Re: [Jchat] New web page
On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:11 AM David Lambert wrote: > Newcomers won't know to search the site for control structures, nor will > they know to follow the links to control structures via the "explicit > definition" entry in NuVoc. Control structures aren't the right place to start, when learning J. Before any of the rest of it can make sense, you have to learn at least some of the expression syntax. Maybe half a dozen verbs, a few adverbs and a couple conjunctions. Also, learning how to define names and use parenthesis matters more than control structures. Learning the various noun notations can also matter a lot. So it's probably good to design the navigation so that control structures are easy to find for intermediate users of the language. Thanks, -- Raul -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] New web page
My most used J search is: site:jsoftware.com vocabulary This gets me to the basic language references fast, and serves as a base for other searches when I want something else. FYI, -- Raul On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:57 AM chris burke wrote: > > The old website had only a little information and the new site has even > less. It is really just a stepping off point to the wiki, the online help > and the forums. > > There are already several links in the sidebar to more information. Any > serious user of J should bookmark some or all of them. > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:59 AM Jan-Pieter Jacobs < > janpieter.jac...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If using firefox, you can save a bookmark, and use a keyword for turning it > > into a custom search, e.g.: > > > > make a bookmark named "jsoftware query" anywhere in your bookmarks, set the > > Location (url) to : " > > https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ajsoftware.com+%s > > " > > > > and put a keyword you'd like to use, e.g. "js" or "jsoft". > > > > Now if you type your keyword in the location bar together with your query, > > Firefox automatically pieces it together, without having to repeat site: > > jsoftware.com at every search, e.g. : > > > > enter "js control structures" in the location bar. > > > > Jan-Pieter > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019, 06:29 'Skip Cave' via Chat > > wrote: > > > > > Just need the search box back on the first page, to save typing "site: > > > jsoftware.com search term", every time I go there. > > > > > > Skip > > > > > > Skip Cave > > > Cave Consulting LLC > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:29 PM Eric Iverson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Navigation should and will be improved. > > > > > > > > For now, at www.jsoftware.com > > > > get started>vocabulary>controls > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:16 PM Ben Gorte wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think I know what you mean. My current solution is to search for: > > > > > > > > > > control structures site:jsoftware.com > > > > > > > > > > Grtz B > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM David Lambert > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Difficult to find control structures from the new main > > > > www.jsoftware.com > > > > > > page. I haven't yet thought of a good solution. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > For information about J forums see > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > -- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] New web page
The old website had only a little information and the new site has even less. It is really just a stepping off point to the wiki, the online help and the forums. There are already several links in the sidebar to more information. Any serious user of J should bookmark some or all of them. On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:59 AM Jan-Pieter Jacobs < janpieter.jac...@gmail.com> wrote: > If using firefox, you can save a bookmark, and use a keyword for turning it > into a custom search, e.g.: > > make a bookmark named "jsoftware query" anywhere in your bookmarks, set the > Location (url) to : " > https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ajsoftware.com+%s > " > > and put a keyword you'd like to use, e.g. "js" or "jsoft". > > Now if you type your keyword in the location bar together with your query, > Firefox automatically pieces it together, without having to repeat site: > jsoftware.com at every search, e.g. : > > enter "js control structures" in the location bar. > > Jan-Pieter > > On Fri, May 3, 2019, 06:29 'Skip Cave' via Chat > wrote: > > > Just need the search box back on the first page, to save typing "site: > > jsoftware.com search term", every time I go there. > > > > Skip > > > > Skip Cave > > Cave Consulting LLC > > > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:29 PM Eric Iverson > > wrote: > > > > > Navigation should and will be improved. > > > > > > For now, at www.jsoftware.com > > > get started>vocabulary>controls > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:16 PM Ben Gorte wrote: > > > > > > > I think I know what you mean. My current solution is to search for: > > > > > > > > control structures site:jsoftware.com > > > > > > > > Grtz B > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM David Lambert > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Difficult to find control structures from the new main > > > www.jsoftware.com > > > > > page. I haven't yet thought of a good solution. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > For information about J forums see > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > -- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] New web page
Thanks Eric. "Navigation should and will be improved." is good to know this plan. Newcomers won't know to search the site for control structures, nor will they know to follow the links to control structures via the "explicit definition" entry in NuVoc. The header bar Usr Pri JfC LJ Phr Dic Voc is extraordinarily useful to me, and I wish it were a part of NuVoc. It is a Wiki. Maybe I'll add these searches across the top and see if someone removes them. >> href="dx000.htm"><< href="../user/contents.htm">Usr href="../primer/contents.htm">Pri href="../jforc/contents.htm">JfC href="../learning/contents.htm">LJ href="../phrases/contents.htm">Phr href="../dictionary/contents.htm">Dic href="../dictionary/vocabul.htm">Voc href="../dictionary/xmain.htm">!: href="../index.htm">Help Dictionary Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 23:29:30 -0400 From: Eric Iverson To: Chat forum Subject: Re: [Jchat] New web page Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Navigation should and will be improved. For now, at www.jsoftware.com get started>vocabulary>controls -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
Re: [Jchat] New web page
If using firefox, you can save a bookmark, and use a keyword for turning it into a custom search, e.g.: make a bookmark named "jsoftware query" anywhere in your bookmarks, set the Location (url) to : "https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ajsoftware.com+%s " and put a keyword you'd like to use, e.g. "js" or "jsoft". Now if you type your keyword in the location bar together with your query, Firefox automatically pieces it together, without having to repeat site: jsoftware.com at every search, e.g. : enter "js control structures" in the location bar. Jan-Pieter On Fri, May 3, 2019, 06:29 'Skip Cave' via Chat wrote: > Just need the search box back on the first page, to save typing "site: > jsoftware.com search term", every time I go there. > > Skip > > Skip Cave > Cave Consulting LLC > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:29 PM Eric Iverson > wrote: > > > Navigation should and will be improved. > > > > For now, at www.jsoftware.com > > get started>vocabulary>controls > > > > > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:16 PM Ben Gorte wrote: > > > > > I think I know what you mean. My current solution is to search for: > > > > > > control structures site:jsoftware.com > > > > > > Grtz B > > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 12:02 PM David Lambert > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Difficult to find control structures from the new main > > www.jsoftware.com > > > > page. I haven't yet thought of a good solution. > > > > > -- > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > -- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > -- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > -- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > -- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
