Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-02-26 Thread Roger Hayter
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Conrad J. 
Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Todd Walton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important enough
to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed to this
or that list.

Right.  But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely to
be others who would not agree that it's important enough to
cross-post.

Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it?  For instance, I
might  remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded
unless some  one builds a snapshot and increments the build number.
Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the
source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so
anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources, uncomment
the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new freenet.jar for
themselves.
In other words, it's still pretty much of an elite feature, and will
most likely remain so.
Maybe I misunderstood you:  I thought you were hoping for many stable 
nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated.  All I 
was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you have a 
new build number and new snapshots available for said stable nodes.
--
Roger Hayter
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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-dev] Important news for users of stable dual-network nodes -- Please read!

2005-02-26 Thread Conrad J. Sabatier
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 08:47:14 +, Roger Hayter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Conrad J. 
 Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:31:21 +, Roger Hayter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Todd Walton
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
  On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 13:30:33 -0600, Conrad J. Sabatier
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Please excuse the crossposting, but I felt this was important
 enough  to make sure it was seen by those who may not be subscribed
 to this  or that list.
  
  Right.  But the No-No about crossposting is that there are likely
 to  be others who would not agree that it's important enough to
  cross-post.
  
 
  Then it's hard to be off-topic in chat, isn't it?  For instance, I
  might  remark that probably not many stable nodes will be upgraded
  unless some  one builds a snapshot and increments the build number.
 
 Well, the dual-network capability is not enabled by default in the
 source code, and has never been enabled in precompiled packages, so
 anyone wanting to use it would still have to get the sources,
 uncomment the two relevant lines in Version.java, and build a new
 freenet.jar for themselves.
 
 In other words, it's still pretty much of an elite feature, and
 will most likely remain so.
 
 
 Maybe I misunderstood you:  I thought you were hoping for many stable 
 nodes (rather than dual-network nodes themselves) to be updated.  All
 I  was saying was that not many are likely to be updated unless you
 have a  new build number and new snapshots available for said stable
 nodes. -- 
 Roger Hayter

No, I just wanted to try to get the word out to as wide a potential
audience as possible.  I would *hope* that people involved enough in
freenet to undertake running a dual-network node would be subscribed to
at least one or two of these lists, but it's impossible, of course, to
know for sure if they are, or to which ones, so I just used the spray
paint approach.  :-)

The update itself doesn't really warrant a new build number, IMHO (or
maybe it does; I don't know).  At any rate, for the average stable
user, the update is completely irrelevant and can be safely ignored;
it's really only the elite group of dual-network node users that
needed to be informed, and I just wanted to cover all the bases in one
fell swoop.

The reason I felt it was so important was that, prior to this update,
the dual-network functionality was, in effect, pretty badly broken (at
least from the stable side), so I felt there was a certain urgency in
getting the word out.  I also feel very strongly that the dual-network
nodes serve a very vital function, bridging the two otherwise completely
separate networks and helping to propagate data between the two, thereby
helping to enrich freenet's content for everyone.

I hope I've cleared up any possible misunderstandings now.  :-)

-- 
Conrad J. Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- In Unix veritas
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