[Chevelle-list] Starter!?
Got my Powermaster 9000 Starter today! Anything to keep in mind? Best regards Pelle Andersson -- http://members.chello.se/gearheads/ http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
[Chevelle-list] Price tag on a 12-bolt rear?
What do u pay in the states for a factory restored/new 12-bolt rear axle? Best regards Pelle Andersson -- http://members.chello.se/gearheads/ http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
[Chevelle-list] rear gears
hi gang I've got a question or two regarding the gearing of my differential.I've got a 67 Malibu that had a 283 and a powerglide, I've pulled them and installed a 305 and a TH350. My question is this "what would you recommend for the gears in my rear end"? I'm looking to decrease my rpms on the long haul and increase my mileage.to the best of my knowledge my gears are stock. any help would be greatly appreciated it looks like the casting on the rear end is "3894938N" ? its a non posi 10 bolt stamped on the tube it looks like "CR1109B" or could be "cr11098" ? hope this helps Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnwhttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
Re: [Chevelle-list] Starter!?
yes, disconnect the hot cable from the battery, torque the bolts, dont over torque, and you may need a heat shield depending on your exhaust enjoy Bill Bradley 67 Malibu Edmond Oklahoma http://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnw http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/ - Original Message - From: Pelle Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Starter!? Got my Powermaster 9000 Starter today! Anything to keep in mind? Best regards Pelle Andersson -- http://members.chello.se/gearheads/ http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
Title: Message Bill, The "CR" code is for a 3.70 posi, 1109 is Nov 9, and B is Buffalo assembly. I'd suggest you look at http://www.chevellestuff.com/generic/rpm_calculator.htmand play with gear ratios to find what'll work in your highway speed ranges. If you know your tire size, you can play with ratios available and see what RPM's you'd be running at a given speed. Transmission type selection is moot since you're looking at a 1-to-1 ratio in high gear unless you want to toss in the variable of an O/D transmission. Being an automatic, you might want to allow 200-300 RPM for converter slippage as well. For example withall things being equal (assuming a regular 205x70x14 tire), 3.70's at 75 give you about 3700 RPMs while a 3.31 drops that to 3300. Swapping to an O/D (such as a 700-R4) and keeping your 3.70s drops your RPMs to 2600 in O/D at 75. I used this page quite a bit when I was deciding what rear tire sizes would work for me. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill BradleySent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:13 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] rear gears hi gang I've got a question or two regarding the gearing of my differential.I've got a 67 Malibu that had a 283 and a powerglide, I've pulled them and installed a 305 and a TH350. My question is this "what would you recommend for the gears in my rear end"? I'm looking to decrease my rpms on the long haul and increase my mileage.to the best of my knowledge my gears are stock. any help would be greatly appreciated it looks like the casting on the rear end is "3894938N" ? its a non posi 10 bolt stamped on the tube it looks like "CR1109B" or could be "cr11098" ? hope this helps Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnwhttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
Bill, I may not be much help but here is what I see. Highway performance between the 283/PG and 305/350 would be basically the same. Both are 1 to 1 in high gear. The code that counts is the one stamped on the axle tube. In 67 the CR is supposed to be 3.70 posi. That would be highly unlikely in a 283/PG car. Go back and look again real close. The first letter is gonna be a C, the second is critical in determining what you have. As far as a recommendation for a good highway gear, go 3.08. My 65 283/PG has that combo and does well at highway speeds. I'm taching around 2600 at 60 MPH. Keep in mind the the diff. may be setup different than it came from the factory, so the codes could be wrong. Good luck. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] rear gears hi gang I've got a question or two regarding the gearing of my differential.I've got a 67 Malibu that had a 283 and a powerglide, I've pulled them and installed a 305 and a TH350. My question is this "what would you recommend for the gears in my rear end"? I'm looking to decrease my rpms on the long haul and increase my mileage.to the best of my knowledge my gears are stock. any help would be greatly appreciated it looks like the casting on the rear end is "3894938N" ? its a non posi 10 bolt stamped on the tube it looks like "CR1109B" or could be "cr11098" ? hope this helps Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnwhttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
Title: Message Dale, Thanks for supplying the calculator link. That is one handy item. I have been wondering what kind of R's I'll be turning in the Tempest with the 421/700R4 with 3.55 gears and now I know. Thanks again. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: Dale McIntosh To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] rear gears Bill, The "CR" code is for a 3.70 posi, 1109 is Nov 9, and B is Buffalo assembly. I'd suggest you look at http://www.chevellestuff.com/generic/rpm_calculator.htmand play with gear ratios to find what'll work in your highway speed ranges. If you know your tire size, you can play with ratios available and see what RPM's you'd be running at a given speed. Transmission type selection is moot since you're looking at a 1-to-1 ratio in high gear unless you want to toss in the variable of an O/D transmission. Being an automatic, you might want to allow 200-300 RPM for converter slippage as well. For example withall things being equal (assuming a regular 205x70x14 tire), 3.70's at 75 give you about 3700 RPMs while a 3.31 drops that to 3300. Swapping to an O/D (such as a 700-R4) and keeping your 3.70s drops your RPMs to 2600 in O/D at 75. I used this page quite a bit when I was deciding what rear tire sizes would work for me. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill BradleySent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:13 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] rear gears hi gang I've got a question or two regarding the gearing of my differential.I've got a 67 Malibu that had a 283 and a powerglide, I've pulled them and installed a 305 and a TH350. My question is this "what would you recommend for the gears in my rear end"? I'm looking to decrease my rpms on the long haul and increase my mileage.to the best of my knowledge my gears are stock. any help would be greatly appreciated it looks like the casting on the rear end is "3894938N" ? its a non posi 10 bolt stamped on the tube it looks like "CR1109B" or could be "cr11098" ? hope this helps Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnwhttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
RE: [Chevelle-list] My combo on desktop dyno.
Brad. Just came home from the Christmas holidays so I'm here enjoying reading the list. Thanks a lot for all the info, the engine is not yet started and was just supposed to be a cheap one, that is arp studs, forged rods a milodon pan scrapers etc etc etc. I think I could get it a roller cam and keep the heads call it quit and start a new project or maybe the cam and some heads :) After that I'll start a new life with a new and bigger engine, maybe with two turbos. I already have a 10,7 compression all forged 355 with a solid roller (no specs on the cam :-( ), roller rockers, arp studs, performer rpm heads, intake and a holley 650 double pumper in my van (as for now to no use, I could easily explain that with just one picture haahah) so I wouldnt mind using a solid roller on the street... and then it looks just so manly to adjust valves haha :o) Well Brad, just wanted to thank you for all the info :) Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: 23. desember 2003 23:42 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] My combo on desktop dyno. Andre, Nothing wakes up a motor like a roller cam, except maybe a solid lifter cam. If you don't plan to drive all that much, you can get away with a solid lifter cam and annual (or longer) valve adjustments. If you want the drivability and not have to worry about adjusting valves every so often, you could go for a roller. Roller cams are a lot more expensive when you add in the retrofit lifters. Even a conservative roller cam like the XR264HR bumps up the torque. Want 450 lb-ft from 2000 to 4000 RPM? Plus you get another 20 HP. Want to get more aggressive? The XR288HR drops a bunch of torque (but still over 400 from 3000 to 5000 RPM), but knocks HP up to 417 @ 5,500 RPM. All of this with the same heads you have. Upgrade to a more modern head like the World S/R Torquer and you can buy more performance. The head manufacturers can recommend cams to match, and the cam manufacturers can recommends cams for various heads and your setup and needs. For a great street setup, your intake is just fine. At some point you might need some more carburetor, but you could still use the 600 up to maybe 450 HP, maybe before. If you stay in the lower RPM band, then you don't need the bigger carburetor. But heads and cam can really make a difference. I'm looking for my roller cam, all forged small block to be over 450 HP and 475 TQ. This is with upgraded everything. My real goal is more than 350 HP at the rear wheels. If you want a goal for next year, research the heads out there and decide on one, then choose the right cam for (your wallet) the head, your car, and your style of driving and do that swap next. Buy new head bolts of you do this. It should only take you a weekend. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Corvette | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tigergutt Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:09 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] My combo on desktop dyno. Brad, What do I have to do to have moore, heads, cam, intake, carb ??? Not that there are any money to be spent right now, I picked up my Lincoln sp-170 a new gas bottle and some welding equipment yesterday, but anyway ? Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Waller Sent: 18. desember 2003 23:01 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] My combo on desktop dyno. I had to make a few tweaks, but yes I think you will be right at 350 HP and 400 lb-ft torque. I used Dyno2000 and was able to set the engine to 355, 10.5:1, Summit-1104 cam, increased lift to 0.496, selected a dual plane manifold, 600CFM carburetor, small tube headers with mufflers, and I had to sub in the GM 462 head because I don't have a 292 in my dataset. I would assume that they are close, but I don't know. The 1.6:1 rockers will also change other cam specs a bit, but I did not modify duration and overlap by the few degrees you should get. Peak HP: 361 @ 5,000 RPM Peak TQ: 402 @ 4,000 RPM Here are the curves: http://ep.com/brad/ForumPix/andregraph.gif And the table: http://ep.com/brad/ForumPix/andretable.gif If you have flow numbers for your heads (or can find a flow file), get them to me and I'll rerun the simulation. I have old style SBC head flow files for the 441 (76 cc chamber), 462 (62 cc), and 882 (76 cc) heads. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) '66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs '67 Chevelle| ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
thanks Dale and Mike, you've helped me out quite a bit - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 1:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] rear gears hi gang I've got a question or two regarding the gearing of my differential.I've got a 67 Malibu that had a 283 and a powerglide, I've pulled them and installed a 305 and a TH350. My question is this "what would you recommend for the gears in my rear end"? I'm looking to decrease my rpms on the long haul and increase my mileage.to the best of my knowledge my gears are stock. any help would be greatly appreciated it looks like the casting on the rear end is "3894938N" ? its a non posi 10 bolt stamped on the tube it looks like "CR1109B" or could be "cr11098" ? hope this helps Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnwhttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
RE: [Chevelle-list] Price tag on a 12-bolt rear?
Ciao Pelle I dont know what they do in the states, but in Sweden you just call André in Italy and buy his 12bolt 3,73 posi axle one and have it shipped to a terminal in Stockholm. Guess you didnt want to buy mine but Moser ones are around $1600 to $1800 plus brakes Med Vennlig Hilsen/Kind Regards/Cordiali Saluti André Broe Jensen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pelle Andersson Sent: 29. desember 2003 20:23 To: Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Price tag on a 12-bolt rear? What do u pay in the states for a factory restored/new 12-bolt rear axle? Best regards Pelle Andersson -- http://members.chello.se/gearheads/ http://members.chello.se/gearheads/members/pelle/pelle.html Mob +46 70-396 42 13
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
ok, now that you've helped me past that hurdle, can anyone tell me the ring and pinion i have here in my lap from the numbers on it? (if so, damn you are good) 3910823 15-41 GM ring3910818 15-41 GM pinion dummy me forgot to write down what it was thanks again Bill
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
2.73 is the ratio if that is what you are asking - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears ok, now that you've helped me past that hurdle, can anyone tell me the ring and pinion i have here in my lap from the numbers on it? (if so, damn you are good) 3910823 15-41 GM ring3910818 15-41 GM pinion dummy me forgot to write down what it was thanks again Bill
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
39xx I believe is the GM part #s and15 teeth pinion/41 teeth ring. 41 divided by 15=2.7 - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears its not the original gears, is that from thr GM numbers? - Original Message - From: Zieg72 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears 2.73 is the ratio if that is what you are asking - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears ok, now that you've helped me past that hurdle, can anyone tell me the ring and pinion i have here in my lap from the numbers on it? (if so, damn you are good) 3910823 15-41 GM ring3910818 15-41 GM pinion dummy me forgot to write down what it was thanks again Bill
Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
thanks bud, i guess i just got lucky - Original Message - From: Zieg72 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears BTW great highway gear. - Original Message - From: Zieg72 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears 39xx I believe is the GM part #s and15 teeth pinion/41 teeth ring. 41 divided by 15=2.7 - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears its not the original gears, is that from thr GM numbers? - Original Message - From: Zieg72 To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears 2.73 is the ratio if that is what you are asking - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears ok, now that you've helped me past that hurdle, can anyone tell me the ring and pinion i have here in my lap from the numbers on it? (if so, damn you are good) 3910823 15-41 GM ring3910818 15-41 GM pinion dummy me forgot to write down what it was thanks again Bill
[Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51
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RE: [Chevelle-list] desktop DYNO - me too Brad! Merry X-Mas from DPeppin
Title: Message OK, here's your results. The biggest variable here is that I used a stock 441 casting flow file as I have no idea how different your flow is with the port and polish job. This could be a big difference, but you can look at this as a baseline, where your numbers should be better. Since you have the 1.6 rockers, I added the extra lift (0.501) and a two degrees more duration to guesstimate the effects of the rocker arms. The torque curve is flat as a table, which means this should be great on the street. You have basically 430 lb-ft of torque across the entire street driving band. HP: 366 @ 5000 RPM TQ: 437 @ 2500 RPM Graph: http://ep.com/brad/ForumPix/LenGraph.gif Table: http://ep.com/brad/ForumPix/LenTable.gif Your engine is not too far from a sim I did a while back for my Chevelle as a possible replacement if I ever need one. I ran a 400 block, and the biggest difference was I used the AFR190 head and a slightly more aggressive cam. My peak torque was the same, but it peaked at 4000 RPM, which gave me a higher HP peak (389 HP) at the expense of less bottom end torque (25 lb-ft less at 2000 RPM). I've also done some more wild combos with the 400 block, but they use roller cams and rev higher, meaning more expensive parts. But if you want 500HP/500TQ, you could do it with a single plane manifold, better heads, and a radical roller cam. Brad Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED])'66 Convertible | 327/dead | 4-speed | Wilwood Brakes | 245/45/16 BFGs'67 Chevelle | ex-SS396 | 355/700R4 | '79 F-Body Brakes -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diane PeppinSent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 9:31 AMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] desktop DYNO - me too Brad! Merry X-Mas from DPeppin Hey Brad Can you come up with anything for this combo? a 2 bolt main 1974 400 small block bored .030 over. TRW diamond top 9.5 to 1 compression pistons. The cam is a Comp cams 270H magnum cam(lift .470"). The 1974 441 casting heads were fitted with 2.02 intake and 1.90 TRW stainless valves, polished and ported. there is a set of 1.6 magnum roller rockers, eagle 1 5/8 headers hooked up to 2.5 inch exhaust through a set of Dynomax super turbos. Top this off with a edelbrock performer with a quadrajet. The ignition is an accel power coil HEI. Did I miss anything? This is pushing on a 350 turbo tranny and a 2.73 rear end. Thanks for your help! Len Merry Christmas to "the list" from Len Snow Diane Peppin.
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51
here we go again - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51 I CANNOT OPEN MIME FILES PLEASE CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION THANK YOU
Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51
Hey Dale..remember this thread line.. Johnnie Say's Greetings to the List and welcomes himself back!!! - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51 here we go again - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:33 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Re: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 51 I CANNOT OPEN MIME FILES PLEASE CANCEL MY SUBSCRIPTION THANK YOU
RE: [Chevelle-list] rear gears
Title: Message Granted that it's an odd choice of a 3.70 gear with a 283/glide combination and why someone would order it is decidedly different, both 3.55 and 3.70 are listed as optional 'Special' performance gears for everything from the 140hp L6 up to and including the L30 327/275 - see http://www.team67.com/67velle/power_teams.htm. But seeing that 3.70 was the lowest 10-bolt ratio offerered in '67, who knows what might have been going through the buyers mind when selecting options? Probably not too many of them ordered, that's for sure. Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 67SS/67 Elky Dales Place My 67 SS and 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles Team 67 1967 Chevelle/El Camino Specific Midwest Chevelles Midwest Chevelle Show Information -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike HollemanSent: Monday, December 29, 2003 3:11 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] rear gears Bill, I may not be much help but here is what I see. Highway performance between the 283/PG and 305/350 would be basically the same. Both are 1 to 1 in high gear. The code that counts is the one stamped on the axle tube. In 67 the CR is supposed to be 3.70 posi. That would be highly unlikely in a 283/PG car. Go back and look again real close. The first letter is gonna be a C, the second is critical in determining what you have. As far as a recommendation for a good highway gear, go 3.08. My 65 283/PG has that combo and does well at highway speeds. I'm taching around 2600 at 60 MPH. Keep in mind the the diff. may be setup different than it came from the factory, so the codes could be wrong. Good luck. Mike Holleman - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] rear gears hi gang I've got a question or two regarding the gearing of my differential.I've got a 67 Malibu that had a 283 and a powerglide, I've pulled them and installed a 305 and a TH350. My question is this "what would you recommend for the gears in my rear end"? I'm looking to decrease my rpms on the long haul and increase my mileage.to the best of my knowledge my gears are stock. any help would be greatly appreciated it looks like the casting on the rear end is "3894938N" ? its a non posi 10 bolt stamped on the tube it looks like "CR1109B" or could be "cr11098" ? hope this helps Bill Bradley67 MalibuEdmond Oklahomahttp://groups.msn.com/SpidrManspics/mycar.msnwhttp://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/chevellerestoration/
[Chevelle-list] '65 for sale
From today's Wisconsin State Journal: Chevy '65 Chevelle 2-door hardtop, needs restoration. Many parts. Extras. $2000. 608/873-6670. 873 is the Stoughton exchange...hey, my exchange is 873, too! ;^) Fortunately I have no room for another car or I'd be looking at living in it... =8^o Brad O.
