Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
I know the El Camino frames are boxed but my Chevelle wagon isn't boxed, and I read somewhere that they weren't, so mine seemed normal. I don't know about the convertibles. Gene
RE: [Chevelle-list] wheel and tire advice
Are you sure you don't have a late model rear end (wider)? There's a fella on TC with a 65 Elky running 17x9.5 w/5.5" bs and 285x40x17 tires. Dale McIntosh > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Holtzman > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 9:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-list] wheel and tire advice > > > Hi, > > Finally got my '65 Malibu running but I'm in a quandary about > wheels and > tires. Anyone on the list with a '64 - '65 can predict what's coming > next. > > Right now I'm running 205-15s on 7 inch rims with 4" back > space. There's > no way these will hook up after I get the engine broken in > and stand on > it. The 205s have less than 1/2 inch clearance to the rear > fender well > even with the sheet metal being trimmed back. I would like to run at > least 235s if not wider. With 1.5" clearance on the inside I > can use a 5" > backspace. The problem is I can only find this much in an 8" > rim. This > will give 3" front space so I'll be back to what I have now > for outside > clearance..*if* the wider tread doesn't project beyond > the rim any > more than the 205s. Somehow I can't see this being the case > but I don't > know how much more they will project. > > I don't want to shorten the rear end if at all possible. Has > anyone out > there been able to solve this problem? > > -- > Bob Holtzman > "If you think you're getting free lunch, > ..check the price of the beer!" > > >
[Chevelle-list] wheel and tire advice
Hi, Finally got my '65 Malibu running but I'm in a quandary about wheels and tires. Anyone on the list with a '64 - '65 can predict what's coming next. Right now I'm running 205-15s on 7 inch rims with 4" back space. There's no way these will hook up after I get the engine broken in and stand on it. The 205s have less than 1/2 inch clearance to the rear fender well even with the sheet metal being trimmed back. I would like to run at least 235s if not wider. With 1.5" clearance on the inside I can use a 5" backspace. The problem is I can only find this much in an 8" rim. This will give 3" front space so I'll be back to what I have now for outside clearance..*if* the wider tread doesn't project beyond the rim any more than the 205s. Somehow I can't see this being the case but I don't know how much more they will project. I don't want to shorten the rear end if at all possible. Has anyone out there been able to solve this problem? -- Bob Holtzman "If you think you're getting free lunch, ..check the price of the beer!"
RE: [Chevelle-list] Keeping the El
Hi Len,
Where do I
find one of these old men with finished barns that they want to rent cheaply to
a total stranger? I have really tried to find a place for it.
John Nasta
-Original
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Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003
9:49 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Keeping
the El
John
I'm a native of Ithaca, NY. though I've been out here in Missouri a long time
now(20yrs). I'm very sure you could find someplace away from the city to store
your Elky. I can understand the city troubles; but in reality you don't want to
drive it, or keep it around the city . Store it cheaply in an old mans finished
barn, about 30-50 miles out of NYNY, then you'll find yourself making trips out
of the city, and driving it if and when you get the chance. Its the best
place in the world to go cruising, and in each small town people look up and
give you the high five when they see a hot looking ride. (try highway 20 west)
I had so much fun vacationing a drive back to upstate. The car was in primer
and some guy in St.Louis offered me 10k at a gas pump. My father once told me
the best way to see the country is to move to the city. He said he never spent
more time fishing the Salmon river then when he sold insurance in Syracuse many
many years ago. Just my 2 cents
Len Snow
"Chevelle"made
the old fashioned way..in the USA
Oh yeah?, well I passed
your ford yesterday ;-)
400 horses and flying low
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get it?
[Chevelle-list] Keeping the El
John
I'm a native of Ithaca, NY. though I've been out
here in Missouri a long time now(20yrs). I'm very sure you could find someplace
away from the city to store your Elky. I can understand the city troubles; but
in reality you don't want to drive it, or keep it around the city . Store it
cheaply in an old mans finished barn, about 30-50 miles out of NYNY, then you'll
find yourself making trips out of the city, and driving it if and when you get
the chance. Its the best place in the world to go cruising, and in each
small town people look up and give you the high five when they see a hot looking
ride. (try highway 20 west) I had so much fun vacationing a drive back to
upstate. The car was in primer and some guy in St.Louis offered me 10k at a gas
pump. My father once told me the best way to see the country is to move to the
city. He said he never spent more time fishing the Salmon river then when he
sold insurance in Syracuse many many years ago. Just my 2
cents
Len Snow
"Chevelle"made the old fashioned way..in the USA
Oh
yeah?, well I passed your ford yesterday ;-)
400 horses and flying low
:
>>...{radar
alert!}...,
,] ] ] ]
.>>>.. . >>>. . . >>>. . . . .
>>>>>vroom!!
get it?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
el camino- station wagon and convertible. all boxed
RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
Why not find an El camino frame? They are already boxed. I THINK(?) it will fit under a Chevelle/Malibu. Larry 72 El Camino -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:27 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame Matt, I've been thinking about doing that myself, I think it is only beneficial, but I would like hear other people's opinions about this matter. I have seen a website describing this some time ago, I think a guy who was on the list had it but I'm not 100% positive, maybe some of you other long-timers remember. Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Post Sent: 4. desember 2003 22:18 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame Hey everyone, Has anyone out there boxed a 2-door hardtop frame to make it as rigid as a convertible frame? I'm considering doing this while the body is off the frame of my '69. How beneficial do you think it would be? The car will not be raced, but I'm building it to handle the corners well and it will have some decent big block power. The thought is that it will handle a little better with less flex and it will be less likely to get stress cracks in the paint from engine torque. What do you guys think? Thanks, Matt
[Chevelle-list] Trying to find James Spradling
Does anyone on the list know anything about James Spradling of Signature Clock and Gauge. I've been trying to contact him for a week with no success. I have tried both his toll number and toll free number with no answer and no answering machine. Any help would be appreciated. Trooper - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt > Mike: > i think the basic currie/ moser 12 bolt is about 1500 >Larry (Z) >
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Mike: i think the basic currie/ moser 12 bolt is about 1500 Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
You got that right! : ) -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dave CorgillSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 2:30 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frameAt 10:27 AM 12/06/2003, you wrote: I totally agree that it is not necessary unless you are going to put the carthrough some extreme conditions like racing or off roading. Ðäññÿ ..That's why they make El Camino's that way, right Herb .
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Title: Message Around here,you can find a bare 68-72 housing for around $200. Worst come to worst,sell one of the desireable 12 bolts so you can build a narrowed unit. Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman But guys, I have two old styles and no newer styles. Mike - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh I agree with Clint. 65-67 rear ends are getting harder to find than the relatively common 68-72 models. As long as you're going to have it narrowed anyway, they don't charge by the inch. :*) Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:44 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Larry, I will definitely look into c clip eliminators, maybe even going with the Ford style retainers. By posing the question I am hoping someone will give me a good direction to accomplish this and make it easy to change to rear disc all at the same time. Any and all suggestions are appreciated. What I don't want is to spend the $2500. on a new Currie or Moser if I can do it for half as much with my existing 12 bolt. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt With all the work being done why not check and see about either Currie or Moser. I read an article last year about one of the twos (not sure which one) GM12 bolt and they narrowed it. they are set up without c clips. Larry (Z)
RE: [Chevelle-list] johnny on the spot
I'm not sure what kind of transmissions Keisler sells, but you may want to check with the list's own Mike Pell at 5speedtransmissions.com (he sells 6-speeds too). John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] johnny on the spot I just got an e-mail reply from Keisler from a request I sent for info on Oct 6, 2003. Took two months to thank me for my interest in one of their trannies. Wonder how long it would take to actually get one. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] johnny on the spot
John, When I get to that point Mike will get first shot at my money. Mike - Original Message - From: John Nasta To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:08 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] johnny on the spot I'm not sure what kind of transmissions Keisler sells, but you may want to check with the list's own Mike Pell at 5speedtransmissions.com (he sells 6-speeds too). John Nasta -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mike HollemanSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:01 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] johnny on the spot I just got an e-mail reply from Keisler from a request I sent for info on Oct 6, 2003. Took two months to thank me for my interest in one of their trannies. Wonder how long it would take to actually get one. Mike Holleman
[Chevelle-list] johnny on the spot
I just got an e-mail reply from Keisler from a request I sent for info on Oct 6, 2003. Took two months to thank me for my interest in one of their trannies. Wonder how long it would take to actually get one. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Title: Message But guys, I have two old styles and no newer styles. Mike - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt I agree with Clint. 65-67 rear ends are getting harder to find than the relatively common 68-72 models. As long as you're going to have it narrowed anyway, they don't charge by the inch. :*) Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:44 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
With all the work being done why not check and see about either Currie or Moser. I read an article last year about one of the twos (not sure which one) GM12 bolt and they narrowed it. they are set up without c clips. Larry (Z)
Re: [Chevelle-list] What cooler?
Aren't things going well enough in Norway considering all the oil you guys produce ;-) But I'm not impossible so I'll go for the aluminum cooler ;-) Whats the weather in Italy right now? It's awful here in Stockholm, cold, windy & snowing :-( BTW I'm upgrading my Internet connection & have to move the "Gearheads" page! The good news is that I'll get a 10mb connection & 50mb homepage space :-) More about that later! Best Regards - Original Message - From: Tigergutt To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] What cooler? Aluminum Pelle, we Norwegians are big exporters of aluminum hahaha Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pelle AnderssonSent: 6. desember 2003 14:38To: Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] What cooler? Aluminum or original cooler?? Any more members that wants to send some pix? C'mon guys & guyettes don't be so d..n modest ;-) Best regardsPelle Andersson--http://members.chello.se/gearheads/http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Title: Message I agree with Clint. 65-67 rear ends are getting harder to find than the relatively common 68-72 models. As long as you're going to have it narrowed anyway, they don't charge by the inch. :*) Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:44 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Any good drag race chassis shop can narrow that rear for you,at a reasonable price. If it were me,I think I would narrow one of the later rears so you could save the more rare earlier 12 bolt. Clint HooperH&H Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] Seating Material
At 11:56 AM 12/6/2003 -0500, you wrote: What material besides foam can be used to re-pad seats? Old newspapers?? :-)) Be sure that you get true seat foam & not just foam rubber. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] selling the El
Thanks herb. Right now my El Camino is covered in snow. I wish I could put in a leave chit and take a week off to go driving my car that is so beautiful it belongs on a magazine cover, but that's not how it is for me right now. Hopefully some other time. In the meantime, the car that I put so much time and money into is sitting in a friend's back yard, being subjected to the harshness of winter, and I haven't taken a week off in over three years. Time to make some changes. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Herb Lumpp Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:12 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] selling the El John, I hate to see you sell your Elky because I know you've invested a lot of time and money in to it. But spending money on storage for a car you can't use or enjoy doesn't make sense. Unfortunately I don't have any place for you to keep it (I live in a town house) but I'm sure once you get the business where you want it, you'll be in a better position to get another car and be able to enjoy it after you're done building it. It gotta suck right now, but you'll most likely be better off in the long run. Ya gotta do what ya gotta do! Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:17 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] selling the El There aren't any storage facilities anywhere near me where you could keep a car. Garages are extremely hard to find, and if you do find one, they go for about $200/month. So, I'd be looking at investing $2400/year just to have it sit in storage. I work 6 days a week if not 7. Last summer I didn't make it to any shows. The summer before that I made it to one. I recently took my Olds out of a garage because I hadn't driven it in 6 months. I've never driven the El Camino, except once in my friend Jack's back yard. I'm actually trying to sell both of my old cars so that I can continue to grow the business instead of just throwing thousands of dollars out the window every year on rented garages. I'll buy another one some day when I have a house and don't have to pay $200/month apiece to store them. John Nasta -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] selling the El John, What about some sorta storage facility? Theres a couple here that are just people that have a bunch of property, and store peoples cars, motorhomes, etcbut you could also go to a actual storage facilityJust a thought -Tim
Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
At 10:27 AM 12/06/2003, you wrote: I totally agree that it is not necessary unless you are going to put the car through some extreme conditions like racing or off roading. Ðäññÿ .. That's why they make El Camino's that way, right Herb .
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Thanks ;) Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. desember 2003 18:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt 60.50 1964-1967 Chevelle 62.50 1968-1972 Chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
60.50 1964-1967 Chevelle 62.50 1968-1972 Chevelle
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Title: Message Now that you are at you files Dale, would you be so kind to tell me the drum to drum with of a1968 rear and also hub to hub with up front ?? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale McIntosh Sent: 6. desember 2003 18:45 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt 68-72 is the wider one. Measurements vary as sources measure from different points but 1- to 1 1/2-inch per side is the accepted norm. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:58 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Mike, Isn’t so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider Sorry but I cant remember, Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: 6. desember 2003 02:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
RE: [Chevelle-list] What cooler?
Aluminum Pelle, we Norwegians are big exporters of aluminum hahaha Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pelle Andersson Sent: 6. desember 2003 14:38 To: Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] What cooler? Aluminum or original cooler?? Any more members that wants to send some pix? C'mon guys & guyettes don't be so d..n modest ;-) Best regards Pelle Andersson -- http://members.chello.se/gearheads/ http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Title: Message 68-72 is the wider one. Measurements vary as sources measure from different points but 1- to 1 1/2-inch per side is the accepted norm. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dale’s Place – My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff – Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 – 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles – Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TigerguttSent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:58 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Mike, Isn’t so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider Sorry but I cant remember, Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike HollemanSent: 6. desember 2003 02:45To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Just get a 68 elky and use one of those rears :o) Then I would order the axles and have the rear shortened, I have heard about someone having oil leak problems with c-clip eliminators so I would go with new FXXD ends on the tubes you have, a good welder should be able to get it straight and maybe a set of newer camaro rear discs or one of those street sets in the catalogs would be nice. I would do it in this way because I’m on budget and shipping a complete rear end from USA to Italy would cost more than the rear itself, if you are on a little bit bigger budget you could just order a new rear to the needed specs right out of a catalog :) Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: 6. desember 2003 15:32 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt The 68/72 is one inch wider. Plus I have two 12 bolts, one from a 65 and one from a 67. Mike - Original Message - From: Tigergutt To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Mike, Isn’t so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider Sorry but I cant remember, Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: 6. desember 2003 02:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
[Chevelle-list] Seating Material
What material besides foam can be used to re-pad seats? Craig 69SS
Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
I totally agree that it is not necessary unless you are going to put the car through some extreme conditions like racing or off roading. Ðäññÿ .. - Original Message - From: "Cecil "Steve" Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 6:41 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame : : Ok, I'm going to ask.. : : Why would a guy NEED to box a frame if he is just going to use his car for : street use? : : Doesn't boxing a frame make it more rigidand doesn't a frame need some : flexibility? : : I am in the middle of a "frame-off" so it would be really easy to do right : now. I am just not sure it's the right thing to do for a car that will : likely never go off road or to the track. : : Steve : : :
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
The 68/72 is one inch wider. Plus I have two 12 bolts, one from a 65 and one from a 67. Mike - Original Message - From: Tigergutt To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 4:58 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Mike, Isnt so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider Sorry but I cant remember, Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike HollemanSent: 6. desember 2003 02:45To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
Re: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Buddy, The guy who does all my machine work says,"no problem". He is a Moser dealer he has regular contact with them, so their input will be there. Before I do anything much I'm going up on a lift and dropping the coils to see if I have a problem with hitting the inner wells when collapsed. You know me, I can't be satisfied with just one project going on. The Tempest will come first. The trans is here, Ron Davis is at work, and then there is the Skylark. It is all apart now. So much work and so little time. Mike - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:50 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt > Hi Mike, > > Since I sold you my wheels, I kinda feel responsible to help you make them > fit! If you can't find anyone local to modify your 12 bolt, try Moser > Engineering. They're in Portland, Indiana so shipping shouldn't be too bad. > This link has a list of their shop services and prices... > > http://www.moserengineering.com/moser_interior/shopservices.htm > > BTW, I thought you were going to get the Tempest done before you start on > the Elky? You're as bad as I am! :) I can't wait to see your '65 with > those wheels! > > Herb > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 8:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt > > > Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need > to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a > good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 > bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 > and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips > and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. > Mike Holleman > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
> From: "Cecil \"Steve\" Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why would a guy NEED to box a frame if he is just going to use his car for > street use? > Doesn't boxing a frame make it more rigidand doesn't a frame need some > flexibility? > > I am in the middle of a "frame-off" so it would be really easy to do right > now. In a street car going to shows and cruise nights probably not. In a drag car it becomes more important ie:; subframe connectors for Camaros and Novas. Weren't Z-16s fitted with convertible frames? I think the stiff chassis is most impoertant if you're trying to build up a Chevelle to scare the Corvette guys with or go road racing.(where the roll cage is not just a safety measure) There's a few guys here much further ahead of me having done the Global West conversions that should maybe jump in here. A stiff frame allows the suspension to work as intended. Chevelles are something of a flexible flyer. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
[Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
Ok, I'm going to ask.. Why would a guy NEED to box a frame if he is just going to use his car for street use? Doesn't boxing a frame make it more rigidand doesn't a frame need some flexibility? I am in the middle of a "frame-off" so it would be really easy to do right now. I am just not sure it's the right thing to do for a car that will likely never go off road or to the track. Steve
[Chevelle-list] What cooler?
Aluminum or original cooler?? Any more members that wants to send some pix? C'mon guys & guyettes don't be so d..n modest ;-) Best regardsPelle Andersson--http://members.chello.se/gearheads/http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
RE: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
I thinh you are wrong on this HAAHAH I'm kidding, I dont think its a problem to press the ball joints in a powdercoated part, at those pressures needed I dont think thats a problem at all. On my front suspension I pressed in the ball joints first and then got them painted masking up the ball joint, in that way I didnt have to worry about scratches in the paint while playing around on the hydraulic press. I dont think its a good idea to install the balljoints before powdercoating the a-arms because when heated up the grease inside will get liquid and they will cause a mess in the oven and on your parts. BTW I wouldnt lube the parts before putting them together, just press them together and let them gall or whatewer, for sure it will be harder to get them out next time (in 20 years or so) but they will not fall out for a good word. Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. desember 2003 13:03 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Guess I tapped the knowledge base with this one. Many points well taken. I > think I'll let the spring tension and gravity do the work. Guess that's why > the lowers aren't riveted in? The part about powder coated and grief got my > attention. Sand contact area to bare metal? First off I've never tried to press fit parts in powdercoated components so this is speculation or logic, take your pick! All the powder coat I've seen is relatively thick compared to paint. If it's supposed to be a press fit than the added thickness of the powder coat would make it harder to fit the pieces. Press-fit usually requires clean parts and lightly lubed. Someone corrct me if you think I'm wrong on this. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame
I got one el-camino frame on hand up in Sweden but its longer between the wheels (longer wheelbase), not behind the gas tank. Then I found a 66 frame but that was totally different. Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp Sent: 6. desember 2003 04:32 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame If you go to the link below, the forth picture down the page shows a good view of my frame before it was cleaned. It's not really a box. It might be cheaper and easier to get an Elky frame and shorten it behind the gas tank (it's C channel) if you really want a boxed frame. http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/El_Camino_Body.htm Herb Lumpp -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Lessenberry Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:16 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Boxing a frame At 07:07 PM 12/4/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Yes, you are trying to turn the C into a box, but it's easier to do and more >solid with square stock or another C channel (facing the opposite way) than >with flat stock. > >John Nasta OK, that makes sense. Seems like it would add a little extra weight though. I also think that if you added a "X" between the frame rails behind the trans crossmember to in front of the kick up that would stiffen it even better than boxing. BL
RE: [Chevelle-list] Frameworks
Herb. I have been thinking about the jig thing, but since the corvette suspension is a bolt on deal (at least as much bolt on as all those other HDS bolt-on parts that you only need a tig-welder and $ 1m lathe to adapt)only needing brackets in the right places to fit. The tubes are only there to not make the front frame legs move around while measuring where to weld the brackets, I'll do as much measuring/welding as possible before removing the crossmember. Do you think those two tubes are capable of keeping things straight for the time I need to measure up whats needed to be measured without the crossmember ? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Herb Lumpp Sent: 6. desember 2003 04:37 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Frameworks Hi André, I'm not a frame builder by any means, but I have seen a few under construction. Most of them are built on a jig to ensure correct alignment of the pieces. Before you start cutting your stock frame apart, maybe you could build a jig to mount the frame so nothing moves when you start cutting. It's a lot of work now, but imagine how much work it will be if the frame ends up out of alignment after you're done installing the Corvette suspension! Food for thought. Herb Lumpp http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:45 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Frameworks Hi everyone, I'm now at that part of the project that splits men from the mice's, I have welded in two 2" (0,120" thick) tubes between the frame legs, one is under the cowl and one is where the radiator was supposed to be. My plan is now to cut out the original crossmember to adapt the corvette crossmember and parts, but I have kind of cold feet and doesnt know if its enough with those two tubes or if I have to weld in more stiffening tubes. Any framebuilders out there ?? or others that know anything about this ?? Thanks !! Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen
RE: [Chevelle-list] Trans cross member, 67 manual
Well that depends on the glove box :) Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: 5. desember 2003 00:36 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Trans cross member, 67 manual It's tough to fit a transmission into a glove box. -Original Message- The one for the glove box? graham wrote: > Does anyone have an extra one for sale maybe? 67SS, manual. > I just realized that I *may* need one of these ... ha! > > TIA, > -Graham.
Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] suspension rebuild
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Guess I tapped the knowledge base with this one. Many points well taken. I > think I'll let the spring tension and gravity do the work. Guess that's why > the lowers aren't riveted in? The part about powder coated and grief got my > attention. Sand contact area to bare metal? First off I've never tried to press fit parts in powdercoated components so this is speculation or logic, take your pick! All the powder coat I've seen is relatively thick compared to paint. If it's supposed to be a press fit than the added thickness of the powder coat would make it harder to fit the pieces. Press-fit usually requires clean parts and lightly lubed. Someone corrct me if you think I'm wrong on this. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
Re: [Chevelle-list] Sneak peak
Group purchase?? - Original Message - From: "Herb Lumpp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Sneak peak > Hi everyone, > > Just to cut down on some bandwidth I'm not going to reply to each response > to my post, but I do want to say "Thanks" to all of you for the kind words! > You guys have always said good things about my car and I never get tired of > hearing it - I really do appreciate it! > > The fact that Chuck did a color article on my car was great, I couldn't have > asked for anything more. But to top it all off, he puts my baby on the > cover - by itself and dead center - that was the best! > > Like any project that's never quite done, mine is still undergoing changes. > Thanks to Clint I was able to get a set of Baer brakes and saved myself $600 > by being part of a group purchase. I'm stepping up to 18" wheels and tires > (both ordered and should be in before Christmas), and I'm planning some > engine updates as well. Maybe if I make enough changes Chuck will want to > do an update! ;) > > And Sarge, if I was able to help your wife see the light, then I'll have to > say it was well worth it. There's nothing better than having your spouse > share your interests and truly understand the driving force behind all the > spending and the never ending wrench spinning. Speaking of which, my wife > and I have spent the last few weeks trying to decide which wheels will look > the best now that Mike has my Foose wheels. > > Again, thanks guys (and gals) and keep an eye on the newstand, hint, hint, > PHR. > > Herb Lumpp > http://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm > > > > >
RE: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt
Mike, Isn’t so that a 68/72 rear is two inches shorter than the 64/67 ones or was it two inches wider Sorry but I cant remember, Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Holleman Sent: 6. desember 2003 02:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Chevelle-list] narrowing a 12 bolt Anybody know of a good source of info on narrowing a stock 12 bolt? I need to bring my 12 bolt down about two inches total. If someone has access to a good article or report on this process I would appreciate the help. The 12 bolt is for my 65 Elky and I'm trying to fit some 17 x 10 inch wheels with 5 and 1/2 inches of backspacing. I would also like to eliminate the c clips and add rear disc in the process. Any guidance will be appreciated. Mike Holleman
