RE: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread John Nasta









Well,
maybe that wasn't the ultimate intent behind the design, but if you have ever
been to a Figure 8 track, you know what happens.

 

OTOH,
Figure H racing is much safer.

 

Think
about it.

 

John Nasta

 

 

 

-Original
Message-



Actually the X isn't
designed to make the exhaust gasses "collide."  The two links
below will explain the theory behind the X pipe with comparisons to a
traditional H pipe.

 

http://www.drgas.com/art-sync.html

 

http://www.drgas.com/art-syncronicity.html

 

 








Re: [Chevelle-list] bare metal (use metal prep or sand?)

2003-10-30 Thread MICRLASER



In a message dated 10/30/2003 10:56:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Now you really got me confused.Wipe the metal off, before you use the metal prep?On the tech sheet for metal prep is says to rinse the metal with water after metal prep to nutralize the prep.Also the 2 part epoxy primer system, Do you have any brands or numbers for this kind of primer?Do you shoot it on at one time? ( the 2 part epoxy primer system) or is it 2 seperate coats. One of etch primer & one of epoxy primer?
Here are some steps to follow
 
Wipe the car off with a wet towel
Wipe it down with the metal prep
Wipe it again with a wet towel
Wipe dry with a clean terry cloth
Shoot it with the primer 
 
You will have to get the primer from an automotive paint supplier.  I prefer either PPG or Dupont materials.  Sikkens is a good product also.  All you really need to do is go to the paint store and talk to the guys there.  They can set you up with everything you need.  Just be prepared to spend a few dollars to get all the materials.  


[Chevelle-list] my 65 chevelle

2003-10-30 Thread Jason Boivin
Hey all,

Due to hard times I need to sell my 65. It pains me to do it but I am really
desparate.
I am only asking 1200 to get pay for everything I have in it.

Jason Boivin

http://home.wizard.org/twchevelle/




Re: [Chevelle-list] bare metal (use metal prep or sand?)

2003-10-30 Thread KNUTSONChevelle
In a message dated 10/30/03 9:36:04 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The self etching primer is the first part of the 2 part epoxy primer system.  It etches the metal and allows you to do the body work over it instead of on bare metal.  Body filler actually sticks better to it than bare metal.  Use the metal prep after wiping it off with a damp cloth to get all of the contaminants off otherwise you may get spots in which the primer will separate.  Think of the old trick putting soap in a bowl of water with pepper flakes in it.  That is what will happen.  I have had it happen many times for unkown reasons.
  
Tom


Now you really got me confused.
Wipe the metal off, before you use the metal prep?
On the tech sheet for metal prep is says to rinse the metal with water after metal prep to nutralize the prep.
Also the 2 part epoxy primer system, Do you have any brands or numbers for this kind of primer?
Do you shoot it on at one time? ( the 2 part epoxy primer system) or is it 2 seperate coats. One of etch primer & one of epoxy primer?


Re: [Chevelle-list] bare metal (use metal prep or sand?)

2003-10-30 Thread MICRLASER


The self etching primer is the first part of the 2 part epoxy primer system.  It etches the metal and allows you to do the body work over it instead of on bare metal.  Body filler actually sticks better to it than bare metal.  Use the metal prep after wiping it off with a damp cloth to get all of the contaminants off otherwise you may get spots in which the primer will separate.  Think of the old trick putting soap in a bowl of water with pepper flakes in it.  That is what will happen.  I have had it happen many times for unkown reasons.
 
Tom


Re: [Chevelle-list] bare metal (use metal prep or sand?)

2003-10-30 Thread KNUTSONChevelle
In a message dated 10/30/03 5:45:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My chevelle is down to bare metal. I have striped &sanded it this summer in my garage. I want to prime it to seal it from moister. 
Should I use metal prep or not?
Some say yes because of microscopic rust. Others like my nieghbor say no, "We never used it years ago, why do we need it?)
I'm not to crazy about rinsing my bare metal with water (that what the directions for metal prep say to do)
Anyone have any info on this?
Thanks! 

Take a cloth with a bucket of water and wipe it off and dry it.  It will not make it rust right away.  I left both of my Chevelles in bare metal for months at a time while in the garage up on the rotisserie.  Go to a paint store and get some self etching primer/2 part epoxy primer.  This will seal it and keep the rust off it.
  
Tom


Thanks Tom, 
but what is self etching primer/2 part epoxy primer. 
Is this 2 different primers or just one called, self etching primer/2 part epoxy primer.
Also is that to say you agree with using the metal prep? You  can just wipe it off with a damp rag?
Sorry if I sound ignorant.


[Chevelle-list] Wanted: Chevelle Photos

2003-10-30 Thread Dale McIntosh
Title: Message




Wanted:
Quality digital photos of the following cars in colors 
shown.  Photos will be used on my 
ChevelleStuff website as an example of the color for that particular year.  Your name will be listed ONLY if you ok 
it.  Otherwise, only the car and 
color will be shown.  Car can be 
convertible, hardtop, hardtop w/vinyl top, wagon, etc., it makes no difference 
to me.  Anyone with an authentic 
(even if repainted) two-tone Chevelle is also invited (encouraged) to send any 
digital photos.
 
Backgrounds should be free of clutter, shaded trees, etc. 
for best color display.
 
1964:
905 ~ Meadow Green, 908 ~ Bahama Green, 912 ~ Silver Blue, 
920 ~ Almond Fawn, 936 ~ Ermine White, 938 ~ Desert Beige, 940 ~ Satin 
Silver
 
1965:
J ~ Cypress Green, V ~ Cameo Beige, W 
~ Glacier Gray
 
1966:
D ~ Mist Blue, H ~ 
Willow Green, V ~ Cameo 
Beige
 
1967:
S ~ Sierra Fawn
 
1968:
T ~ Palomino Ivory ~ V ~ Sequoia Green
 
1969:
63 ~ Champagne
 
1971:
43 ~ Lime Green, 61 ~ Sandalwood, 62 ~ Burnt 
Orange, 67 ~ Classic Copper, 78 ~ 
Rosewood
 
1972:
24 ~ Ascot Blue, 53 ~ Placer Gold, 
68 ~ Midnight Bronze
 
Dale McIntosh TC Gold 
#92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 
Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding 
info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information 



[Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series > Big Block = 70's !

2003-10-30 Thread Cecil \"Steve\" Martin



I 
talked to the sales manager that was at CB03 about this in depth ...he asked a 
lot of questions about my car,but basically it came down to making sure the 
mufflers matched the need. For a big block he recommended the 70's. He seemed to 
think they would have a better flow to handle a big block output. Those baby's 
are huge. Bought a pair but not on yet. 
 
I have 
also read that you don't want to go too big on the pipes.for a street car 
big block everything I read said 2.5 is the way to go. Not if you have a strip 
car strictly performance/highly modified...then maybe go 3 inches, but I 
have read where too large for a street engine will cause a loss in 
torque.
 
My 396 
will get the 70's and 2.5 inch pipe with an X pipe up front.which 
unfortunately at last check Flowmaster didn't make or sell.
 
  
Steve

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:07 
  PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: 
  [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow 
  series
  yea, there is 4 inches diff. in the two 
  sizes,   the motor is a stock 396 with hooker headers, the exhaust 
  on it now is "original" and has a few holes in the pipes behind the 
  mufflers.  also the exhaust will run out the back to the bumper a full 
  system.., no turn downs.  I will prob. stay with the 30's, buy the 
  way I am looking at a  2.5in system. 
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
John 
Nasta 
To: The Chevelle Mailing List 

Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:21 
PM
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 
Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series


The 
biggest difference between the 30 and 40 series is the physical dimensions 
of the muffler itself. 50 series are the same physical size as the 30 
series, but are quieter. I have 50s on a SBC and they sound great IMO. I am 
glad I didn’t get the louder ones.
 
John 
Nasta
 
 
 
-Original 
Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:52 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 
30 series or 40 delta flow series
 
on 
their system guide they recommend the 30 series for chevelle, GTO/lemans, 
buick gs and the  40 delta flow for a camaro, mustang, 
firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs I know have small 
blocks, my chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 40's on 
it.  How does it sound, flowmaster only gives SB examples on their web 
site. thanks. 


Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread MICRLASER


I have a sound bite of my 454's exhaust with 40 series flows and the H-pipe.  Email me if anyone wants it.
 
Tom


Re: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread Bad66Chevelle454

Actually, on this subject.Popular Hot Rodding magazine did a test on this. They took a Olds 442, and tested all the different types. They made a removable piece, so it was all the same, and ran through the same mufflers. It produced the most HP with open headers, then the X-pipe, then H-pipe, then regular dual exhaust. I dont remember all the results, but I remember the H-pipe gave that car 15 more HP over the regular dual exhaust. I dont know if anybody has this issue or not. 
 
 

-Tim-1966 Chevelle 


Re: [Chevelle-list] right tape wrong tape?

2003-10-30 Thread the . cat
Title: Re: [Chevelle-list] right tape wrong
tape?


I used some electrical tape to patch some gaps in the old
wrapping, and it dd not work well.  After a few weeks, the
electrical tape became very sticky and 'slimy,' for lack of a better
word, and picked up dirt and grease like thre was no tomorrow. 
Perhaps if the electrical tape was in a sheltered place, away from
heat, it would have worked better.

I can't imagine that the wires care what sort of tape is used, so
go nuts!

Dave.


>One more question on the nonstick tape for the rewraping of
the harnesses.
Has anyone ever wrapped the old tape on the harnesses rather than
remove and install new tape?
Would leaving the old tape have any affect on the wiring?
That way I could leave the old tape and use regular black electrical
on top of the existing harness?
Maybe a stupid question.
Thanks
Joe
69 Chevelle


-- 

www.swingvictoria.com



Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread Bad66Chevelle454

I have a 454, with 40 series mufflers...2.5 inch exhaust, with a H-Pipe. I really like the sound, sounds clean and nice. They sound great at idle, but they really open up when you step on it. I do have it recorded, but its really distorted, and doesnt sound anything like it. I love the soundthe H-pipe helps in that its a even soundAny questions, feel free to ask. 
 
 

-Tim-1966 Chevelle 


Re: [Chevelle-list] right tape wrong tape?

2003-10-30 Thread ROTTYJOE
One more question on the nonstick tape for the rewraping of the harnesses.
Has anyone ever wrapped the old tape on the harnesses rather than remove and install new tape?
Would leaving the old tape have any affect on the wiring?
That way I could leave the old tape and use regular black electrical on top of the existing harness?
Maybe a stupid question.
Thanks 
Joe
69 Chevelle


RE: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread Matthew Post

thanks Herb!  now I'm really curious how they sound!
At 07:27 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
Actually
the X isn't designed to make the exhaust gasses
"collide."  The two links below will explain the theory
behind the X pipe with comparisons to a traditional H pipe.
 
http://www.drgas.com/art-sync.html
 
http://www.drgas.com/art-syncronicity.html
 
I have the Dr. Gas X crossover
on my El Camino and yes it does sound different, but I'm sure the Spin
Tech mufflers account for most of that.  However, a few years back I
had a '72 Corvette with a stock 350.  I added cheap Blackjack
headers and had a complete 3" exhaust built that used a Dr. Gas X
pipe and a pair of 3 chamber Flowmasters.  It sounded extremely
different from any Flowmaster equipped car I ever heard.  It had the
typical Flowmaster sound at idle, but once the rpm went up the pitch
changed and the trademark Flowmaster sound dissappeared.  I thought
it sounded so cool that I'd take out the back window whenever the weather
was good so I could hear it better while driving.
 
Herb Lumpp
http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Matthew Post
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:09 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

So does that make the X pipe a benefit by creating more back
pressure?  Also, I heard that the X pipe will have a different sound
than an H pipe.  Can anyone with an X pipe confirm that?

At 03:15 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:

The big difference is that the X pipe forces the gasses from both
sides to collide, whereas the H-pipe compensates for uneven pressure by
allowing a pass-through from the high-pressure side to the low-pressure
side. If your engine puts precisely the same amount of pressure into both
sides, it could be argued that the H pipe would not "do"
anything at all.
 
John Nasta
 
 
 




RE: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread Dale McIntosh
Just a thought, but I recently read of a car being stolen from a left
coast car show where the owner had taken the coil wire off as he was
touring the show field.  Someone simply stole a coil wire from another
car, put it on his and drove off...a $30,000 56 Nomad.

Personally, I like a fuel shutoff valve or a separate switch for an
electric pump.  It may allow the thief to get a block or two but then
stalls and dies.  Ususally they'll leave the car where it sits.  If
they're really after your car, they'll simply put it on a rollback and
be done with it.

Dale McIntosh

> Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring
> 
> 
> 
> I don't have an alarm system, locking hood mechanism or cut 
> off switch. However,  when leaving the car unattended for any 
> length of time, mall / restaurant and it's not in eye sight - 
> I have paranoid myself into taking the coil wire with me.
> 
> Krister Meister
> Bloomingdale, IL
> '66 SS #'s matching
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> John wrote:
> 
> Actually, I was thinking that it's a great way to make it 
> easy to steal the car.
> 
> 
> 
> John Nasta
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Malibu65 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> It's mounted
> in an inconspicuous place under the dash but within arms 
> reach. It goes from a good battery source, through the 
> switch, right to the starter solenoid.
> 
> 
> That's a good, cheap anti theft device too.  :-)))
> 
> BL
> 
> 
> 




RE: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread Herb Lumpp



Actually the X isn't designed to make the exhaust gasses "collide."  
The two links below will explain the theory behind the X pipe with comparisons 
to a traditional H pipe.
 
http://www.drgas.com/art-sync.html
 
http://www.drgas.com/art-syncronicity.html
 
I have 
the Dr. Gas X crossover on my El Camino and yes it does sound different, but I'm 
sure the Spin Tech mufflers account for most of that.  However, a few years 
back I had a '72 Corvette with a stock 350.  I added cheap Blackjack 
headers and had a complete 3" exhaust built that used a Dr. Gas X pipe and a 
pair of 3 chamber Flowmasters.  It sounded extremely different from any 
Flowmaster equipped car I ever heard.  It had the typical Flowmaster sound 
at idle, but once the rpm went up the pitch changed and the trademark Flowmaster 
sound dissappeared.  I thought it sounded so cool that I'd take 
out the back window whenever the weather was good so I could hear it 
better while driving.
 
Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Matthew 
  PostSent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:09 PMTo: The 
  Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X 
  pipeSo does that make the X pipe a benefit by creating 
  more back pressure?  Also, I heard that the X pipe will have a different 
  sound than an H pipe.  Can anyone with an X pipe confirm that?At 
  03:15 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
  The big difference is that the X pipe forces the gasses from both 
sides to collide, whereas the H-pipe compensates for uneven pressure by 
allowing a pass-through from the high-pressure side to the low-pressure 
side. If your engine puts precisely the same amount of pressure into both 
sides, it could be argued that the H pipe would not "do" anything at 
all. John 
Nasta   


Re: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread Jeff Wysocki



I had an "H" pipe on my 1968 396 bb 
and the "H" pipe evens out the pulses! OKAY I GUESS? I then put an "X" pipe and 
The sound is not a even, and the rumble is there (were it should be) as far as 
sound and vibration. I also installed "spin-tech race quite" mufflers. I love 
it! This sound is either "LOVE" or "HATE".
 
 Jeff Wysocki
 Brownstown Twp., 
Michigan
 1970 Chevelle SS
 1968 Chevelle 396

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Nasta 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:15 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X 
  pipe
  
  
  The 
  big difference is that the X pipe forces the gasses from both sides to 
  collide, whereas the H-pipe compensates for uneven pressure by allowing a 
  pass-through from the high-pressure side to the low-pressure side. If your 
  engine puts precisely the same amount of pressure into both sides, it could be 
  argued that the H pipe would not "do" anything at 
  all.
   
  John 
  Nasta
   
   
   


[Chevelle-list] Engine Bay Pictures Needed

2003-10-30 Thread MICRLASER


I need some engine bay pictures of a 66 small block car, non AC. I am redoing the engine compartment, wiring, and some other misc. things that need to be fixed on this car since someone else butchered it. I would prefer some pictures of a stock setup, but any small block V-8 will do. Email them directly to me.  Thanks!
 
Tom


Re: [Chevelle-list] bare metal (use metal prep or sand?)

2003-10-30 Thread MICRLASER



In a message dated 10/30/2003 4:17:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My chevelle is down to bare metal. I have striped & sanded it this summer in my garage. I want to prime it to seal it from moister. Should I use metal prep or not?Some say yes because of microscopic rust. Others like my nieghbor say no, "We never used it years ago, why do we need it?)I'm not to crazy about rinsing my bare metal with water (that what the directions for metal prep say to do)Anyone have any info on this?Thanks! 
Take a cloth with a bucket of water and wipe it off and dry it.  It will not make it rust right away.  I left both of my Chevelles in bare metal for months at a time while in the garage up on the rotisserie.  Go to a paint store and get some self etching primer/2 part epoxy primer.  This will seal it and keep the rust off it.
 
Tom


[Chevelle-list] bare metal (use metal prep or sand?)

2003-10-30 Thread KNUTSONChevelle
My chevelle is down to bare metal. I have striped & sanded it this summer in my garage. I want to prime it to seal it from moister. 
Should I use metal prep or not?
Some say yes because of microscopic rust. Others like my nieghbor say no, "We never used it years ago, why do we need it?)
I'm not to crazy about rinsing my bare metal with water (that what the directions for metal prep say to do)
Anyone have any info on this?
Thanks!


Re: [Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread Matthew Post

So does that make the X pipe a benefit by creating more back
pressure?  Also, I heard that the X pipe will have a different sound
than an H pipe.  Can anyone with an X pipe confirm that?
At 03:15 PM 10/30/2003 -0500, you wrote:
The
big difference is that the X pipe forces the gasses from both sides to
collide, whereas the H-pipe compensates for uneven pressure by allowing a
pass-through from the high-pressure side to the low-pressure side. If
your engine puts precisely the same amount of pressure into both sides,
it could be argued that the H pipe would not "do" anything at
all.

 

John Nasta

 

 

 



[Chevelle-list] H pipe vs. X pipe

2003-10-30 Thread John Nasta









The big difference
is that the X pipe forces the gasses from both sides to collide, whereas the
H-pipe compensates for uneven pressure by allowing a pass-through from the
high-pressure side to the low-pressure side. If your engine puts precisely the
same amount of pressure into both sides, it could be argued that the H pipe
would not "do" anything at all.

 

John Nasta

 

 

 








RE: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread Matthew Wooliever



 
Ditto 
that!  I had 30's on my SBC stroker motor and recently went to 50's.  
Still loud and mean, but not quite the open pipe sound of before.  
:)
 
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of John 
NastaSent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:22 PMTo: The 
Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 
series or 40 delta flow series

The 
biggest difference between the 30 and 40 series is the physical dimensions of 
the muffler itself. 50 series are the same physical size as the 30 series, but 
are quieter. I have 50s on a SBC and they sound great IMO. I am glad I didn’t 
get the louder ones.
 
John 
Nasta
 
 
 
-Original 
Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:52 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 
series or 40 delta flow series
 
on their 
system guide they recommend the 30 series for chevelle, GTO/lemans, buick 
gs and the  40 delta flow for a camaro, mustang, 
firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs I know have small 
blocks, my chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 40's on 
it.  How does it sound, flowmaster only gives SB examples on their web 
site. thanks. 


RE: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread Krister Meister

I don't have an alarm system, locking hood mechanism or cut off switch.
However,  when leaving the car unattended for any length of time, mall /
restaurant and it's not in eye sight - I have paranoid myself into taking
the coil wire with me.

Krister Meister
Bloomingdale, IL
'66 SS #'s matching





John wrote:

Actually, I was thinking that it's a great way to make it easy to steal the
car.



John Nasta







-Original Message-





Malibu65 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It's mounted
in an inconspicuous place under the dash but within arms reach. It goes
from
a good battery source, through the switch, right to the starter solenoid.


That's a good, cheap anti theft device too.  :-)))

BL




RE: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread Bill Lessenberry
John Nasta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:







Actually, I was thinking that it’s a great way to make it easy to steal the car.
 
John Nasta
 
 
 As long as you have to have the key to turn on the other components, it can work.  My father-in -law had to park in an out of the way place where he worked, & cars were always being broken into & stolen.  He put a switch under the dash on his Monte Carlo that disabled the ignition, and although the window was busted out twice, and the key tumbler popped out of the column, the car was never stolen.  He finally just stopped locking the car so the windows wouldn't be broken.  After he did that , no one bothered the old Monte again--I guess the thieves knew the car & went for easier pickings.
BL

Re: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread Malibu65
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:22:34PM -0500, John Nasta wrote:
> Actually, I was thinking that it’s a great way to make it easy to steal the
> car.
> 
> John Nasta

 Well, If the thief first goes under the hood they won't find a battery to
hot wire from... And I did tell you I have an electric fuel pump but I'll
stop there...

-ChuckK

> Malibu65 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> It's mounted
> in an inconspicuous place under the dash but within arms reach. It goes from
> a good battery source, through the switch, right to the starter solenoid.
> 
> That's a good, cheap anti theft device too.  :-)))
> BL



Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread LandMMilano



You think the X pipe is much better than the H 
pipe? or about the same?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:00 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 
  30 series or 40 delta flow series
  Hi Guys, I recently bought 
  original flows 40 series for my 383 equipped 65 elky. I have dyno max headers, 
  2 1/2" pipes, a Dr gas X pipe with outlets just after the rear wheels and it 
  sounds perfect. I had a set of Summit turbos on this car with the same 
  setup.too loud..lots of resonance, I replaced them with Dynomax super 
  turbostoo quiet...couldn`t even hear the rump of the camswitched to 
  the present 40`s expecting resonance, and was totally surprised that is is 
  minimal. The X pipe has a lot to do with it, I think the X pipe is an 
  investment well worth the money. I now have what I believe is the perfect 
  exhaust note. You can hear all the rump of the cam, excellent sound outside 
  the vehicle and just righjt inside. The best part is the 40`s are all over 
  ebay for about $45 delivered. just my $.02. Bob Myers, SD 



Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread Rjmmyers
Hi Guys,
 I recently bought original flows 40 series for my 383 equipped 65 elky. I have dyno max headers, 2 1/2" pipes, a Dr gas X pipe with outlets just after the rear wheels and it sounds perfect. I had a set of Summit turbos on this car with the same setup.too loud..lots of resonance, I replaced them with Dynomax super turbostoo quiet...couldn`t even hear the rump of the camswitched to the present 40`s expecting resonance, and was totally surprised that is is minimal. The X pipe has a lot to do with it, I think the X pipe is an investment well worth the money. I now have what I believe is the perfect exhaust note. You can hear all the rump of the cam, excellent sound outside the vehicle and just righjt inside. The best part is the 40`s are all over ebay for about $45 delivered. just my $.02. Bob Myers, SD 


Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread LandMMilano



yea, there is 4 inches diff. in the two 
sizes,   the motor is a stock 396 with hooker headers, the exhaust on 
it now is "original" and has a few holes in the pipes behind the mufflers.  
also the exhaust will run out the back to the bumper a full system.., no turn 
downs.  I will prob. stay with the 30's, buy the way I am looking at a 
 2.5in system. 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Nasta 
  
  To: The Chevelle Mailing List 
  Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:21 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 
  30 series or 40 delta flow series
  
  
  The 
  biggest difference between the 30 and 40 series is the physical dimensions of 
  the muffler itself. 50 series are the same physical size as the 30 series, but 
  are quieter. I have 50s on a SBC and they sound great IMO. I am glad I didn’t 
  get the louder ones.
   
  John 
  Nasta
   
   
   
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilanoSent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:52 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 
  series or 40 delta flow series
   
  on 
  their system guide they recommend the 30 series for chevelle, GTO/lemans, 
  buick gs and the  40 delta flow for a camaro, mustang, 
  firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs I know have small 
  blocks, my chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 40's on 
  it.  How does it sound, flowmaster only gives SB examples on their web 
  site. thanks. 


Re: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread Capt Crunch
Are you set on flowmasters? I personally don't car for them much... 
horsepower suckers. The 30's are supposedly their redesign "high 
Performance" line. I haven't heard them, but would be real interested to see 
how they do. The 40's series is a pretty loud 2 chamber. If you have an semi 
agressive BBC they will roar... but obviously sound is detirminant on many 
factors like combo, exhaust size, exhaust design, etc. The 50's series would 
be a bit more mellow... 70's series is mellower yet.

Hard to say what muff to choose not knowing your combo and personal tastes. 
My motors are usually pretty extreme (at least that is what the locals say 
LOL) and I grew out of the louder is better phase a long time ago. I still 
really like the Dynomax and the Hooker Mufflers. They are among the best in 
terms of preserving HP on a dyno and are cheaper then the flowmasters. Bang 
for the buck... I love the DynoMax Turbo muffs. Not obnoxiosly loud, but 
enough growl to let people know you are there :)

Not sure what size you want... but I have a set of 2 1/2 Rhino Mufflers 
lying around. Used for about 20 passes. They are similar to the flowmaster 
40's, but are better performance wise. They really growl nice on the 
throttle.

Mikey

From: "LandMMilano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Chevelle Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:51:46 -0600
on their system guide they recommend the 30 series for chevelle, 
GTO/lemans, buick gs and the  40 delta flow for a camaro, mustang, 
firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs I know have small blocks, my 
chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 40's on it.  How does it sound, 
flowmaster only gives SB examples on their web site. thanks.
_
Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with  MSN Messenger 
6.0.  Try it now FREE!  http://msnmessenger-download.com




RE: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread John Nasta









The biggest
difference between the 30 and 40 series is the physical dimensions of the
muffler itself. 50 series are the same physical size as the 30 series, but are
quieter. I have 50s on a SBC and they sound great IMO. I am glad I didn’t get
the louder ones.

 

John Nasta

 

 

 

-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of LandMMilano
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003
11:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list]
Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

 

on
their system guide they recommend the 30 series for chevelle, GTO/lemans, buick
gs and the  40 delta flow for a camaro, mustang,
firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs I know have small
blocks, my chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 40's on
it.  How does it sound, flowmaster only gives SB examples on their web
site. thanks. 








RE: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread John Nasta








Actually, I
was thinking that it’s a great way to make it easy to steal the car.

 

John Nasta

 

 

 

-Original
Message-





Malibu65
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 




It's mounted
in an inconspicuous place under the dash but within arms reach. It goes from
a good battery source, through the switch, right to the starter solenoid. 
 

That's a good, cheap anti theft device too.  :-)))

BL










RE: [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow serie s

2003-10-30 Thread Rozanski Joe (AP/EDC)



i run 
the sgl chamber flows and with 14:1 comp, solid roller they sound like thunder 
coming down the road.
heads 
just turn...

  -Original Message-From: LandMMilano 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 
  11:52 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  [Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow 
  series
  on their system guide they recommend the 30 
  series for chevelle, GTO/lemans, buick gs and the  40 delta flow for 
  a camaro, mustang, firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs 
  I know have small blocks, my chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 
  40's on it.  How does it sound, flowmaster only gives SB examples on 
  their web site. thanks. 


[Chevelle-list] Flowmaster's 30 series or 40 delta flow series

2003-10-30 Thread LandMMilano



on their system guide they recommend the 30 series 
for chevelle, GTO/lemans, buick gs and the  40 delta flow for a 
camaro, mustang, firebird.  Hmm, most of the camaro,mustangs I 
know have small blocks, my chevelle is a BB.  Does anyone have BB with 
40's on it.  How does it sound, flowmaster only gives SB examples on 
their web site. thanks. 


Re: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread Bill Lessenberry
Malibu65 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's mountedin an inconspicuous place under the dash but within arms reach. It goes froma good battery source, through the switch, right to the starter solenoid.  
That's a good, cheap anti theft device too.  :-)))
BL

Re: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread ANNEARTIE
way to go Chuck.


Re: [Chevelle-list] fun with cars

2003-10-30 Thread BlazerMan00
Holy Sh*t, I got in trouble watching it at work because I did'nt know what to expect. 
I darn near fell out of my chair laughing and had to show it to my boss and when he 
laughed it was OK. Good Video!!



RE: [Chevelle-list] fun with cars

2003-10-30 Thread Richard M. Pruett
Good one, John.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:42 PM
To: Chevelle List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] fun with cars



http://www.darefugees.com/steve/antena1.mpeg

John Nasta








Re: [Chevelle-list] Headlights

2003-10-30 Thread Dave Benjamin
I just had lots of fun trying to get the lights working in this Beaumont.
The main problems where bad ground and the high, low beam switch.

It sounds like you have a ground problems also. I don't think it is a switch
problem with yours.

Dave
Ingersoll,Ontario
My web site:   http://members.tripod.com/benj30/


- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Kiernan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:32 AM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headlights


>
> Symptom: On low beam, the right side doesnt light, only the left. On
> high beam, the highs come on, as well as both the low beams.
>
> Diagnosis?
>
> DK
> SF
>




Re: [Chevelle-list] Headlights

2003-10-30 Thread Chevelle292Wagon
In a message dated 10/30/2003 2:32:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Symptom: On low beam, the right side doesnt light, only the left. On
high beam, the highs come on, as well as both the low beams.


l assume you checked the connections and there's power to that terminal on the back of bulb:
Then that means the low beam portion of the bulb is burned out but high beam portion still works.
Means you need new bulb. Maybe two if other one is just as old.
GE halogen sealed beams are the way to go unless you need T3's for a restoration.

Pete Geurds
64 Chevelle(s)


Re: [Chevelle-list] Headlights

2003-10-30 Thread the . cat
Heya!

This used to happen to me. It turned out to be a combination of bad 
grounds at the headlights, as well as burnt connectors.

Buy a dozen 0.375" (check that, it might be different for stock 
lights.  That's 3/8") female spade terminals and some heatshrink, and 
replace the old connectors.  Clean the grounds as well. :-)

I also inserted relays and replaced all the wire with heavier gauge, 
as I went to 60w H4s. What a difference! I'd recommend it if you ever 
drive at nighttime, and don't need to keep your car totally original.

Hope this helps,
Dave.

Symptom: On low beam, the right side doesnt light, only the left. On
high beam, the highs come on, as well as both the low beams.
Diagnosis?

DK
SF
--
www.swingvictoria.com


[Chevelle-list] Headlights

2003-10-30 Thread Dennis Kiernan

Symptom: On low beam, the right side doesnt light, only the left. On
high beam, the highs come on, as well as both the low beams.

Diagnosis?

DK
SF



Re: [Chevelle-list] starter wiring

2003-10-30 Thread Malibu65

> Hi all,
>In regard to Ignition Switches and key switches. The ignition switch is 
> the electrical part and what some people call the key switch would actually
> be the key tumbler which is known as the ignition tumbler and keys. Just
> wanted to let you know so you don't order the wrong part at a store.
>  Ken

 Ken's right, I'm an electronics technician. I would call it a:
 Key enabled, four operation, rotary Switch, with spring return start function.
I couldn't begin to get the electrical assignments right. Like D P D T is
double pole double throw. The car switch does: Accessories, Off, Ignition On,
Start. As its four functions.

 What the list needs is the input from the experts like parts men and
mechanics. They know the right nomenclature. I can see getting all of the
right stuff to keep your car as original as possible.

 What I had done was after I had installed a trunk battery installation kit,
(from Mr Gasket) I found my starter was not engaging. (just like my on my 
'57 Chevy years ago) I had unpluged and cleaned the contacts on the bulkhead
connectors at the firewall and eliminated the neutral switch. (had removed the 
automatic and installed a M21) Soldered, used heat srink tubing, and wrapped
the splice. Still no starter engagement. So I got out the VOM multimeter and
did some resistance measurements. Checked grounds and then the Ignition Switch.
When I twisted the key, I found there was a few hundred ohms of resistance
where there should be just a few ohms. So instead of replacing the switch, I
added a spring return Single Pole Single Throw toggle switch. It's mounted
in an inconspicuous place under the dash but within arms reach. It goes from
a good battery source, through the switch, right to the starter solenoid. 
Now when I turn the key to on, you can hear the Carter rotary fuel pump in 
the back spin up, and just reach down and tug the toggle switch to start 
it up.
Fun

-ChuckK

---
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 1965 Chevelle Malibu 327 4 spd  3.73s  -ex 283 powerglide
 It's got my amateur radio call sign on the license plates!
---