Re: [Chevelle-list] 502 for the 65
A 502,huh. Very cool! To hell with sleep,,,lol Clint Hooper H&H Custom,owner LT5 Registry Director http://www.LT5Registry.net/ ACES #1650 http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm
RE: [Chevelle-list] 502 for the 65
You're really going to sleep tonight? Think I'd just set up a patio chair in the garage and look :*) I'd think any electric fuel pump that'll maintain 7-9 psi would be sufficient. I'd also invest in an adjustable regulator like Holley or Summit has. Dale McIntosh I've stopped 2,487 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at http://www.cloudmark.com/spamnetsig/ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 65ss.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:40 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: [Chevelle-list] 502 for the 65 > > Well, I went and did it. I bought a 502ci, 450hp 550tq Crate > engine tonight. A guy had bought it to put in a '75 Camaro, > then lost interest. > It has never been run. The only thing done to the engine is > the addition of a high volume oil pump and a 7qt Miloden oil > pan. Here is the link to the conservative dyno numbers: > http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfparts/images/parts/pdf/12568778.pdf > > I think my '65 will be really fun with this engine *grin*. > It's the perfect sleeper setup. Black wrinkle valve covers > with no distinguising marks. I also bought the MSD billet > Distributor, timing control, and 6a Ignition system he had > for it (only the 6a was used, everything else new in the box). > I already have a 750 holley sitting on the shelf to feed fuel > to this bad boy. Now I need to research electric fuel pumps. > I know next to nothing about what gph and psi I need for > something like this. > > Now to try and mount this thing in the next few weeks. I > plan on painting > it orange, and modifying a set of headers to fit. I've been > told that there's some slight grinding that needs to be done > to the flanges to fit properly. > > Well, I'm going to try and go sleep tonight, which I doubt I can do. > > Later > Charles > www.65ss.com > > >
[Chevelle-list] 502 for the 65
Well, I went and did it. I bought a 502ci, 450hp 550tq Crate engine tonight. A guy had bought it to put in a '75 Camaro, then lost interest. It has never been run. The only thing done to the engine is the addition of a high volume oil pump and a 7qt Miloden oil pan. Here is the link to the conservative dyno numbers: http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfparts/images/parts/pdf/12568778.pdf I think my '65 will be really fun with this engine *grin*. It's the perfect sleeper setup. Black wrinkle valve covers with no distinguising marks. I also bought the MSD billet Distributor, timing control, and 6a Ignition system he had for it (only the 6a was used, everything else new in the box). I already have a 750 holley sitting on the shelf to feed fuel to this bad boy. Now I need to research electric fuel pumps. I know next to nothing about what gph and psi I need for something like this. Now to try and mount this thing in the next few weeks. I plan on painting it orange, and modifying a set of headers to fit. I've been told that there's some slight grinding that needs to be done to the flanges to fit properly. Well, I'm going to try and go sleep tonight, which I doubt I can do. Later Charles www.65ss.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] Alaska
Watcha need brother? Lemme know, and I'll try to answer the best I can. I can tell ya first off, that they are EXPENSIVE for non-residents. Kerry A. Fruhauf, SSgt, USAF Wing Information Assurance Office Nonsecure Voice: 552-1064 -Original Message- From: Ed Riggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:02 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Alaska Would one of the Chevelle maniacs from Alaska please e-mail me direct? I have some questions to ask regarding hunting/ licenses, etc. Thank you, Ed in San Francisco
[Chevelle-list] power steering pump pulley
Howdy fellas, I'm doing the 605 conversion on my car, and I'm having a clearance issue between the pump and the gear box. The motor is a 1971 small block with the early style pump.. what I need is.. A: a bracket that will mount the pump 1 1/2- 2 inches higher than it currently is or B: A smaller diameter pulley any ideas? Dan McIntoshPavement Scraping 1964 Impala SShttp://www.lowriderimpala.com
[Chevelle-list] who Ships rear seat?
Can you guys tell me where I can get some info on shipping a rear seat from a chevelle from Califorinia to Texas?
[Chevelle-list] Alaska
Would one of the Chevelle maniacs from Alaska please e-mail me direct? I have some questions to ask regarding hunting/ licenses, etc. Thank you, Ed in San Francisco
Fw: [Chevelle-list] Hei distributor...
- Original Message - From: "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fruhauf Kerry A SSgt 3 CS/SCBS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:41 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Hei distributor... > YeaI tried the tonge thing and I only came off the ground about 3 > inchesI figure I should at least lift 5"I better get that checked > out thenhahahaThanx Sarge > John >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Hei distributor...
John, Just about every GM factory service manual from 1975-80 has the HEI test procedure; do you know someone with a copy? The only copy I can make is a photocopy as I don't have a scanner, but if need be I can do so and drop it in the mailbox. Brad O. Hi everyoneI was wondering if anyone could tell me how to check if my hei coil is putting out the proper amount of voltage...Is there a test I can do..??I've looked for a website that could show me but have had no luck.Thanx...John Hi everyoneI was wondering if anyone could tell me how to check if my hei coil is putting out the proper amount of voltage...Is there a test I can do..??I've looked for a website that could show me but have had no luck.Thanx...John
RE: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65
Phil, I've tried both & couldn't tell much difference. Eventually both would level out about the same. The heater works great though! I would have thought the aluminum heads would help your SBC's cooling. I'm considering buying a set for my next BBC for that reason along with the weight savings. I'm also going to switch to electric fans. I think my fan was probably my weak link. I was running an older GM flex fan since I don't have clearance for a clutch fan. Dean Vandergriff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:58 AM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65 Dean: Just curious. What thermostat were you running at 190-225. A 180? Did you change to a 160 during the warmer months? I've got a built SB and have to switch back & forth. The 160 runs about 170 normal and around 210 if caught in traffic. The 180 will run around 190 and push 225+ in traffic. That makes me nervous. This is not a daily driver. But sometimes to shows & home you just get caught. It happens!! Just wondering what your experiences are since you mentioned cooling problems. Just a note-running Edelbrock aluminum heads on my SB. Always looking for advice & ideas re cooling. Thanks. Phil G. 65 SS ACES #555 MCC #36 TC #1766 VCCA LGC AMCA In a message dated 3/9/2004 5:57:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Charles, >I did this to my '65 ragtop. I bought a used '70 LS5 in 1997 & > drove it daily until a short time ago. I broke a valve spring & the > timing chain is getting way too loose. It's parked at the moment & > I'm looking at a rebuild but that's another story. >For motor mounts I just bought a set for a '66 big block from the > local AutoZone. (They couldn't find a listing for a '65 since the > Z16's are so scarce.) This sat on the small block frame mounts with no > problem. My original springs worked for about a month & then they > started settling. I've since put a full Hotchkis suspension under the > car to cure this. >My combination was fairly simple & drivability was great. I made > several long road trips with it. The only pitfall I ever ran into was > cooling. If you can, come up with a complete short water-pump setup. > Otherwise fan clearance is tight. I ran the long water pump because I > have everything for my AC & power steering & didn't want to change it. > With a new 4-row radiator my setup ran 190+ at all times. When I > stopped in a drive through or got caught in traffic it would shoot up > to 225 but always came back down again once I was moving. >Feel free to ask if I can answer anything else. > > Dean Vandergriff > > > -Original Message- > From: 65ss.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:28 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65 > > > Ok, if anyone read my post about compression, then everyone realizes > that I need to rebuild my poor 350. I think I found a big block > completely built within my budget. Since my car is missing the > original engine anyway, I figure a big block won't make it drop value. > Anyway... > > ...my question is this. What would I need to do for engine mounts to > put a big block in my '65? I've never did a sbc/bbc swap before. > Also, when I look up spring part numbers for the '65 it sometimes says > the same part number for both the sbc, and bbc engines. Will the > stock springs support a bbc? I plan on replacing them at a later date > when I upgrade with the Global West stuff, but would like to know if I > can get away with it for now. > > Also, if anyone has done this before in a 65, please feel > free to let me > know what pitfalls lie ahead. > > Thanks > Charles > > www.65ss.com Phil G. 65 SS
Re: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65
Hi Phil Wow.. I would think just the opposite to be the fact... with the lower temp Stat reaching open state at 160 deg. once the entire volume of coolant reaches the medium stat temp of 160 deg.. It would just continue to climb in temperature... and the 180 deg with it's delayed opening . would let the fluid have a chance to dissipate heat in the Radiator !! Being a early Chevy nut my First BB was in a 55 Chevy post care.. a 454 with a corvette tri power.. . it was not until I discarded the vertical flow radiator and went with a modern cross flow was I able to keep the big rat coool. My SB in my chevelles are not ground ponders warmed over 355's but HEAT is a problem ... Especially when caught in bumper to bumper Traffic...I run 4 core desert coolers modified after market repop 66 BB fan shrouds and LARGE fans Herb has the answer , with his trick set up. Big Aluminum radiator with dual electric fans.. SWEET ! But the real issue is to keep the fluid temp B low the State temp in the Radiator . a quest most of us early chevelle guys have to deal with not trying to be a wisy A** just surprised by your results.. Wayne ACES # 1556 TC #186 - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Chevelle Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65 > Dean: Just curious. What thermostat were you running at 190-225. A 180? Did you change to a 160 during the warmer months? I've got a built SB and have to switch back & forth. The 160 runs about 170 normal and around 210 if caught in traffic. The 180 will run around 190 and push 225+ in traffic. That makes me nervous. This is not a daily driver. But sometimes to shows & home you just get caught. It happens!! Just wondering what your experiences are since you mentioned cooling problems. Just a note-running Edelbrock aluminum heads on my SB. Always looking for advice & ideas re cooling. Thanks. > > Phil G. 65 SS ACES #555 MCC #36 TC #1766 VCCA LGC AMCA > > > In a message dated 3/9/2004 5:57:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > > > Charles, > >I did this to my '65 ragtop. I bought a used '70 LS5 in 1997 & > > drove it daily until a short time ago. I broke a valve spring & the > > timing chain is getting way too loose. It's parked at the moment & I'm > > looking at a rebuild but that's another story. > >For motor mounts I just bought a set for a '66 big block from > > the local AutoZone. (They couldn't find a listing for a '65 since the > > Z16's are so scarce.) This sat on the small block frame mounts with no > > problem. My original springs worked for about a month & then they > > started settling. I've since put a full Hotchkis suspension under the > > car to cure this. > >My combination was fairly simple & drivability was great. I > > made several long road trips with it. The only pitfall I ever ran into > > was cooling. If you can, come up with a complete short water-pump > > setup. Otherwise fan clearance is tight. I ran the long water pump > > because I have everything for my AC & power steering & didn't want to > > change it. With a new 4-row radiator my setup ran 190+ at all times. > > When I stopped in a drive through or got caught in traffic it would > > shoot up to 225 but always came back down again once I was moving. > >Feel free to ask if I can answer anything else. > > > > Dean Vandergriff > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: 65ss.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:28 PM > > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65 > > > > > > Ok, if anyone read my post about compression, then everyone realizes > > that I need to rebuild my poor 350. I think I found a big block > > completely built within my budget. Since my car is missing the original > > engine anyway, I figure a big block won't make it drop value. Anyway... > > > > ...my question is this. What would I need to do for engine mounts to > > put a big block in my '65? I've never did a sbc/bbc swap before. Also, > > when I look up spring part numbers for the '65 it sometimes says the > > same part number for both the sbc, and bbc engines. Will the stock > > springs support a bbc? I plan on replacing them at a later date when I > > upgrade with the Global West stuff, but would like to know if I can get > > away with it for now. > > > > Also, if anyone has done this before in a 65, please feel > > free to let me > > know what pitfalls lie ahead. > > > > Thanks > > Charles > > > > www.65ss.com > > Phil G. 65 SS > > >
Re: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65
The 454 in my 70 runs at 190 most of the time and if it's hot and humid like it typically is here in NJ during the summer, it will climb to 205 and hit 220 in traffic. Big Blocks are good up to 230, if it goes higher than that, then you worry. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65
Dean: Just curious. What thermostat were you running at 190-225. A 180? Did you change to a 160 during the warmer months? I've got a built SB and have to switch back & forth. The 160 runs about 170 normal and around 210 if caught in traffic. The 180 will run around 190 and push 225+ in traffic. That makes me nervous. This is not a daily driver. But sometimes to shows & home you just get caught. It happens!! Just wondering what your experiences are since you mentioned cooling problems. Just a note-running Edelbrock aluminum heads on my SB. Always looking for advice & ideas re cooling. Thanks. Phil G. 65 SS ACES #555 MCC #36 TC #1766 VCCA LGC AMCA In a message dated 3/9/2004 5:57:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Charles, >I did this to my '65 ragtop. I bought a used '70 LS5 in 1997 & > drove it daily until a short time ago. I broke a valve spring & the > timing chain is getting way too loose. It's parked at the moment & I'm > looking at a rebuild but that's another story. >For motor mounts I just bought a set for a '66 big block from > the local AutoZone. (They couldn't find a listing for a '65 since the > Z16's are so scarce.) This sat on the small block frame mounts with no > problem. My original springs worked for about a month & then they > started settling. I've since put a full Hotchkis suspension under the > car to cure this. >My combination was fairly simple & drivability was great. I > made several long road trips with it. The only pitfall I ever ran into > was cooling. If you can, come up with a complete short water-pump > setup. Otherwise fan clearance is tight. I ran the long water pump > because I have everything for my AC & power steering & didn't want to > change it. With a new 4-row radiator my setup ran 190+ at all times. > When I stopped in a drive through or got caught in traffic it would > shoot up to 225 but always came back down again once I was moving. >Feel free to ask if I can answer anything else. > > Dean Vandergriff > > > -Original Message- > From: 65ss.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:28 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: [Chevelle-list] Big Block in a '65 > > > Ok, if anyone read my post about compression, then everyone realizes > that I need to rebuild my poor 350. I think I found a big block > completely built within my budget. Since my car is missing the original > engine anyway, I figure a big block won't make it drop value. Anyway... > > ...my question is this. What would I need to do for engine mounts to > put a big block in my '65? I've never did a sbc/bbc swap before. Also, > when I look up spring part numbers for the '65 it sometimes says the > same part number for both the sbc, and bbc engines. Will the stock > springs support a bbc? I plan on replacing them at a later date when I > upgrade with the Global West stuff, but would like to know if I can get > away with it for now. > > Also, if anyone has done this before in a 65, please feel > free to let me > know what pitfalls lie ahead. > > Thanks > Charles > > www.65ss.com Phil G. 65 SS
