Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
On Sun, 16 Jul 2006, David 'Bombe' Roden wrote: On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:24, Magnus Eriksson wrote: Until the protocol changes ;) But they're not in alpha, so they can't break backwards compatibility just like that. ;-) Sure they can. AOL does it all the time (with ICQ). It was a sort-of humorous reference to Nexgens reply to me about mandatory upgrades.. That being said, I doubt they do it by posting "you must upgrade to build $foo within 24h", several times a week. (I thought AOL did AIM? Shows how well I keep up with "that stuff..) MAgnus ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
On Saturday 15 July 2006 13:24, Magnus Eriksson wrote: > > Until the protocol changes ;) >But they're not in alpha, so they can't break backwards > compatibility just like that. ;-) Sure they can. AOL does it all the time (with ICQ). > MAgnus David pgpXuFW1ePcOO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
* Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-14 23:20:06]: > Is there any evidence of reasonable crypto in skype? I have heard that > it is encrypted, but no other VOIP is...? > I've found some interresting slides about it : http://actes.sstic.org/SSTIC06/Castle_in_the_Skype/SSTIC06-Desclaux-Castle_in_the_Skype.pdf http://actes.sstic.org/SSTIC06/Castle_in_the_Skype/SSTIC06-article-Desclaux-Castle_in_the_Skype.pdf they are less than a month old ... in french, sorry. To sum up, it shows that skype is using many tricks to harden the reverse-engeenering process... I don't like security by obscurity :p NextGen$ > On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:14:43AM +0200, Magnus Eriksson wrote: > > > > I thought this might be interesting: > > > > > > Chinese Company: Skype Protocol Cracked > > http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 > > > > "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital > > funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components > > based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create > > compatible applications ..." > > > > "By cracking the Skype protocol, the company claims it can also block > > Skype voice traffic ..." > > > > > > Original source: > > > > Skype Protocol Has Been Cracked > > http://www.voipwiki.com/blog/?p=16 > > > > > > So.. > > > > "Software components that would allow developers to create compatible > > applications" > > > > Fantastic! So we have great stego for Freenet. And it might even be > > possible to bounce traffic off Skype nodes (or, Freenet nodes using that > > "component"). > > > > But... > > > > "the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic" > > > > We're screwed. :-) > > > > > > But I suppose it might be useful. Another option, if nothing else. And > > maybe I even can have a client that doesn't automatically report my whole > > social network to an easily subpoenaed server. > > > > > > MAgnus > > > > ___ > > chat mailing list > > chat@freenetproject.org > > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > ___ > chat mailing list > chat@freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006, Matthew Toseland wrote: Surely it is patented, and therefore cannot be used in western countries...? There is one mention of patents in the voipwiki.com blog: "They reverse engineered a protocol that was not protected by patent". Whether that means "not at all" or "not in China" I don't know. I don't recall seeing anyone of the posters at Slashdot clearly saying it was patented either. MAgnus ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Florent Daignière (NextGen$) wrote: "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create compatible applications ..." Until the protocol changes ;) But they're not in alpha, so they can't break backwards compatibility just like that. ;-) MAgnus ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
http://www.skype.com/security/files/2005-031%20security%20evaluation.pdfOn 14 Jul 2006, at 15:20, Matthew Toseland wrote:Is there any evidence of reasonable crypto in skype? I have heard thatit is encrypted, but no other VOIP is...?On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:14:43AM +0200, Magnus Eriksson wrote: I thought this might be interesting:Chinese Company: Skype Protocol Crackedhttp://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create compatible applications ..." "By cracking the Skype protocol, the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic ..."Original source:Skype Protocol Has Been Crackedhttp://www.voipwiki.com/blog/?p=16So.. "Software components that would allow developers to create compatible applications"Fantastic! So we have great stego for Freenet. And it might even be possible to bounce traffic off Skype nodes (or, Freenet nodes using that "component").But... "the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic"We're screwed. :-) But I suppose it might be useful. Another option, if nothing else. And maybe I even can have a client that doesn't automatically report my whole social network to an easily subpoenaed server.MAgnus___chat mailing listchat@freenetproject.orgArchived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.generalUnsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chatOr mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED]Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.___chat mailing listchat@freenetproject.orgArchived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.generalUnsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chatOr mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ian Clarke: Co-Founder & Chief Scientist Revver, Inc. contact | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 323.871.2828 | personal blog - http://locut.us/blog PGP.sig Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:27:25PM -0300, Caco Patane wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 7/14/06, Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Is there any evidence of reasonable crypto in skype? I have heard that > >it is encrypted, but no other VOIP is...? I mean no other widely deployed or standards compliant VOIP. :) SIP isn't. > > http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/zfone/zfone.html > > Saludos, > Caco_Patane -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/14/06, Matthew Toseland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there any evidence of reasonable crypto in skype? I have heard that it is encrypted, but no other VOIP is...? http://www.philzimmermann.com/EN/zfone/zfone.html Saludos, Caco_Patane -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEuBo5HFYiWTwv8Y4RAsQbAJ0cX0CHGYKhcIpMN5C9UvJViythFgCdGT/N o2R3PFO4Juq8chn85AyAvKI= =RKT1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
Is there any evidence of reasonable crypto in skype? I have heard that it is encrypted, but no other VOIP is...? On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:14:43AM +0200, Magnus Eriksson wrote: > > I thought this might be interesting: > > > Chinese Company: Skype Protocol Cracked > http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 > > "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital > funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components > based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create > compatible applications ..." > > "By cracking the Skype protocol, the company claims it can also block > Skype voice traffic ..." > > > Original source: > > Skype Protocol Has Been Cracked > http://www.voipwiki.com/blog/?p=16 > > > So.. > > "Software components that would allow developers to create compatible > applications" > > Fantastic! So we have great stego for Freenet. And it might even be > possible to bounce traffic off Skype nodes (or, Freenet nodes using that > "component"). > > But... > > "the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic" > > We're screwed. :-) > > > But I suppose it might be useful. Another option, if nothing else. And > maybe I even can have a client that doesn't automatically report my whole > social network to an easily subpoenaed server. > > > MAgnus > > ___ > chat mailing list > chat@freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
Surely it is patented, and therefore cannot be used in western countries...? On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 12:14:43AM +0200, Magnus Eriksson wrote: > > I thought this might be interesting: > > > Chinese Company: Skype Protocol Cracked > http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 > > "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital > funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components > based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create > compatible applications ..." > > "By cracking the Skype protocol, the company claims it can also block > Skype voice traffic ..." > > > Original source: > > Skype Protocol Has Been Cracked > http://www.voipwiki.com/blog/?p=16 > > > So.. > > "Software components that would allow developers to create compatible > applications" > > Fantastic! So we have great stego for Freenet. And it might even be > possible to bounce traffic off Skype nodes (or, Freenet nodes using that > "component"). > > But... > > "the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic" > > We're screwed. :-) > > > But I suppose it might be useful. Another option, if nothing else. And > maybe I even can have a client that doesn't automatically report my whole > social network to an easily subpoenaed server. > > > MAgnus > > ___ > chat mailing list > chat@freenetproject.org > Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-chat] Skype cracked
* Magnus Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-15 00:14:43]: > > I thought this might be interesting: > > > Chinese Company: Skype Protocol Cracked > http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 > > "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital > funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components > based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create > compatible applications ..." Until the protocol changes ;) NextGen$ ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-chat] Skype cracked
I thought this might be interesting: Chinese Company: Skype Protocol Cracked http://www.cio.com/blog_view.html?CID=22974 "The 10-person Chinese company, which has received venture capital funding, is planning to release in two weeks three software components based on the Skype protocol that would allow developers to create compatible applications ..." "By cracking the Skype protocol, the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic ..." Original source: Skype Protocol Has Been Cracked http://www.voipwiki.com/blog/?p=16 So.. "Software components that would allow developers to create compatible applications" Fantastic! So we have great stego for Freenet. And it might even be possible to bounce traffic off Skype nodes (or, Freenet nodes using that "component"). But... "the company claims it can also block Skype voice traffic" We're screwed. :-) But I suppose it might be useful. Another option, if nothing else. And maybe I even can have a client that doesn't automatically report my whole social network to an easily subpoenaed server. MAgnus ___ chat mailing list chat@freenetproject.org Archived: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/chat Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
