Re: [Chevelle-list] Favorite Muffler System?

2004-04-19 Thread bdo_chevelle
Are you after sound or performance?  Loud doesn't always equal good...

A very popular setup is a 2.5 system with the x-style crossover and Dynomax Super 
Turbo mufflers.  Muffler testing by Jim and Tom Hand has shown that Pontiacs perform 
extremely well with the Super Turbos.  I can't answer your question about headers but 
I can forward it to some people who can...

Brad O.



 My dad has a 1969 GTO with a 400 that has a mild cam in it.  Him and I were
 wondering which kinds of headers and mufflers sound real good on that car?
 
 Chad



Re: [Chevelle-list] New engine?

2004-04-19 Thread mike f
I have a 383 motor we built up and I chose to send my
Quadrajet to the carburetor shop in California. They
wanted to know the weight of my truck, the rear gear,
transmission, displacement and the Cam details. Can't
remember if they wanted to know about the Heads but
they are big valve World Products units with porting.
Customization was a great solution for me. Hope this
helps . 

Mike Fry
Valley View, Texas 

--- Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 All else being equal,I would stay with the Quadrajet
 for good fuel economy
 on a daily driver.
 Clint Hooper
 HH Custom,owner
 LT5 Registry Director
 http://www.LT5Registry.net/
 ACES #1650 





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Re: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring

2004-04-19 Thread RMilkiewicz



Try going to the manufacturer of 
the stereo equipment on the web. Many if not all have the owners manual on 
theirweb site that you can download an print. Just print the pages you 
need as these can be pretty big. You may have to search for awhile but I'm sure 
you'll find it. I have not heard anything good about the quality of the speakers 
in the kick panels. The panels I heard fit good.
Rich


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Crazy 
  Rusty 
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' 
  
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 6:55 
  PM
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Stereo 
  Wiring
  
  
  Whoever owned my car before me 
  installed a new stereo with a small amp under the passenger seat and a cd 
  changer in the back. I took out all the carpet so I could get ready for 
  the new stuff I am about to order and found that the wiring is a complete 
  mess. There are wires going everywhere, at least one of the wires has 
  three splices and four splits. Not sure why this was done but I am 
  planning on changing it.
  
  These wires (some big, some small) 
  are all running along the passenger side under the door sill plate. All 
  my other wires running to the back are in the factory spot (running through 
  some flat rubber runner) going front to back in the middle of the drivers 
  side. Should I route all my wires through that? I think I will 
  just mount the amp in the back, not sure why it was mounted up front to begin 
  with.
  
  I have seen kickpanels for sale 
  that have speakers but I haven’t seen any that have speakers and astro 
  ventilation. Anyone know where I could get 
  those?
  
  
  Once again, thank you for any 
  suggestions,
  JB


RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring

2004-04-19 Thread James Mountjoy
Running the speaker wires down the pass side keeps
them away from the power wires that run through the
factory harness.  The power wire (fuzed!) should run
along the driver side away from the speaker wire too.

Doing this helps keep the whining noise out of the
stereo.  It's not a requirement, but can definitely
prevent future headaches!

- James

--- Mike Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fuses in general should be placed as close to the
 power source as possible.
 In this case the
 closer to the battery the better.
 
   K0AZ
 Mike Sanders   18169 Highway 174
MT Vernon, MO   65712-9171
 Emergency Coordinator
   Lawrence County Missouri
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6 Meter DXCC #436 WAZ #27
   WAS #1094 WAC  WAJD  VUCC
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Dave Studly
   Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 9:04 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle
 Mailing List
   Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 
 
   Ditto what he said about powering the amp directly
 from the battery *with
 a fuse*.  Also, use a good heavy gauge wire for it
 (10-gauge or better if
 you can).
 
   I don't quite understand the explanation for
 running the wires down the
 passenger side though, as opposed to driver's.  I've
 always just gone the
 path of easiest-installation.  Damon, can you
 elaborate a little on the
 passenger side thing?
 
   The amp should have a main power input (from the
 battery) a ground, and a
 remote-power-on lead.  There should be a
 corresponding power lead from your
 head unit. (or a lead meant for a power antenna).  
 It's basically a
 relay -- a low-power signal from the head unit to
 turn the amp on, so that
 you're not directly switching the main power, which
 would require a
 heavy-duty switch.
 
   If the previous owner's amp was powering 4
 speakers, putting it under the
 passenger seat might not be a bad choice, since
 wires would have to be run
 back to the front for the front speakers, and also
 shorten the length of the
 main power lead and also the RCA cables with the
 pre-amp signal.  It might
 not be the best place for airflow to keep the amp
 cool, though.
 
   I'm no installer either, but I've wired up a few
 stereos with amps and
 have had good success.
 
   -Dave
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 9:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing
 List
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 
 
 If you are going to use an amp I have always
 been told that you must run
 the power wire from the battery (with a fuse) and
 the remote wire down the
 drivers side. The ground should be has short has
 possible. If you are
 running front speakers, the wires should be run down
 the passengers side.
 Doing this cuts down on engine noise through the
 speakers. I have a Sony
 radio, CD changer, and 2 amps with no engine noise.
 Has far has the
 kickpanel speakers, I can't help you there, but hope
 the rest is. I am not
 an installer but I have learned a few things since I
 got into car audio
 years back.
 
 Damon
 
 
 
 - Original Message Follows -
 From: Crazy Rusty
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:55:04 -0700
 
 
 
Whoever owned my car before me installed a
 new stereo with
a small amp under the passenger seat and a
 cd changer in
the back. I took out all the carpet so I
 could get ready
for the new stuff I am about to order and
 found that the
wiring is a complete mess. There are wires
 going
everywhere, at least one of the wires has
 three splices
and four splits. Not sure why this was done
 but I am
planning on changing it.
   
   
   
These wires (some big, some small) are all
 running along
the passenger side under the door sill
 plate. All my
other wires running to the back are in the
 factory spot
(running through some flat rubber runner)
 going front to
back in the middle of the drivers side.
 Should I route
all my wires through that? I think I will
 just mount the
amp in the back, not sure why it was mounted
 up front to
begin with.
   
   
   
I have seen kickpanels for sale that have
 speakers but I
haven't seen any that have speakers and
 astro ventilation.
Anyone know where I could get those?
   
   
   
   
   
Once again, thank you for any suggestions,
   
JB
   
   
 





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Re: Re: [Chevelle-list] Hot Start Problem

2004-04-19 Thread chevelle292wagon
I found this on an IH website.
Sounds like they used Delco starters.
 http://www.off-road.com/~jweed/starter.htm
The part about the heat resistant solenoid is interesting.
Wonder if it's true?


Pete Geurds
Douglassville, PA




RE: [Chevelle-list] re: emblem year

2004-04-19 Thread Matthew Post


Interestingly, the emblem on my 69 Malibu in that spot is in script
writing or whatever you'd call it. Not in block letters.
Weird.
-Matt
At 05:33 PM 4/16/2004 -0700, you wrote:
For
comparison. My 69 



http://www.crazyrusty.com/forsale_files/chevelle/1024x768/malibu.jpg



- JB




From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Nasta
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 1:14 PM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] re: emblem year



No, that's not the same. The letters are much closer together on yours.



http://www.oldcarnetwork.com/Merchant2/graphics/gmparts/PZ00057.jpg



Fits 1971-73 by the way. I still say the other one is a 69. I only posted the picture of the 70 emblem because they are very similar.



John Nasta

Old Car Network

http://oldcarnetwork.com





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Debra Rockwell
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 3:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Chevelle-list] re: emblem year



I have a 72, and that is the exact fender emblem on mine. I believe they also put these on 71's



Deb




Re: [Chevelle-list] Big block crank

2004-04-19 Thread MACSRUL
Hey Guys,

 I ordered one of those cranks from Howards. I'll let ya know what they're like
when I receive it.

 J. David Hardin
 67 Chevelle
 67 El Camino


Re: [Chevelle-list] Big block crank

2004-04-19 Thread Trooper
I bought one, two weeks ago. Had my machinist put a mic to it last week and
it measured fine. I ordered 2 more for me and 3 for him last Monday and got
them Thursday. These five also measured just fine. They are indeed 3856223
forged steel GM cranks and are brand new. For $99.95 shipping included they
are a steal. Sent one with a guy to swap meet in St. Louis last weekend and
got $225 for it. He said he could have sold another one for that if he had
it :)

Trooper

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Big block crank


 Hey Guys,

  I ordered one of those cranks from Howards. I'll let ya know what
 they're like
 when I receive it.

  J. David Hardin
  67 Chevelle
  67 El Camino





Re: [Chevelle-list] Big block crank

2004-04-19 Thread DON CHESSER
would one work on 454 thanks I need a book with the numbers


 [Original Message]
 From: Trooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 4/19/2004 4:19:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Big block crank

 I bought one, two weeks ago. Had my machinist put a mic to it last week
and
 it measured fine. I ordered 2 more for me and 3 for him last Monday and
got
 them Thursday. These five also measured just fine. They are indeed 3856223
 forged steel GM cranks and are brand new. For $99.95 shipping included
they
 are a steal. Sent one with a guy to swap meet in St. Louis last weekend
and
 got $225 for it. He said he could have sold another one for that if he had
 it :)

 Trooper

 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Big block crank


  Hey Guys,
 
   I ordered one of those cranks from Ho wards. I'll let ya know what
  they're like
  when I receive it.
 
   J. David Hardin
   67 Chevelle
   67 El Camino
 







RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring

2004-04-19 Thread Crazy Rusty
Has anyone found a place to get that factory runner?  I figured I would get
the same runner as on the driver side and run it down the passenger side for
the speaker wires...

Thanks for all the info!
JB

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Mountjoy
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:40 AM
To: The Chevelle Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring

Running the speaker wires down the pass side keeps
them away from the power wires that run through the
factory harness.  The power wire (fuzed!) should run
along the driver side away from the speaker wire too.

Doing this helps keep the whining noise out of the
stereo.  It's not a requirement, but can definitely
prevent future headaches!

- James

--- Mike Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fuses in general should be placed as close to the
 power source as possible.
 In this case the
 closer to the battery the better.
 
   K0AZ
 Mike Sanders   18169 Highway 174
MT Vernon, MO   65712-9171
 Emergency Coordinator
   Lawrence County Missouri
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6 Meter DXCC #436 WAZ #27
   WAS #1094 WAC  WAJD  VUCC
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Dave Studly
   Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 9:04 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle
 Mailing List
   Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 
 
   Ditto what he said about powering the amp directly
 from the battery *with
 a fuse*.  Also, use a good heavy gauge wire for it
 (10-gauge or better if
 you can).
 
   I don't quite understand the explanation for
 running the wires down the
 passenger side though, as opposed to driver's.  I've
 always just gone the
 path of easiest-installation.  Damon, can you
 elaborate a little on the
 passenger side thing?
 
   The amp should have a main power input (from the
 battery) a ground, and a
 remote-power-on lead.  There should be a
 corresponding power lead from your
 head unit. (or a lead meant for a power antenna).  
 It's basically a
 relay -- a low-power signal from the head unit to
 turn the amp on, so that
 you're not directly switching the main power, which
 would require a
 heavy-duty switch.
 
   If the previous owner's amp was powering 4
 speakers, putting it under the
 passenger seat might not be a bad choice, since
 wires would have to be run
 back to the front for the front speakers, and also
 shorten the length of the
 main power lead and also the RCA cables with the
 pre-amp signal.  It might
 not be the best place for airflow to keep the amp
 cool, though.
 
   I'm no installer either, but I've wired up a few
 stereos with amps and
 have had good success.
 
   -Dave
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 9:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing
 List
 Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 
 
 If you are going to use an amp I have always
 been told that you must run
 the power wire from the battery (with a fuse) and
 the remote wire down the
 drivers side. The ground should be has short has
 possible. If you are
 running front speakers, the wires should be run down
 the passengers side.
 Doing this cuts down on engine noise through the
 speakers. I have a Sony
 radio, CD changer, and 2 amps with no engine noise.
 Has far has the
 kickpanel speakers, I can't help you there, but hope
 the rest is. I am not
 an installer but I have learned a few things since I
 got into car audio
 years back.
 
 Damon
 
 
 
 - Original Message Follows -
 From: Crazy Rusty
 To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:55:04 -0700
 
 
 
Whoever owned my car before me installed a
 new stereo with
a small amp under the passenger seat and a
 cd changer in
the back. I took out all the carpet so I
 could get ready
for the new stuff I am about to order and
 found that the
wiring is a complete mess. There are wires
 going
everywhere, at least one of the wires has
 three splices
and four splits. Not sure why this was done
 but I am
planning on changing it.
   
   
   
These wires (some big, some small) are all
 running along
the passenger side under the door sill
 plate. All my
other wires running to the back are in the
 factory spot
(running through some flat rubber runner)
 going front to
back in the middle of the drivers side.
 Should I route
all my wires through that? I think I will
 just mount the
amp in the back, not sure why it was mounted
 up front to
begin with.
   
   
   
I have seen kickpanels for sale that have
 speakers but I
haven't seen any that have speakers and
 astro 

[Chevelle-list] Vinyl repair?

2004-04-19 Thread Dan Knutson

Just got my seats back from the uphostery shop again after returning them once because they didn't look correct.(lopsided, and listing were not pulled down near tight enough).
I'm very pleased with the seats now except one thing.
Where the bracket behind the seat back is attached to hold the sheet metal onto the seat. They cut a sqaure hole out to find the screw holes.
Now the bracket doesn't conseal the square hole. The sheetmetal should cover this area but,I'm fearfull the vinyl will start to tear from that area in time. What to do..
Any ideas?

RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring

2004-04-19 Thread James Mountjoy
I wouldn't recomend buying a second factory wire
harness to use because the wire used for power is not
good for audio.  It would not sound as good.  Depends
on how high-end your system is going to be though I
guess.

Doubt you will be able to find a factory style runner
unless you have one custom manufactured, but you could
make something that will work just as well.  You could
run two pair of flat speaker wire like monster cable
or Rockford Fosgate, they cut the width in about half
so it's less noticeable.

((But if you want to really flat, try DeCorp
http://www.decorp.com/product/audio.htm
I have no idea how well it would hold up in an auto
environment, but it's pretty cool wire either way.))

Personally, I have never had any problems running two
pair right along the door under the carpet.  Just make
sure it is secured around where the seat bolts in to
keep it from shifting and rubbing.

Good luck!
- James

--- Crazy Rusty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Has anyone found a place to get that factory runner?
  I figured I would get
 the same runner as on the driver side and run it
 down the passenger side for
 the speaker wires...
 
 Thanks for all the info!
 JB
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of James Mountjoy
 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 6:40 AM
 To: The Chevelle Mailing List;
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
 
 Running the speaker wires down the pass side keeps
 them away from the power wires that run through the
 factory harness.  The power wire (fuzed!) should run
 along the driver side away from the speaker wire
 too.
 
 Doing this helps keep the whining noise out of the
 stereo.  It's not a requirement, but can definitely
 prevent future headaches!
 
 - James
 
 --- Mike Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Fuses in general should be placed as close to the
  power source as possible.
  In this case the
  closer to the battery the better.
  
K0AZ
  Mike Sanders   18169 Highway 174
 MT Vernon, MO   65712-9171
  Emergency Coordinator
Lawrence County Missouri
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 6 Meter DXCC #436 WAZ #27
WAS #1094 WAC  WAJD  VUCC
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of Dave Studly
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 9:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle
  Mailing List
Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
  
  
Ditto what he said about powering the amp
 directly
  from the battery *with
  a fuse*.  Also, use a good heavy gauge wire for it
  (10-gauge or better if
  you can).
  
I don't quite understand the explanation for
  running the wires down the
  passenger side though, as opposed to driver's. 
 I've
  always just gone the
  path of easiest-installation.  Damon, can you
  elaborate a little on the
  passenger side thing?
  
The amp should have a main power input (from the
  battery) a ground, and a
  remote-power-on lead.  There should be a
  corresponding power lead from your
  head unit. (or a lead meant for a power antenna). 
 
  It's basically a
  relay -- a low-power signal from the head unit to
  turn the amp on, so that
  you're not directly switching the main power,
 which
  would require a
  heavy-duty switch.
  
If the previous owner's amp was powering 4
  speakers, putting it under the
  passenger seat might not be a bad choice, since
  wires would have to be run
  back to the front for the front speakers, and also
  shorten the length of the
  main power lead and also the RCA cables with the
  pre-amp signal.  It might
  not be the best place for airflow to keep the amp
  cool, though.
  
I'm no installer either, but I've wired up a few
  stereos with amps and
  have had good success.
  
-Dave
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 9:37 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing
  List
  Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
  
  
  If you are going to use an amp I have always
  been told that you must run
  the power wire from the battery (with a fuse) and
  the remote wire down the
  drivers side. The ground should be has short has
  possible. If you are
  running front speakers, the wires should be run
 down
  the passengers side.
  Doing this cuts down on engine noise through the
  speakers. I have a Sony
  radio, CD changer, and 2 amps with no engine
 noise.
  Has far has the
  kickpanel speakers, I can't help you there, but
 hope
  the rest is. I am not
  an installer but I have learned a few things since
 I
  got into car audio
  years back.
  
  Damon
  
  
  
  - Original Message Follows -
  From: Crazy Rusty
  To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'
  Subject: [Chevelle-list] Stereo Wiring
  Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:55:04 -0700
  
  
  
 Whoever