07/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazon is one problem here, or rather one solution. First if you buy more than 1 book at a time, it's less expensive to send it half way around the world from Amazon than buy it locally. The local book stores all think we are too dumb to figure that out so keep their prices high, people stop buying so they stock less, I'm not sure they have clicked yet. I don't even go into the stores any more, straight to Amazon, if Amazon had a base or cheaper shipping to AU then the book stores might as well close. The second part of the problem is that rather than buy a book to learn stuff you can download an ebook both legally and illegally. Personally can't read a book on the computer screen. But the third and probably most important part is that people just don't buy books as much, because they don't use them as much. Why buy a book when I can just google the question and get the answer. Still, i'll buy the CF reference set and probably Ben's CF8 books again (from Amazon again), but must admit I hardly read or referenced the CF7 bit. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Geoff Bowers Sent: Saturday, 21 July 2007 4:51 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books On Jul 18, 2:57 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Would have to agree... was browsing Borders, Bondi Junction and they have possibly the most woeful selection of IT books (with the exception of MS Office, and social engineering crap on blogging and iPods). They're trying to palm off Dreamweaver 4 texts as current to give you some idea. The shelves for Mac are covered in Panther books (Tiger is the current release and Leopard is due out in a month or so). The list of tragedies goes on. I love a good technical book -- a real one that is.. still haven't managed to buy into this eBook concept. I guess its Amazon all the way these days. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ -- Peter Tilbrook ColdGen Internet Solutions President, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group PO Box 2247 Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA http://www.coldgen.com/ http://www.actcfug.com/ Tel: +61-2-6284-2727 Mob: +61-0432-897-437 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN Messenger Live: Desktop General --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Just a friendly reminder, it is Forta, et all Or however it is said. Lots of people work on the CFWACK series (including me :) On 7/18/07, Stephen M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. I also got a couple of CSS books from there which have been OK. But I do think that Amazon and eBay have proved to be too much competition for these highly specialised books. I can understand why The Technical Bookshop went out of business. Stephen On Jul 18, 3:29 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, Those were the first 2 I went to. AR was were I went 9 months ago and thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale - whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5 I went to however no CF. If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know that I'm blind! Cheers Matthew On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is upstairs and is huge, and AR is on the corner virtually next door from memory and that shop was 100% computer books. I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to head in there this weekend. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers -- === Raymond Camden, Camden Media Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog : www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. ColdFusion, as a platform and a language (CFML) is advancing and improving at such a rate a fully comprehensive tome would be dang difficult to create. History has shown that the CFWACK series are, if not the best, right up there (especially for comprehensiveness). Ben Forta et al must have sold several hundred thousands of copies already - and the new CF8 version will do better again. Just a quick tab through the User Group library I have, at a very conservative $40.00 per book (about 78 titles), amounts to about $3,120.00. I am running out of room for these great tomes. A more realistic (Australian) dollar figure would be more like $80.00 per book - a massive $6,240.00 (we are charged a heck of a lot more). These books are the user group library - I personally own some of them - but just realised I need to update my contents insurance in case of a disaster. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
I actually bought a copy of Forta's Advanced CF 7 from McGills a few months ago. maybe it was the last one. Actually I haven't used it much, its just not Advanced enough, it more of a beginner's or maybe intermediate book if you ask me. I also got a couple of CSS books from there which have been OK. But I do think that Amazon and eBay have proved to be too much competition for these highly specialised books. I can understand why The Technical Bookshop went out of business. Stephen On Jul 18, 3:29 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, Those were the first 2 I went to. AR was were I went 9 months ago and thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale - whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5 I went to however no CF. If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know that I'm blind! Cheers Matthew On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is upstairs and is huge, and AR is on the corner virtually next door from memory and that shop was 100% computer books. I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to head in there this weekend. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
If you like I can see if I can source some books for you from the supplier. Come along to the CFUG tomorrow and we can discuss:) Steve -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Mathew, There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is upstairs and is huge, and AR is on the corner virtually next door from memory and that shop was 100% computer books. I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to head in there this weekend. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Hi Andrew, Those were the first 2 I went to. AR was were I went 9 months ago and thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale - whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5 I went to however no CF. If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know that I'm blind! Cheers Matthew On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is upstairs and is huge, and AR is on the corner virtually next door from memory and that shop was 100% computer books. I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to head in there this weekend. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Doh, That sucks. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 3:29 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books Hi Andrew, Those were the first 2 I went to. AR was were I went 9 months ago and thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale - whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5 I went to however no CF. If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know that I'm blind! Cheers Matthew On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is upstairs and is huge, and AR is on the corner virtually next door from memory and that shop was 100% computer books. I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to head in there this weekend. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
