Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question
According to my info: Chevrolet parts by the number by Paul Herd 1964-65 chevelle except el camino or convertible #3837537 or 9773003 usage: 1964-65 chevelle, except convertible, pickup or station wagon 1964-65 convertible #3837597 usage: 1964-65 chevelle convertible 1966-67 all but el camino or convertible #3837527 usage: 1966-67 chevelle, except convertible, station wagon, or pickup 1966-67 convertible #389 usage:1966-67 chevelle convertible 1966 el camino #3895 usage:1966 El Camino or chevelle station wagon 1967 el camino #3893329 usage: 1967 elcamino or chevelle station wagon 1968-70 (this book only goes to 70 but it will work to 72) #6263666 usage: 1968-72 chevelle hardtop, coupe, or convertible except Monte Carlo; 1968-72 buick skylark hardtop, coupe, or convertible except 400 or 455 CI, 1968-72 olds cutlass coupe, hardtop, or convertible: 1968-72 Pontiac tempest/lemans coupe,hardtop or convertible except 455 CI notes: sedan has a longer frame and will not interchange 1968-72 el camino #6263665 usage 1968-72 el camino or chevelle station wagon CHEVELLES ADP Hollander 64-65-66 2dr:sdn.,h.t.,4dr sdn h.t (66) / interchange #1210A 64-66 s.w 1209B 64-66 el camino (pickup) / interchange #1209B 67 sdn h.t. / interchange #1313 67 conv. / interchange #1314 67 s.w. el camino / interchange #1458 68-72 : el camino s.w. / interchange #1941 68-72 2 dr exc. el camino / interchange #1943 68-71 4 dr. sdn h.t. / interchange #1956 72 4 dr. sdn. h.t. / interchange #1942 note B fits A using GM part #3838043 trans. support assembly (cross member) as you can see there are many differences between the two books. this was the first i heard about 64 being different than 65.i have done many chevelle swaps over the years and take many things for granted. it seems many of the ones they show not working will work will very little modifications it really wouldn't be very funny to have one all powder coated and ready to drop a body on it and find out it isn't the right one. back to the original question. if you cut close to 4 inches off that el camino frame it will work on the chevelle. Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max?
Also I would like to know, Can you just put a SS Grille on a malibu? or does there need to be some mods? thanks. This 1968 Chevelle SS clone - the only thing wrong is that it has a malibu grille. - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? ok, heres the story. The motor came out of a 1966 Chevelle SS, as far as I know. it is supposely the 375 hp version. We just visited him today (I said we were going to yesterday, but he had plans) and we looked at the car, he put it up on the lift, and it had paint chips all under it. I concluded that it was 8 - 9 grand. But didn't say nothing, except to my dad, and he agreed with me (remember, the guy is asking 11,500). We took it out for a ride, and it felt very smooth, he said it has gas shocks, and I forget what company it was. There is a guy coming from ohio to look at it. my dad offered him 8500, and Shawn (the chevelle owner) said that after this guy from ohio, if he does not buy it, he will look to us. also, we found out from inside sources that Sean needs money BAD - I mean BAD! So I have a feeling that if the ohio guy doesn't buy it, we will. This car will be my daily driver. :-) Sorry, My mom's digital camera is at her work, and she just recently had surgery, so it will not be2 weeks until we get pictures - that is, if we get thecar. Also, If you didn't know, this is a malibu converted to a SS. Also, the tranny is a TH400R. How good of a transmission are they? I'll keep you updated on the car. :-) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Chad : tell us what motor it is? Also why don't you take some pictures of this "68 chevelle" that you found. I'm sure most of the list would like to see it. Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-5 rear end bearing
Hi guys, I'm going to put a T-5 this winter I think, does anybody know I have to shorten the driveshaft, I havea muncie 4spd now. If somebody have a T-5 laying around I would like to know the lenght from the mounting face to the bellhousingto the end of the trans. how do you guys change the axle bearing in the rear end? Ijust heat the end of the rear with the torch so it expands, but which tool do you use? I used to borrow a tool from a friend in Norway, I dont know the name but we used to call it, well. a wanker, Icant borrow it anymore (1600 miles away), have some of you had success using other tools ? Thanks ! Kind Regards André - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Also I would like to know, Can you just put a SS Grille on a malibu? or does there need to be some mods? thanks. This 1968 Chevelle SS clone - the only thing wrong is that it has a malibu grille. - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? ok, heres the story. The motor came out of a 1966 Chevelle SS, as far as I know. it is supposely the 375 hp version. We just visited him today (I said we were going to yesterday, but he had plans) and we looked at the car, he put it up on the lift, and it had paint chips all under it. I concluded that it was 8 - 9 grand. But didn't say nothing, except to my dad, and he agreed with me (remember, the guy is asking 11,500). We took it out for a ride, and it felt very smooth, he said it has gas shocks, and I forget what company it was. There is a guy coming from ohio to look at it. my dad offered him 8500, and Shawn (the chevelle owner) said that after this guy from ohio, if he does not buy it, he will look to us. also, we found out from inside sources that Sean needs money BAD - I mean BAD! So I have a feeling that if the ohio guy doesn't buy it, we will. This car will be my daily driver. :-) Sorry, My mom's digital camera is at her work, and she just recently had surgery, so it will not be2 weeks until we get pictures - that is, if we get thecar. Also, If you didn't know, this is a malibu converted to a SS. Also, the tranny is a TH400R. How good of a transmission are they? I'll keep you updated on the car. :-) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Chad : tell us what motor it is? Also why don't you take some pictures of this "68 chevelle" that you found. I'm sure most of the list would like to see it. Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-5 rear end bearing
I wouldn't heat the axle tube to remove it. You can use a slide hammer to pull it out, or get a long rod (like a broom handle), insert it into the opposite axle tube, and set it up against the bearing on the side you want to remove from. Then smack it with a big hammer a few times. it'll come right out. The bearings on the carrier must be pressed off/on. Be wary of the T5, they're known for breaking. TTC only rates them for V6 applications. good luck, Tigergutt wrote: Hi guys,I'm going to put a T-5 this winter I think, does anybody know I have to shorten the driveshaft, I have a muncie 4spd now.If somebody have a T-5 laying around I would like to know the lenght from the mounting face to the bellhousingto the end of the trans.how do you guys change the axle bearing in the rear end?I just heat the end of the rear with the torch so it expands, but which tool do you use?I used to borrow a tool from a friend in Norway, I dont know the name but we used to call it, well. a wanker, I cant borrow it anymore (1600 miles away), have some of you had success using other tools ?Thanks !Kind RegardsAndr - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Also I would like to know, Can you just put a SS Grille on a malibu? or does there need to be some mods? thanks. This 1968 Chevelle SS clone - the only thing wrong is that it has a malibu grille. - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? ok, heres the story. The motor came out of a 1966 Chevelle SS, as far as I know. it is supposely the 375 hp version. We just visited him today (I said we were going to yesterday, but he had plans) and we looked at the car, he put it up on the lift, and it had paint chips all under it. I concluded that it was 8 - 9 grand. But didn't say nothing, except to my dad, and he agreed with me (remember, the guy is asking 11,500). We took it out for a ride, and it felt very smooth, he said it has gas shocks, and I forget what company it was. There is a guy coming from ohio to look at it. my dad offered him 8500, and Shawn (the chevelle owner) said that after this guy from ohio, if he does not buy it, he will look to us. also, we found out from inside sources that Sean needs money BAD - I mean BAD! So I have a feeling that if the ohio guy doesn't buy it, we will. This car will be my daily driver. :-) Sorry, My mom's digital camera is at her work, and she just recently had surgery, so it will not be 2 weeks until we get pictures - that is, if we get the car. Also, If you didn't know, this is a malibu converted to a SS. Also, the tranny is a TH400R. How good of a transmission are they? I'll keep you updated on the car. :-) Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Chad : tell us what motor it is? Also why don't you take some pictures of this "68 chevelle" that you found. I'm sure most of the list would like to see it. Larry (z) -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 rocker panel molding
John, my '66 has the same holes and I think the rockers are original. The holes I think are from the die stamping. They are there for the die to grab onto to move it to the next stamping station. These parts are not made in one stamp of the die but a series of hits. The rocker molding clips have small holes drilled to screw the clip to. New rockers don't have these holes. You have to drill them. Or you can weld up the oval holes and have no rockers. Rich"66 MalibuACES # 5066 - Original Message - From: John C. Butler To: Chevelle-List@Chevelles. Net (E-mail) Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 66 rocker panel molding I need help, the rocker panel on my 66 have four pieces of metal that have a lip that look like they attached to the car then the rocker panels slip on top of them, the rocker panels have holes drilled in the bottom to attach to the underside, the body shop took everything off the car and all I have left is 6 large oval holes on each side, is there a insert that goes in the holes to screw the pieces of metal?The catalogs just list clips..doesn't look like clips will work...any comments and help would be appreciated. John B.
Re: [Chevelle-List] T-5 rear end bearing
Whoops, of course the broom handle trick only works if you've removed the carrier. :-) Michael Pell wrote: I wouldn't heat the axle tube to remove it. You can use a slide hammer to pull it out, or get a long rod (like a broom handle), insert it into the opposite axle tube, and set it up against the bearing on the side you want to remove from. Then smack it with a big hammer a few times. it'll come right out. The bearings on the carrier must be pressed off/on. Be wary of the T5, they're known for breaking. TTC only rates them for V6 applications. good luck, Tigergutt wrote: Hi guys, I'm going to put a T-5 this winter I think, does anybody know I have to shorten the driveshaft, I have a muncie 4spd now. If somebody have a T-5 laying around I would like to know the lenght from the mounting face to the bellhousingto the end of the trans. how do you guys change the axle bearing in the rear end?I just heat the end of the rear with the torch so it expands, but which tool do you use?I used to borrow a tool from a friend in Norway, I dont know the name but we used to call it, well. a wanker, I cant borrow it anymore (1600 miles away), have some of you had success using other tools ? Thanks ! Kind Regards Andr - Original Message - From:Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 12:43 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Also I would like to know, Can you just put a SS Grille on a malibu? or does there need to be some mods? thanks. This 1968 Chevelle SS clone - the only thing wrong is that it has a malibu grille. - Original Message - From:Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? ok, heres the story. The motor came out of a 1966 Chevelle SS, as far as I know. it is supposely the 375 hp version. We just visited him today (I said we were going to yesterday, but he had plans) and we looked at the car, he put it up on the lift, and it had paint chips all under it. I concluded that it was 8 - 9 grand. But didn't say nothing, except to my dad, and he agreed with me (remember, the guy is asking 11,500). We took it out for a ride, and it felt very smooth, he said it has gas shocks, and I forget what company it was. There is a guy coming from ohio to look at it. my dad offered him 8500, and Shawn (the chevelle owner) said that after this guy from ohio, if he does not buy it, he will look to us. also, we found out from inside sources that Sean needs money BAD - I mean BAD! So I have a feeling that if the ohio guy doesn't buy it, we will. This car will be my daily driver. :-) Sorry, My mom's digital camera is at her work, and she just recently had surgery, so it will not be 2 weeks until we get pictures - that is, if we get the car. Also, If you didn't know, this is a malibu converted to a SS. Also, the tranny is a TH400R. How good of a transmission are they? I'll keep you updated on the car. :-) Chad - Original Message - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max? Chad : tell us what motor it is? Also why don't you take some pictures of this "68 chevelle" that you found. I'm sure most of the list would like to see it. Larry (z) -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377
[Chevelle-List] ?on a relay
i have a 71 chevelle 350 im missing a tcs relay but not sure what it's used for if anyone can give some pointers that would be cool joe
[Chevelle-List] LED Taillights - Update
Hi Guys, We have had many requests fora '68 Chevelle LED taillight kit. We are happy to announce that it is now available for $99.95. Please give us a call if you are interested. On a related note, we are looking to buy taillight housings and lenses for both the '66, '69and '71 Chevelles. Condition is not important to us as we only use the housings to design the specific brackets to mount our LED arrays. Please let us know by e-mail or call us should you have an extra one of these housings you would want to sell. Thanks, Todd Technostalgia www.cool-leds.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 812-265-0062 Free fax: 877-682-4909
RE: [Chevelle-List] ?on a relay
Isn't that the solenoid that kicks the throttle open a little bit under a few circumstances like 1) when the air conditioning is turned on 2) when shutting the car off to avoid dieseling. The 400 that was in my '70 when I got it (which came from a '72 Caprice) had a solenoid like that on it, although my car did not have A/C. -Dave -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 9:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] ?on a relayi have a 71 chevelle 350 im missing a tcs relay but not sure what it's used for if anyone can give some pointers that would be cool joe
Re: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?
Thanks for all the help guys, it turns out that this corvette looked good from the road but drove like a hay rack the paint was very poor. Looked as though all the quarters where worked on at one time or another (they had approx. 2 inch wide seam that wasn't blended very well. Needless to say I passed on this one. Thanks for your very informative feedback! Dan In a message dated 9/16/02 7:01:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Way to much, I've been asked to help restore a 76, in great condition and the best price might be 6,500. with under 10 miles. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Youngblood, Skip (TK at Alcoa) Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:45 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? That is on the high side. Look at the Corvette trader found at any local gas stop. Skip 68SCBB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? Can any of you help me. I have a chance to purchase a 77 corvette but have little knowledge of them. (always been a chevelle guy). So, it looks to be in good to average condition the guy is asking 7500. It has a crack in the hood where the fan hit the underside (apparently the water pump went out on his son caused the damage) To me this sound like a good price But I really don't know about vet's. Any thing I should be looking for as I test drive this? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan
Re: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?
may I ask where you live? I went to see a 77 corvette about7 months ago, and it was advertised at 8 grand, it was silver, and looked goregous, but handled like crap. When you would jump on it, the sides would twist, scary! it wsa the L82 option. I live in PA. Chad - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth? Thanks for all the help guys, it turns out that this corvette looked good from the road but drove like a hay rack the paint was very poor. Looked as though all the quarters where worked on at one time or another (they had approx. 2 inch wide seam that wasn't blended very well. Needless to say I passed on this one. Thanks for your very informative feedback!DanIn a message dated 9/16/02 7:01:59 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Way to much, I've been asked to help restore a 76, in great condition and the best price might be 6,500. with under 10 miles. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Youngblood, Skip (TK at Alcoa)Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 6:45 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?That is on the high side. Look at the Corvette trader found at any local gas stop.Skip 68SCBB -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 6:35 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?Can any of you help me. I have a chance to purchase a 77 corvette but have little knowledge of them. (always been a chevelle guy). So, it looks to be in good to average condition the guy is asking 7500. It has a crack in the hood where the fan hit the underside (apparently the water pump went out on his son caused the damage) To me this sound like a good price But I really don't know about vet's. Any thing I should be looking for as I test drive this?Any help greatly appreciated.Thanks, Dan
Re: [Chevelle-List] 77 corvette worth?
This was in dallas was white. I guess you have to check them out good before you buy.
Re: [Chevelle-List] Redline - the max?
it's the same exact grill. it just has an SS emblem on it and is blacked out
[Chevelle-List] Help with Ebay car sales
It seems that I remember someone on the list was offering to help others with selling a car on ebay. If that is you, would you email me? I still have my 67 Camaro for sale, and am going to put it up on ebay. thanks, -- Check out my webpage at http://www.ProStreetCar.com and my For Sale page at http://www.ProStreetCar.com/classifieds.html TREMEC Distributor at http://www.5speedTransmissions.com Team Chevelle member #1778 (Gold), ACES member #1377 - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question
Larry, thanks for all the numbers. For the most part numbers by Paul Herd matches the GM parts catalog I have but not 100%. You'll note a discrepancy between Paul Herd and Hollander regarding 66 and 67 convertibles. I believe Hollander is correct. I've spent the last 2 years trying to find just the right frame to put under my 64 convertible. Crawled under a lot of cars and checked frame part numbers versus the GM book. So far it is bang on. As I said originally the dimensions and mounting points are all the same from 64 thru 67. The differences are the lack of a slight indent in 64 and the different spring pocket in 67. Convertibles and el caminos are boxed thru the center section and coupes and station wagons are C shaped. While the differences exist they do not preclude using any year frame under any year body. Just change the springs if using a 67 under a 64 thru 66. By the way, the part number is stamped in the left outside of the frame ahead of the rear bumper bracket attaching slots. You'll also find the manufacturer and date. The difference in length of the coupe/convertible versus the station wagon/el camino is 3.17 inches. Ted You can find the dimensions in any shop manual or factory assembly manual. The 3.xx inches I referred to last night is expressed as 3.17 inches in some diagrams and 3 3/16 in others From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:17:01 EDT According to my info: Chevrolet parts by the number by Paul Herd 1964-65 chevelle except el camino or convertible #3837537 or 9773003 usage: 1964-65 chevelle, except convertible, pickup or station wagon 1964-65 convertible #3837597 usage: 1964-65 chevelle convertible 1966-67 all but el camino or convertible #3837527 usage: 1966-67 chevelle, except convertible, station wagon, or pickup 1966-67 convertible #389 usage:1966-67 chevelle convertible 1966 el camino #3895 usage:1966 El Camino or chevelle station wagon 1967 el camino #3893329 usage: 1967 elcamino or chevelle station wagon 1968-70 (this book only goes to 70 but it will work to 72) #6263666 usage: 1968-72 chevelle hardtop, coupe, or convertible except Monte Carlo; 1968-72 buick skylark hardtop, coupe, or convertible except 400 or 455 CI, 1968-72 olds cutlass coupe, hardtop, or convertible: 1968-72 Pontiac tempest/lemans coupe,hardtop or convertible except 455 CI notes: sedan has a longer frame and will not interchange 1968-72 el camino #6263665 usage 1968-72 el camino or chevelle station wagon CHEVELLES ADP Hollander 64-65-66 2dr:sdn.,h.t.,4dr sdn h.t (66) / interchange #1210A 64-66 s.w 1209B 64-66 el camino (pickup) / interchange #1209B 67 sdn h.t. / interchange #1313 67 conv. / interchange #1314 67 s.w. el camino / interchange #1458 68-72 : el camino s.w. / interchange #1941 68-72 2 dr exc. el camino / interchange #1943 68-71 4 dr. sdn h.t. / interchange #1956 72 4 dr. sdn. h.t. / interchange #1942 note B fits A using GM part #3838043 trans. support assembly (cross member) as you can see there are many differences between the two books. this was the first i heard about 64 being different than 65.i have done many chevelle swaps over the years and take many things for granted. it seems many of the ones they show not working will work will very little modifications it really wouldn't be very funny to have one all powder coated and ready to drop a body on it and find out it isn't the right one. back to the original question. if you cut close to 4 inches off that el camino frame it will work on the chevelle. Larry (z) _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question
Ted: 3.17 exactly? wow its finally nice to hear a true number. i have been told by many it was 4 inches. I'm in the process of buying either a convertible or el camino frame for my 65. i want the convert but damn they want 500 for it and i can pick up the el camino frame for a 100. my plans are to cut it and have it powered coated (customer owns a coating company) before swapping. do you think this is a bad idea? i really don't want to do a frame swap until its finished. do you know of anywhere that shows the exact measurements? in 1970 my buddy and i bought a wrecked el camino with bad frame damage. we had a 68 chevelle frame and we cut and spliced the frame where the frame rails turned in. i wonder if we wouldnt have been better off sectioning the back half of the elkie frame onto the chevelle frame? Larry (z)
Re: [Chevelle-List] New Chevelle club forming in South-West Ohio
How bout Tri-State Chevelles? Don Dwight, I was wondering if we might get some Eastern Southern Indiana interest and maybe some Northern Kentucky interest as well. Since Dayton and Cinci are so close to the borders I can see where members of the tri-state area might be interested. H might have to reconsider the boundaries as well as the name. Any suggestions on how to include more guys like yourself and make them feel welcome? Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
