RE: [Chevelle-List] Steve answer to your shift hump
Thanks to everyone for the quick and informative answers on the shifter hump. Looks like I got the right one from the photo. I've had my Chevelle since 1987, but I've only been on the list server for a week. Thanks to everyone for making this such a beneficial site for getting answers. Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection
Brian, I'm no expert, but it almost sounds like you're splitting hairs. You mention the car being a daily driver, so I'm gonna assume you're not drag racing it much. Adding .015-inch of lift is going to be difficult to feel in the seat of your pants. Have you thought about switching to 1.6 rockers instead? If you have .440 lift now with stock (1.5) rockers, swapping to 1.6 rockers will take you up to .469 lift ( (.440 / 1.5) * 1.6). This also adds a few degrees of duration. A *much* easier swap than a cam. I dont think you'll really want a cam with more than .470 lift and ~225 degrees duration (@ .050") with a stock converter. You should be able to get away with stock valve springs in all of these cases. Don't quote me on that last part, though. You have a pretty well-matched combo for low-mid torque. Carb tuning (using a dragstrip or dyno to verify your results) can make a noticeable difference in power and mileage if you haven't done so. It's not glorious like a new cam, but it can be just as rewarding in the end. As an aside, I was just at the dragstrip this past sunday and a friend was there with his 90's LT-1 Roadmaster station wagon. He upgraded the exhaust which killed the good low-end torque he had (motor is stock, except for slightly modded air box). To remedy that, he changed the torque converter to one from a S-10 application (he estimated 2000-2100 stall, versus 1200-1300 stock -- no tach to truly verify these numbers.) and picked up .8 seconds in his quarter mile time and +5 MPH (it was also only in the high 40s, low 50s temperature-wise). If you're not familiar with quarter mile times, that's a *big* improvement. Getting the engine up into it's torque band quicker makes all the difference in the world. As another personal aside, I ran my quickest and fastest on Sunday with my 406-powered '70 -- 12.70 @ 107. I was pretty happy about that. If there's one good thing about Ohio, it's low ETs in October! :-) Torque rules! -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle-list@;chevelles.net]On Behalf Of Brian Zack Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:28 PM To: Chevelle List (E-mail) Subject: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection What is the largest cam any of you are running in a daily driver with a small block 350. I have a '70 Chevelle Malibu with a 350 4-bolt main, cast pistons, 9:1 compression stock heads, edlebrock performer manifold edlebrock 600 cfm carb, 1 5/8" headers, and dual 2" exhaust. It also has the stock stall converter and I think either 2:73 ot 3:07 gears ( I have to verify that) Right now I have a crane energizer 266H which is 266 duration and .440 lift. I am going to be changing to a larger cam and was wondering what max. size anyone might recommend. I was thinking of of the crane energizer w/ .467 lift or the crane energizer with .454 lift. But, I dont think the smaller one would give me that much of a difference. I think I would have to change my springs though and probably the converter. Has anyone used a larger cam and not upped the converter? I would assume it would probably hurt mileage and not have that great of low speed torque. Any recommendations? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Steve answer to your shift hump
Steve, Since my 69 has the interior completely out, I thought I would stroll to the garage and answer your question. Mine is a factory original, unmolested 4 spd. car. Hole size 2 5/8 by 7 3/4. Hole is rectangular and centered on top of the hump. 69 and 70 humps and consoles (give or take a few cosmetics on the console) are the same, so it sounds like your in business. Trooper Stephen Lentz wrote: > > Im sorry to piggy-back on your topic, but I can't seem to send a new message > to the server- I keep getting a returned mail- rejection error message. > > I have a 70 SS454 with a Muncie-M21. Like many cars that have seen better > days, my shifter hump is pretty much a big hole. I just ordered a > replacement shifter hump (with console) from Ausley's Chevelle parts (item > SH682W). > I ordered on line because I don't have any catalogs from anybody. I got > the hump today, but I'm not sure if it is the right one for my car. I > envisioned the hump as having a relatively square hole for the shifter, but > the one that arrived had a long, narrow rectangular hole about 2 1/2" wide > by 8" long. To me it seems like it is an automatic hump. Additionally, the > opening appears to be centered along the top of the hump. The online > catalog doesn't specify between auto and manual, it only specifies "1968-72 > Shifter Humps w/console- $64.95" > My car and the console are at the shop and I can't get to them to do a > "test fit". If anybody has any info about this, please let me know at > '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Hopefully it works for both autos and manuals. > > Thanks, > Steve > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Pics from Bristol...
I'm back and the Elky is no worse for the wear. Below is a link to the pictures I took while at the Bristol Bash 2002. My wife and I had a great time, made some new friends and saw some old friends too. http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/bristol2002.htm cYa- Herb Lumpp1966 El CaminoACES 3509, MCC 528http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/
Re: [Chevelle-List] Media Blast material
Actually Steve, I have used it for body parts but I feel its a bit too abrasive to do a car body. You would need to be real careful not to warp any metal and would need a good primer filler to take out the mild texture this abrasive leaves. For the frame it's great. Cuts through rust like butter. For the body I would use plastic, walnut shells or glass beads (in that order). These can all be used in a conventional blaster. Sorry I only know what I've read about dry ice and baking soda so can't recommend them. Maybe some of the other guys who mentioned these types of media can help you more with them. Trooper Chevelle 69 wrote: > > Trooper, > What do you use this on? Is it safe for use on the body? Just > the frame? > > Steve > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:owner-chevelle-list@;chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Trooper > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:12 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Media Blast material > > Joe, > If it's the black slag I use it's coal slag (brand name Black Beauty) > not copper slag. > > Trooper > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Media Blast material
Im sorry to piggy-back on your topic, but I can't seem to send a new message to the server- I keep getting a returned mail- rejection error message. I have a 70 SS454 with a Muncie-M21. Like many cars that have seen better days, my shifter hump is pretty much a big hole. I just ordered a replacement shifter hump (with console) from Ausley's Chevelle parts (item SH682W). I ordered on line because I don't have any catalogs from anybody. I got the hump today, but I'm not sure if it is the right one for my car. I envisioned the hump as having a relatively square hole for the shifter, but the one that arrived had a long, narrow rectangular hole about 2 1/2" wide by 8" long. To me it seems like it is an automatic hump. Additionally, the opening appears to be centered along the top of the hump. The online catalog doesn't specify between auto and manual, it only specifies "1968-72 Shifter Humps w/console- $64.95" My car and the console are at the shop and I can't get to them to do a "test fit". If anybody has any info about this, please let me know at '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'. Hopefully it works for both autos and manuals. Thanks, Steve - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection
I ran the 266/272 on a special centerline of 110. I then had the same cam on 108 C/L. To make a long story short, I was given a motor with the 262H cam on 112 centerline camshaft.All these grinds are from Crane Cams. The 262H has performed the best. I have same motor just forged pistons and a 2.50 or 2.73 read ratio. The larger cams did not run better because I needed to make other changes to the motor, which I did not and did not want to. I believe the real problem was the 2.5 rear ratio, poor heads( stock), converter in transmission (automatic). I would not go bigger on the cam unless you are ready to do other work and money. Bigger cams do not keep making the car go faster. Everything must work together to make it happen. I worked in the Crane Engineering dept. for many years, but still made the wrong camshaft selection on my car. Keith Cooper - Original Message - From: "Brian Zack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chevelle List (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:28 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection > What is the largest cam any of you are running in a daily driver with a > small block 350. I have a '70 Chevelle Malibu with a 350 4-bolt main, > cast pistons, 9:1 compression stock heads, edlebrock performer manifold > edlebrock 600 cfm carb, 1 5/8" headers, and dual 2" exhaust. It also has the > stock stall converter and I think either 2:73 ot 3:07 gears ( I have to > verify that) Right now I have a crane energizer 266H which is 266 duration > and .440 lift. I am going to be changing to a larger cam and was wondering > what max. size anyone might recommend. I was thinking of of the crane > energizer w/ .467 lift or the crane energizer with .454 lift. But, I dont > think the smaller one would give me that much of a difference. I think I > would have to change my springs though and probably the converter. Has > anyone used a larger cam and not upped the converter? I would assume it > would probably hurt mileage and not have that great of low speed torque. Any > recommendations? > > Brian Zack > '70 Chevelle Malibu > mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com > > > > > - > To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html > To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection
Great! I'm looking forward to seeing what cam specs you have. Did you have to change the stock valve springs? Thanks. Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:MICRLASER@;aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection Brian, the setup I have in my 86 Cutlass works out very well with the stock converter. I will email you my cam specs when I get home. The motor in that car is a 69 350 block, stock heads, 9.5:1 CR, same headers you have, but i run 2 1/4" duals on the Cutlass and I also have a 3.42 rear ratio. It was enough to push the car well into the mid-low 14's at the track on street tires. I pretty much have the biggest cam you can get away woth when using a stock converter, anything more would start making it slip and lose vacuum, and I'm not sure about anyone else, but I like my power brakes working :-). Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection
Brian, the setup I have in my 86 Cutlass works out very well with the stock converter. I will email you my cam specs when I get home. The motor in that car is a 69 350 block, stock heads, 9.5:1 CR, same headers you have, but i run 2 1/4" duals on the Cutlass and I also have a 3.42 rear ratio. It was enough to push the car well into the mid-low 14's at the track on street tires. I pretty much have the biggest cam you can get away woth when using a stock converter, anything more would start making it slip and lose vacuum, and I'm not sure about anyone else, but I like my power brakes working :-). Tom - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] SBC Cam selection
What is the largest cam any of you are running in a daily driver with a small block 350. I have a '70 Chevelle Malibu with a 350 4-bolt main, cast pistons, 9:1 compression stock heads, edlebrock performer manifold edlebrock 600 cfm carb, 1 5/8" headers, and dual 2" exhaust. It also has the stock stall converter and I think either 2:73 ot 3:07 gears ( I have to verify that) Right now I have a crane energizer 266H which is 266 duration and .440 lift. I am going to be changing to a larger cam and was wondering what max. size anyone might recommend. I was thinking of of the crane energizer w/ .467 lift or the crane energizer with .454 lift. But, I dont think the smaller one would give me that much of a difference. I think I would have to change my springs though and probably the converter. Has anyone used a larger cam and not upped the converter? I would assume it would probably hurt mileage and not have that great of low speed torque. Any recommendations? Brian Zack '70 Chevelle Malibu mailto:brianz@;dpsabq.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Chevelle-List] Media Blast material
Trooper, What do you use this on? Is it safe for use on the body? Just the frame? Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-chevelle-list@;chevelles.net] On Behalf Of Trooper Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Media Blast material Joe, If it's the black slag I use it's coal slag (brand name Black Beauty) not copper slag. Trooper - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] inter fender splash shield
Vernon, If your talking about the clips that attach the A-arm dust shields, don't use them. Go to a craft store and buy some craft wire. Cut it to the length of the staples and use it. It bends much easier and will hold for ever. Learned this from a professional restorer at Chevellabration. You will also need a very small drill bit to pre drill the holes regardless of the fastener you use. Trooper > vmckague wrote: > > I have some new splash shields for my elky and am going to try and > install them this weekend. Has anyone ever put any of these on a car. > I see they come with some small clips that look like staples. Any > ideas on how to install them. > Vernon - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Media Blast material
Joe, If it's the black slag I use it's coal slag (brand name Black Beauty) not copper slag. Trooper - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] inter fender splash shield
I have some new splash shields for my elky and am going to try and install them this weekend. Has anyone ever put any of these on a car. I see they come with some small clips that look like staples. Any ideas on how to install them. Vernon
