Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn
Jack, You're kidding aboutbuying a red,black and chrome horn aren't you, this is a Chevelle we're talking about here. I enjoyed your story to your son. Keith - Original Message - From: Jack To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn I hear that!...I kid around with my 9yr old son about that...I tell him,"Notice how all the cars are getting out of our way,Jackie Boy"?...he looks pretty astonished because they usually do!...Wait till he figures out that I say this when we're in the passing lane!...lol!...Anyway...Did ya ground the horn good when ya tried it? When I tested mine,I put the top of the horn down on the neg. battery terminal and used a wire from the pos. terminal to the prong on the horn...if it doesn't work,I bought a pair of some cool, red,black and chrome one's at a local parts store...Jack - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn My horn does not work. I wired it hot to the battery and no honk honk. Does anyone have a horn for a 1971 Chevelle that they want to get rid of. I need a horn to let people know that they are too close or get out of the way, a Chevelle is coming through. Keith See my Chevelle:http://home.mindspring.com/~keithc/index.html
RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts
Paul, Did you try a couple of your local Chevy dealers? I'd try the bigger and/or older dealers first, and then maybe a place like Scoggy-Dicken, or one of the other GM outlets for the crate engines. You said you called some-- I'm not sure if you called GM places or not. The engine mounts (not frame mounts) should be pretty easy to find. I bought some for my '70 and '72 at the local parts stores. I can find the part numbers, if you wish. Let me know. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts Thanks Brad, I exhausted all your information here and have no leads. How come you just can't buy 327 motor mounts and frame stands for a 1964 Chevy Chevelle. I even went so far as too call a few high performance small block replacement crate type engine suppliers and ask them how I could bolt them to my car. The best answer I got was they're out there. I would love anymore ideas someone could pass along. Paul - Original Message - From: Brad Waller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 4:34 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts You are looking for the actual mount, correct? This is also called a frame stand, I think. For those of you who think he is asking about motor mounts, he needs the part that bolts to the frame of the car that the motor mount then bolts to. My car has the small block stands (swapped from the big block stands) because otherwise my headers would not go in. I found some at a junkyard, so I suggest you call around for some of the larger Chevy junkyards. I think I paid about $100 for the pair, but this was a long time ago so it might have been less. I Found some '66-'67 mounts at Ausley's (http://www.chevelle.com/catalog.asp?action=categoryid=9) listed as EFB667S$99.001966-67 S/B Engine Frame Mounts pr So I would think that there would be something similar for the '64 models. Maybe try calling Ausley's or some of the other supplier and they might know what you can use. You can try searching the Team Chevelle site (http://www.chevelles.com/) to see if this has been discussed as well. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of pablo Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 327 motor mounts I am making an engine swap, the six cylinder and powerglide are out and I am looking for engine mounts to put the 327 in the 1964 chevelle. I have made all my local phone calls and no one can help. Where can I find these mounts? (frame and engine block) And how can I be sure they will work in a 64? I am also wondering about linkage for the 350 transmission that is going in with the 327. Is it possible to link up with the column shifter where the powerglide shifted from. Maybe a floor shifter would be nice (bench seats , no console) anybody found one that works well? overday Paul - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS
I have that information: "New five stud, center pilot 14 x 5 disk wheels are used on all models. Standard tire sizes are 7.00x14-4PR for station wagons and sedan pickup and 6.50x14-4PR for all others. Regular production options are 7.00x14-4PR, 7.50x14-4PR and thinline white wall tires for all sizes" I also find: Optional tires - size and ply 7.00x14-4PR, hyway, rayon, whitewall; 7.50x14-4PR,hyway,nylon,blackwall; 7.50x14-4PR,hyway,nylon,whitewall; 7.50x14-4PR,hyway,rayon,whitewall;7.50x14-6PR,hyway,rayon,blackwall; 7.50x14-4PR,hyway,rayon,blackwall This information is in the literature GM will send to you about the 1964 Chevelle. Paul - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS Thomas Build the car for you and don't worry if you have gone bc/cc paint.The diplomat blue paint with clear will be a knock out.The rear antena was installed but Dealers many times when people bought their car new off the lot,and really liked the look of the rear mounted one better.I took my 64 convert to a body shop last Saturday to finally get the body done after three years of waiting and one of the things that I am having done to it is installing the stock rear antenae,and having the fender filled.MyG.M. documentation I got for the car from G.M. of Canada,has the original size of tire but I can,t remember,as it is in the shop and I will check Wednesday when I can go there next.Put chrome on the engine but keep all the original stuffthat you can switch when ever you want to.Please yourself don,t worry about us because we'll all drool when you have finished the car. Grant From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:03 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS Hello I wrote to you sometime ago about my 64 Malibu SS which I owned back in 1972, which the gal pulled out in front of me in her MG. Well, ever since July 6, 1972, when my 64 Malibu SS went away...I've looked thru out the Central Illinois area for one like it. A dark blue, light blue interior, hard top with the 283 4bbl. I know all you hot rodders don't find that impressive, but that was my first car, back when no money was available to do much else. Well, I'll be 48 this May 9th, and thanks to a lot of great people on this list, I'm told I may have the 64 Malibu SS Hardtop delivered to my door by that date if scheduels hold, baring anything unforseen. The car is a solid Arizona car which compared to all the restoration projects I have looked at, has an extremely little amount of rust and being bought from a great guy. Lots of communication and well, somewhere around 28 photos. He even lifted the car on a hoist and took a bunch of photos of the undercarriage for me. So in just a couple of weeks, I'll have the car sitting here in my "recently cleaned out garage"which included telling the wife her car will have to sit outside for sometime. LOL I didn't happen to mention how long . or how long it will take to restore. I don't know who is more excited, me or my 14 year old son Jeff. It's going to be a great year... Wondering if some of you might take the time to look over the following and tell me what your opinion.re: Paint Restoration Questions/Items needed below I got a lot of questions, "a nervous novice" LOL ... Needed: Set of Mint/near Mint 64 Malibu SS Mag Hub Caps. Have 65 SS Hub Caps I won't need. Rear Antenna and installation kit. Possibly a hood. (The hood on the 64 SS has hood pins that were added to the hood, that I'm not sure if I want to keep, since not original). "Any Opinions". Factory Air Cleaner for a 64 SS with a 283 4bbl. Pair of 64 SS rear quarter panel emblems. 65's are a bit different. Source for: Delco Tar Top Repro Battery Question: Anyone ever do a change over from front fender to rear quarter panel mount installation for the antenna on a 64 SS??? I like the rear mounted better, but car has it on front fender. Since this was an "option" in 64, "from what I have been told" I didn't think that this would hurt keeping original. Any opinions?Question: Anyone know what brand and size of tire was factory original? Does anyone know what tires looks and fits the car best?Question: What parts on the engine operation should remain original "Delco" manufacturer? Dist. Cap, Starter, Water Pump, Coil, Battery, Plug Wires, Carb, Plugs, ect.Question: If Chrome kit added on engine, Changing out Air Cleaner, Valve Covers, Oil Cap, ect., does this help or hurt the value of the car when bringing back to factory original?
Re: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS
In a message dated 4/8/02 10:18:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The diplomat blue paint with clear Thanks, I appreciate that. I talked to a painter here, who has done a lot of old cars, and he uses Urethanes, not enamel or laquer. What I am not sure of now is the color. There is a GM Color #916 Daytona Blue Metallic and the Diplomat Blue paint both listed as on 64 Cars. I want to put on it the original color I had back in early 70's, but can't tell from the chips which it was. So I'm wondering if anyone knows why the #916 is not on the 64 color chip chart, but is listed as a 64 GM Color on another chart including the SS Models. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn
Actually,no...I'm not kidding.It looks like your basic horn but,with a bit of detail...the top is red,the bottom which cant be seen unless your under the car is black and the mouth/cage of the hornhas achrome finish...there actually pretty sharp,more importantly,they work...Jack - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn Jack, You're kidding aboutbuying a red,black and chrome horn aren't you, this is a Chevelle we're talking about here. I enjoyed your story to your son. Keith - Original Message - From: Jack To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn I hear that!...I kid around with my 9yr old son about that...I tell him,"Notice how all the cars are getting out of our way,Jackie Boy"?...he looks pretty astonished because they usually do!...Wait till he figures out that I say this when we're in the passing lane!...lol!...Anyway...Did ya ground the horn good when ya tried it? When I tested mine,I put the top of the horn down on the neg. battery terminal and used a wire from the pos. terminal to the prong on the horn...if it doesn't work,I bought a pair of some cool, red,black and chrome one's at a local parts store...Jack - Original Message - From: Keith Cooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:22 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Horn My horn does not work. I wired it hot to the battery and no honk honk. Does anyone have a horn for a 1971 Chevelle that they want to get rid of. I need a horn to let people know that they are too close or get out of the way, a Chevelle is coming through. Keith See my Chevelle:http://home.mindspring.com/~keithc/index.html
[Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s
Anybody been able to custom order these wheels with non-standard backspacing? My wheel guy says you only can get them the way they show in the catalog (which is 4 backspacing). I'm trying to buy 15x8's with 4.5 backspacing. Lance - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Do you have a 64 SS?
Hello Am interested in communicating with anyone who has a 64/65 Malibu SS. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] headers for small block
I am wanting to put new headers on my chevy 350 and i was wondering what would be the best kind. I have straight plugs and i am looking for a pair that aren't gonna burn up my wires. If anyone knows anything please tell me. thanks dave _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s
Call or e-mail American Racing at www.americanracing.com. If anyone would know, they would. Mark
RE: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s
I tried that. The website doesn't exactly encourage you to contact them. All they seem to want to do is give you a dealer to contact. We'll see if the email address I tried works or not. Thanks for the response. Is it me or does it seem that there are very few choices out there when you're shopping for a wheel in 15x8 with 4.5 inch backspacing. Hm Lance -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200sCall or e-mail American Racing at www.americanracing.com. If anyone would know, they would. Mark
RE: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s
I dont believe American Racing offers custom offset wheels. They are more a general wheel maker. If you find a place like Budnik they will make custom offsets but they mostly set wheels above 15 but they may have some. Check their website out at www.budnik.com. They have some great stuff. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 2:34 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s I tried that. The website doesn't exactly encourage you to contact them. All they seem to want to do is give you a dealer to contact. We'll see if the email address I tried works or not. Thanks for the response. Is it me or does it seem that there are very few choices out there when you're shopping for a wheel in 15x8 with 4.5 inch backspacing. Hm Lance -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s Call or e-mail American Racing at www.americanracing.com. If anyone would know, they would. Mark
Re: [Chevelle-List] headers for small block
I have a 350 in my 86 Cutlass. I put the Dynomax Ceramacoat headers on it and they work out nicely. You have to use the 90 degree plug boots on it. Cost abot $210. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Do you have a 64 SS?
Hi Tom I have a 65SS Malibu, Phil from Milwaukee
RE: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS
Daytona blue is #916 and correct for 64 Chevelles. It wasn't (and still isn't) uncommon to not offer all colors across model lines. For 64 Chevelles, there were three colors of blue, #912-Silver blue; #916-Daytona blue; and #918-Azure blue. See http://cobradeuce.com/CatalogPages-USA/1964ChevroletChevelle.htmfor the colors themselves. Dale McIntoshACES #1709/TC #92 Gold67 SS/67 Elkyhttp://www.dalesplace.comhttp://www.team67.comhttp://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 8:07 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS In a message dated 4/8/02 10:18:27 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The diplomat blue paint with clear Thanks, I appreciate that. I talked to a painter here, who has done a lot of old cars, and he uses Urethanes, not enamel or laquer. What I am not sure of now is the color. There is a GM Color #916 Daytona Blue Metallic and the Diplomat Blue paint both listed as on 64 Cars. I want to put on it the original color I had back in early 70's, but can't tell from the chips which it was. So I'm wondering if anyone knows why the #916 is not on the 64 color chip chart, but is listed as a 64 GM Color on another chart including the SS Models.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn
WOW!! People get out of your way when you're in the fast lane Apparently you don't live in Cleveland... Dan McIntosh
RE: [Chevelle-List] Horn
There's a slow lane in Cleveland? :*) Dale McIntosh - no relation -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 5:17 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] HornWOW!! People get out of your way when you're in the fast lane Apparently you don't live in Cleveland... Dan McIntosh
RE: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s
The only wheels I know of that ARE offers custom offsets are the Torq-Thrust II, series 405 - not the 505 series which are standard offsets. Go to their website at http://www.americanracing.com. Click the 3rd icon across the top (a wheel), select Vintage on the left side, then the second page [2]. They've changed their site a bit. They used to show ALL offsets and backspacing for each wheel (they did a few months ago when I bought my 17 ARE 200S) - including the TTII series 405 - but, apparently, not any more. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wurzbacher, Lance Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:43 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s Anybody been able to custom order these wheels with non-standard backspacing? My wheel guy says you only can get them the way they show in the catalog (which is 4 backspacing). I'm trying to buy 15x8's with 4.5 backspacing. Lance - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS
Hello That is what I thought too Dale, but then I saw this Color Chip sheet online. Look at # 873 Diplomat Blue Metalic. http://www.chevelles.com/years/64/64paint.jpg Dale wrote: Daytona blue is #916 and correct for 64 Chevelles. It wasn't (and still isn't) uncommon to not offer all colors across model lines. For 64 Chevelles, there were three colors of blue, #912-Silver blue; #916-Daytona blue; and #918-Azure blue. See http://cobradeuce.com/CatalogPages-USA/1964ChevroletChevelle.htm for the colors themselves. Dale McIntosh ACES #1709/TC #92 Gold 67 SS/67 Elky http://www.dalesplace.com http://www.team67.com http://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message- From
RE: [Chevelle-List] 64 Malibu SS
The key is _GM of Canada_. While some have the same names and probably the same color, none of the codes match. In 64, GM of US used the three number code and not letter codes as in 65 and up. GM of US had 15 colors available, GM of Canada apparently had 18 colors. Diplomat Blue Metallic, Sunfire Red Metallic andSkyline Blue don't appear in the US paint availability charts. Dale Hello That is what I thought too Dale, but then I saw this Color Chip sheet online. Look at # 873 Diplomat Blue Metalic.http://www.chevelles.com/years/64/64paint.jpgDale wrote:Daytona blue is #916 and correct for 64 Chevelles. It wasn't (and still isn't) uncommon to not offer all colors across model lines. For 64 Chevelles, there were three colors of blue, #912-Silver blue; #916-Daytona blue; and #918-Azure blue. See http://cobradeuce.com/CatalogPages-USA/1964ChevroletChevelle.htm for the colors themselves.Dale McIntoshACES #1709/TC #92 Gold67 SS/67 Elkyhttp://www.dalesplace.comhttp://www.team67.comhttp://www.midwestchevelles.com -Original Message-From
Re: [Chevelle-List] American Racing 200s
Michael, American Racing has just released the a few rims that are listed in their AR-Custom Shop as 2 piece rims. You can actually specify your off set requirements to your application. They will make the rims based on your request in the custom shop. I am not sure how many styles they do this custom services with. I do know the Torq-Thrust II rims are offered in the 2 piece design. Dwaine 66SS
[Chevelle-List] Breakes
I want to pull all the parts i need of a nother car to put on my 68 chevelle but do not no make or years i can use. Some one once told me i chould go up to 1972 but not after that. Front breakes. Tim Deckard - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Do you have a 64 SS?
Hi Travis. A number of guys on this list have 64/65 Chevelles SS and Malibu's . Wayne 64 owner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 12:41 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Do you have a 64 SS? Hello Am interested in communicating with anyone who has a 64/65 Malibu SS. Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Brakes
Correct...any A-body up to and including 72 will bolt on. Just be sure to get all the pieces. Dale Subject: [Chevelle-List] Breakes I want to pull all the parts i need of a nother car to put on my 68 chevelle but do not no make or years i can use. Some one once told me i chould go up to 1972 but not after that. Front breakes. Tim Deckard - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] exhaust question
I am shopping for new headers and what are reducers and collectors? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Saginaw 4speed
Hello everyone I am just finishing a frame off on my 67 malibu and should have it running in about 3 weeks but when I bought the new Saginaw 4 speed I realized I let the shift arms that go in the side of the tranny go with the old transmission and I can't seem to find the shift rods about the only thing I have is the shift gate. Does anyone have any of these parts laying around they might be willing to part with or can anyone tell me where to find them? Everything I see in Year one,OPG, or Danchuk is for a Muncie and says Saginaw not available. Help I have waited a year to drive her and im missing about the only thing I can't run down and buy. Thanks Jeff 67 Malibu
Re: [Chevelle-List] exhaust question
At 11:39 PM 4/9/2002 -0500, you wrote: I am shopping for new headers and what are reducers and collectors? Collectors are where the four pipes go into one large one...the reducers bolt onto the end of the header collectors and then graduate to the exhaust pipe size. Kelly Jana Hanna www.hannawoodworks.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] headers for small block
Any headers will burn any wires. If your wires are getting burned, it sounds like they need to be re-routed. Wires are cheaper (and easier) to replace than headers. With that said, I'm happy with my Hedman 1 5/8 headers on my 406 and would recommend them. Inexpensive and durable (so far). I spent $90 a few years ago at Summit. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Hovanessian Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] headers for small block I am wanting to put new headers on my chevy 350 and i was wondering what would be the best kind. I have straight plugs and i am looking for a pair that aren't gonna burn up my wires. If anyone knows anything please tell me. thanks dave _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Horn
Of my two horns only one worked, and it sounded very weak. The weak sound coming from only one note horn was pretty sad. I found a pair at a junk yard, but they did not work either. So since I had two of each note to play with I started banging a totally dead one on the drive way and shaking the dirt out of it. I also blew compressed air into it and turned the screw back and forth. When I connected it to the battery I was suprised to hear some life squeak out of it. The more I banged it and shook it and blew it out and tweaked the screw, the stronger it got. Out of the four bad horns I ended up with a really strong high note and low note that sound great together. I have a strong chevelle horn now out of horns I got at a junk yard. Of course now I see they have them new, availible in catalouges. PaT
